Southern Highlands Pub to Pub
- Details for 2008 on this thread on the CoolRunning messageboards
- 2007 thread is here
- 2006 thread is here
- The course will take us from the Jemmy Moss Hotel, Argyle St Moss Vale to the Friendly Inn Hotel in Kangaroo Valley via Meryla Pass, Morton National Park and Bendeela. It will be a mixture of quiet, undulating country roads through farmland, big hills, fire trails through the Morton NP, spectacular views from the top of the escarpment and down into the valley. I can almost taste the beer at the finish..... mmmmmmm
- The course at it stands is very doable by MTB - no bush bashing.
- The navigation will not be too difficult either.
Date/Time of next run
9:00am, Saturday 13th September 2008 - see here for details)
Jemmy Moss Hotel, Argyle St, Moss Vale.
Friendly Inn Hotel, Kangaroo Valley.
Water and toilet facilities are available in the park located in Argyle St near the railway station. Also plenty of shops for last minute luxuries nearby.
Toilets and showers available at the showground (not far from pub). Also food shops etc etc
And a beer on the verandah of the pub... mmmm
The car shuffle to Moss Vale via Macquarie Pass, Robertson and Kangaroo Valley from southern Sydney takes approx 3 hours. The drive to Moss Vale from southern Sydney via either Roberton or the Hume Hwy takes about 1hr 45min.
The drive from KV to MV takes approx 45min.
The start is within 300m of Moss Vale Railway stn for anyone considering rail travel.
50km-ish. It has been shown to be somewhat less than 50k using GPS (closer to 46k). Be aware also that there is one error on map 5. The finish line is approximately 1 km further along Moss Vale Road than is indicated but this discrepancy has been taken into account when measuring the overall distance.
None - take as long as you like
Broadly the course will be from the Jemmy Moss Hotel, Argyle St Moss Vale to the Friendly Inn Hotel in Kangaroo Valley via Meryla Pass, Morton National Park and Bendeela. Detailed maps and instructions will be provided on the day and are also available below for downloading and printing.
The course will be a mixture of quiet, undulating country roads through farmland, 4WD tracks through the Morton NP and down Meryla Pass, big hills and of course great scenery. Consider also the One Pub Option By starting at the top of Meryla Pass you would cut down the total distance to about 25k and still not miss the most spectacular scenery and the most challenging terrain on the course.
Maps & Instructions
There are 5 separate 1:25000 topo maps that you can download:
From the Jemmy Moss, left into Argyle and right into Arthur St, right into Throsby St and left into Yarrawa Rd and right into Meryla Rd. Follow Meryla Rd to Meryla Pass. Down the big hill along Griffins Fire Trail, cross over Crankeys Creek and continue to the ford on Yarrunga Creek. Cross the creek and you are now heading up and roughly south. Follow this fire trail to where it joins Jack's Corner Rd and follow this into KV.... sounds easy?
There are shops for supplies at Moss Vale but nothing between Moss Vale and Kangaroo Valley. You will need to carry your own everything. If you are planning to bring a support crew with food, drink and other luxuries there is car access along the course until you get to the lookout near Meryla Pass. Likewise car access is possible along Jack's Corner Rd from the other end. A good spot for your support crew to wait for you would be at the locked gate next to the Morton National Park sign on Jack's corner Rd.
Route Marking Summary
The route will not be marked.
- If you have read the introduction about Fat Ass runs and the waiver that you MUST sign and are still keen to run then email us to let us know you are coming. Please note that to ensure you don't miss any late breaking info read this website or the Fat Ass section of the CoolRunning Messageboards.
Full Monty - 2 Pubs
- Paul 5:01
- Liz 5:30 to be corrected
- Fleur 5:30 to be corrected
Only 1 Pub
- Chappo 2:30
- Amigo 3:55
- Judy ?
- Alex ?
2008 Report by Chappo
I ran the 'One Pub Option', finishing the 25kms in 2:37. I agree it was hot - and I was finished by 12.30pm! The car recorded 33 degrees along the road between Jacks Corner and the main road around 1pm.
I love the view from the top of Meryla Pass - absolutely fantastic. The quads, however, hated the descent from the top of Meryla Pass - 470m altitude in the first 4 kms and a distinct lack of hill training is not a great combination.. Well done to Paul, Fleur and Liz for doing the full monty. Chappo
2008 Report by Paul Every
It was a hot day for a 50km run, especially with a 9am start. I enjoyed Fleur and Liz's company for about 45 minutes, before dropping them on a slight downhill. I did wonder about the wisdom of leaving them, especially as we were having a good chuckle, exchanging stories about Trailwalker and Northface. Thanks ladies.
The descent off the escarpment in the shade of the rainforest was divine, and seemed to carry on for ever. Unfortunately the climb out of valley seemed to go on just as long, with the only relief being a long waist-deep wade across the river. How I just wanted to collapse there and then.
I eventually reached Kangaroo Valley Pub in 5:01. Unfortunately I couldn't hang around until Liz and Fleur came in (had to return to Sydney by 6pm to vote), but I was able to give them a hoot and cheer as I drove out of town. Sterling effort girls. You are a pair of tough chicks.
And thanks to Chappo and Amigo for the organisation of the event.
