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[Yoyos]

Hi Sloth, thanks for that.  Yes, I realise that marathon training and 10km training are pretty different, and I have been making sure that I get out and just go running as well as training for football, and I have been concentrating on getting in a long run and some marathon pace runs.  Thanks for your advice!

[Michael1]

Yoyos, on Apr 13 2010, 10:40 AM, said:

Hi Sloth, thanks for that.  Yes, I realise that marathon training and 10km training are pretty different, and I have been making sure that I get out and just go running as well as training for football, and I have been concentrating on getting in a long run and some marathon pace runs.  Thanks for your advice!

Actually the latter phases of a marathon training plan are usually identical to a 10k plan.

[hockeyrun]

Just came across this thread and I think I pipped hockeyrunner in joining the forums so will claim the name isn't a copy!!

I'm currently playing hockey at a reasonable level in Vic and have spoken often with people about the benefits/negatives of training and games to specific running training.  I can usually manage a 20-25km run on a Sunday but not at the pace hockeyrunner can average, although I have a similar 5k time by the look of it, I'm nowhere near 35 min for 10k.

Thread is a little old, but super interested to see how you have gone with it?

Agree with Hawthorn, cracking thread!

[Phoenix]

I also play hockey and the distance running training aids in the stamina for a long game.  I have recently started 5km runs in full hockey gear and find this is getting me to a new level, though have stopped carrying the skates with me too.

Am going to do hobart this year and am starting my training by acclimatising to the extreme cold and elevation first up.  Will also have to plan to get some local currency to pay for water from the hawkers on the way.

[Bellthorpe]

Skates? Are you two guys talking about the same variety of hockey (field, ice)?

[hockeyrun]

Yeah I was definitely talking about field hockey

[Acey]

Is anyone still watching this thread? Oh well..
I wonder if Hockeyrun made his goal of 35min for the 10k. That is a really good time! Wonder if I could ever run that fast?
I have just run my first sub 40min 10k and feel on top of the world. It was part of a 12k event and I went through 10k in 39:30 which is quite a bit faster than my previous runs at that distance. I have only been running for 2 years and am in my late 30s. I think the thing that made the difference for me was doing 800m intervals with a jog recovery for the remaining 200m of the kilometer. I noticed that my comfortable running speed was increased from about 4:20/km to about 4:05/km. I now feel that I can run under 4 minute ks for about an hour. I would really like to continue to improve on this time and wonder if longer intervals of about 1km -1.5km would be more beneficial. My main goals for next year are:
Run 10kms under 38mins
Run Half mara under 85mins
Run A mara under 3hrs
Any advice on effective training techniques gratefully accepted.

Edited by Acey, 27 November 2011 - 04:34 PM.

[Tony123]

Acey, on 27 November 2011 - 04:25 PM, said:

Is anyone still watching this thread? Oh well..
I wonder if Hockeyrun made his goal of 35min for the 10k. That is a really good time! Wonder if I could ever run that fast?
I have just run my first sub 40min 10k and feel on top of the world. It was part of a 12k event and I went through 10k in 39:30 which is quite a bit faster than my previous runs at that distance. I have only been running for 2 years and am in my late 30s. I think the thing that made the difference for me was doing 800m intervals with a jog recovery for the remaining 200m of the kilometer. I noticed that my comfortable running speed was increased from about 4:20/km to about 4:05/km. I now feel that I can run under 4 minute ks for about an hour. I would really like to continue to improve on this time and wonder if longer intervals of about 1km -1.5km would be more beneficial. My main goals for next year are:
Run 10kms under 38mins
Run Half mara under 85mins
Run A mara under 3hrs
Any advice on effective training techniques gratefully accepted.

There are so many options for running reps, intervals etc but one that I have done is 6 x 1km with 60sec standing recovery.  Try to run them at around your 5km pace.  If this is too easy then run them quicker.  

The other bit of advice I will offer, is try and find a group to run with and to do your speed work with.  You will get a lot more out of your sessions if you can do it with a group.

[Acey]

Tony123, on 27 November 2011 - 06:22 PM, said:

There are so many options for running reps, intervals etc but one that I have done is 6 x 1km with 60sec standing recovery.  Try to run them at around your 5km pace.  If this is too easy then run them quicker.  

The other bit of advice I will offer, is try and find a group to run with and to do your speed work with.  You will get a lot more out of your sessions if you can do it with a group.

Thanks for the advice. The 1k intervals sound good and I'll try them out this week. I have a question. When people say 5km pace, does that mean the pace they can run their fastest 5km or the pace that they can run 5km comfortably?
Cheers

[AndyP]

Fastest 5k pace, as in your race pace.