2008 Report by Fleur
Thanks Paul, Amigo, Judy and crew, Chappo and mostly to Liz (my hero) for hauling my ass to the KV pub yesterday. Crazy to believe we were sweltering when the rain is currently horizontal outside! Cheers again, Fleur
Full Monty - 2 Pubs
- Terry ?
- Rod The Hornet 4:32
- TallGeoff 4:32
- Owen 4:37
- Tim Turner 4:47
- Chappo 4:53
- Chooky 4:54
- Tracy 5:03
- Dawn 5:59
- Marie-Claire 5:59
Only 1 Pub
- Phil Clarke 2:52
- Lynda Van Dyk 3:09
- Amigo 3:15
- Doug Chapman 3:20
- Judy Young 3:25
- Josie ?
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2007 Report by ChookLegsMonkeyBoy
What a gorgeous day for a run! Perfect blue skies, a cool start, and a slight breeze which helped as the day progressed. I had a slight equipment malfunction at the start as my Camelbak bladder leaked all over the place, but the mishap wasn’t terminal, so I managed to swing the pack over the shoulders and set off after the main group. Managed to catch up with the group after a kilometer or so, and then settled into an easy rhythm at the back of the pack. The route took us through some lovely countryside, and I spent much of the next 20 or so kilometers having a wonderful chat with Chappo, Owen and Tracy. Views from the Meryla Road were really quite spectacular. Struggled a bit up the long hill along Griffins Fire Trail – walked up, and ran the flats and downhills. Somehow managed to miss the second water drop at Jacks Corner (don’t ask me how), which meant that I had to ration what I had left over for the rest of the run home. Jacks Corner Road was a bit of a struggle as well, with a seemingly never ending sequence of rolling hills. I took heart when I passed the power station, but the last couple of kilometers to the Friendly Inn were also seemingly infinite. The welcoming committee, followed by beer, roast beef roll, chips and, of course, the company at the end were very welcome and definitely made the run worthwhile after 46 km and 4 hours 54 min. Thanks especially to Lindsay for all the hard work organizing a fantastic run. Looking forward to the next one. Regards, ChookLegsMonkeyBoy
2007 Report by RodTheHornet
Great day for a fatass run. Many thanks to Lindsay for organising the day. Enjoyable run with great company along the way. Terry was with us early on before racing up some hills. Tim was cruising until Glasshouse caught up with him. Geoff did the full distance with me and Josie joined us for the last 25km. Pub to pub was about 4:32 for us. Best of all, the post race recovery area served cold beer. Got to love that. Cheers Rod
Full Monty - 2 Pubs
- Phillip Murphy 4:37
- Tim Turner 4:37
- Chris Horwood 4:54
- Janelle White 4:54
- Matt Chapman 5:15
- Tracy Collett 5:25
- Phillip Clarke 5:40
- Marie-Claire Kurt 5:40
- Louis Da Fly 5:40
Only 1 Pub
- Doug Chapman
- Lindsay Young 3:25
- Jan Herrmann 4:05
- Gabi Herrmann 4:05
Chappo's Report 2006
We left Sydney in the early hours to meet Amigo at Kangaroo Valley. Arriving a little after seven, the bakery was a wonderful start to the morning. At half-seven in the valley, the heat was already a little concerning. When Amigo arrived, we dumped clothes for after the race in his car and headed to the start at the Jemmy Moss hotel, Moss Vale.
After meeting the other runners and a pit stop, at nine, we set off, the group of nine runners quickly splitting into two. Tim and Spud lead the charge, with the other seven runners running generally close together.
The first 8km were flat and on relatively major roads, but the cars generally slowed down for the motley bunch of runners. Max Powditch of Fitzroy Falls Trail Marathon fame was one driver who wished the runners well as he drove past.
After getting off the main drag and onto Meryla Road, the scenery changed to rolling hills with more coverage. We ran along and enjoyed the scenery and huge houses – some serious invest occurs in these hills!!
At the half marathon mark was the first drink stop – a welcome relief given the increasing heat and lack of cloud cover. Then we came to Meryla Pass…
The view was nothing short of spectacular, leading you into a false sense of security that this would be a fantastic run. Then the descent began…. Down and down, twisting left and right, 500m descent in 5 ks, by the time I got to the bottom, my legs were feeling fatigued and I had accepted that it was going to be a long way home to the Friendly Hotel.
In the next two to three kays I crossed two creeks, the second wading through and fighting the temptation to take a dip in the cool water. In hindsight I wish I had.
The climb out of the valley was unexpected – wasn’t this a downhill run? By the top of the climb, I knew I was in trouble. The heat was increasing, there was no breeze and I could feel the lack of water affecting me.
Getting to the drink stop at Jacks Corner I was not in a good state. I sat down for a rest and drank the best of two litres of water to brace myself for the last ten to twelve kilometres. And off I set.
The run turned into a jog, the jog into a jog then walk, and then simply into a walk. I struggled all the way back to the Friendly Hotel, very dehydrated, and rewarded myself with a schooner of water, then another, then another… etc
Looking back, it is a beautiful and challenging run, definitely one for a person of the offroad/fatass ilk. It was great to meet other Fatassers and enjoy a day in the Southern Highlands. Whilst the score is definitely Meryla 1 - Chappo 0, I look forward to doing this one again in cooler weather and with more water!!
Last but not least, thanks to Amigo for organising the run!! File:Example.jpg