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[chilliman]

OOareya, on Mar 29 2010, 06:05 PM, said:

So how do you change the time then?

All you can do is set DST to "YES" for this week, then either back to "Auto" next Sunday or "NO".

Menu, Settings, Time, DST  and if you use Time2 there is a Time2 DST setting as well.


The time itself is set from the Satellites, and display dependent on time zone set. Pretty cool having a wrist watch with the accuracy of an atomic clock isn't ?

Ed: Sp

Edited by chilliman, 10 April 2010 - 12:18 PM.

[DontStop]

One of the contact points on my 405 is starting to corrode - most likely because of sweat I'd guess. Is there a better way of sorting this out other than just getting a pin and scratching the crap away? It's making it hard to recharge it sometimes.

[chilliman]

DontStop, on Apr 13 2010, 05:13 PM, said:

One of the contact points on my 405 is starting to corrode - most likely because of sweat I'd guess. Is there a better way of sorting this out other than just getting a pin and scratching the crap away? It's making it hard to recharge it sometimes.

I wouldn't suggest scratching, you may just make it worse in the long term. I have used a cotton bud with electronic cleaning solvent once or twice, but if you don't have that or isopropyl alcohol then id suggest maybe a cotton bud with a bit of metho or maybe dab on a tiny bit of WD40, just on the contacts, not the plastic of the watch. Edit: even polishing the contacts with the base of a match may do the trick.

Mine's almost 2yrs old - no issues, and I have been known to turn my camelbak straps white on ultras with salt deposits.

Edited by chilliman, 14 April 2010 - 12:48 PM.

[DontStop]

thanks chilli!

[iRonnie]

The other day i loaned my Garmin 405 to mate.  When he was out running it went into the compass mode for  some reason.  Anyway, he got it back in mode again but, when I went for my run, it was not recording the distance as I moved.  It only recorded five k distances.  The problem is I can't see without my reading glasses to reset it, so spent a consideratble  time mucking around with it out on the trails before giving up.

Now we come to the purpose of this post.  You see I had  a dream that night.   In that dream I missed the start  of the C2S.  As I rushed to join the race, I was removing my clothing as I ran along (I had running gear on underneath).  Anyway, I put my leather jacket on a maniquen that was in a shop window because I figured no one would take it (seemed logical in the dream).  Needless to say, I re-adjusted my goal  to get under 55mins so I wouldn't lose my preferred start.

Anyway, I finished and my mate was waitng at the finish.  He asked me what time I had run and when I looked at my watch I couldn't see the numbers.  This was very frustrating because I wanted to know if I had made the time.  Indeed, my sweat was dripping onto the watch and dissolving the numbers which were raised print and like braille.   The thing is my watch was a chocolate biscuit.  

My Garmin is sending me further around the bend.  Tip. Leave any adjustments until you get home.

Edited by iRonnie, 19 April 2010 - 12:57 PM.

[Jonnoo]

Just got my new 405cx on Saturday, and took it out for its first trial on Sunday.  Absolutely fantastic.  My 5.8km course turned out to be 5.79km.  Did 3 laps and each one was virtually dead on 5.79km.  All those years of short changing myself.  TBH, pleasantly suprised with the accuracy.  Will spend the next few months fine tuning it and sorting out whether Training Centre or SportsTrack suits me better.  

Also now I know where all the 1km beeps come from during a race.   I am sure that can be silenced on mine!

Does anyone tape up the contact points or just leave them be and keep an eye on the corrosion levels?

Edited by Jonnoo, 19 April 2010 - 01:17 PM.

[Michael1]

Jonnoo, on Apr 19 2010, 01:10 PM, said:

Just got my new 405cx on Saturday, and took it out for its first trial on Sunday.  Absolutely fantastic.  My 5.8km course turned out to be 5.79km.  Did 3 laps and each one was virtually dead on 5.79km.  All those years of short changing myself.  TBH, pleasantly suprised with the accuracy.  Will spend the next few months fine tuning it and sorting out whether Training Centre or SportsTrack suits me better.

5.79km in Training Centre or SportTracks? My understanding is they vary slightly due to different algorithms. Not sure which one is more accurate though.

[Jonnoo]

Michael1, on Apr 19 2010, 01:46 PM, said:

5.79km in Training Centre or SportTracks? My understanding is they vary slightly due to different algorithms. Not sure which one is more accurate though.

that was directly off the watch, which Training Centre then agreed with.   Just checked sportTracks - and that was slightly less, 5.78km.  Interesting, didn't realise they were different.  Overall distance was 30m shorter with the Sporttracks - not enough to worry about over 17 odd kms.

[Knackered]

For some reason my 405cx has recorded a run that I did today as being sometime yesterday afternoon. the time on the watch and date looks fine, but when I loaded the run into garmin connect it showed up as yesterday's run. I checked history in the watch itself, and same thing - yesterday's run.

I'm pretty new to this watch, its only a few weeks old, but this is the first time I've had this error. Is anyone able to offer any pointers? Am I able to correct it in garmin connect - right now it looks like I did two runs and a ride yesterday - pretty good effort eh!

Cheers

[KeithE]

Hi All ...
I am looking at getting a Garmin watch ...
Either the 310xt or the 405cx ...
Just couple of queries...
1. Can they be used as everyday watches?
2. When out on a run, do they ever lose the GPS single and leave you without accurate report data?

Also would love to get some input on which is the better of the two..

Thanks,

Keith

[Rafferty]

Quote

1. Can they be used as everyday watches?

The 405, probably - the new 110, definitely.

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When out on a run, do they ever lose the GPS single and leave you without accurate report data?

Had mine since December and hasn't yet ever lost GPS signal.

Edited by Rafferty, 02 May 2010 - 09:17 PM.

[DontStop]

KeithE, on May 2 2010, 08:44 PM, said:

Hi All ...
I am looking at getting a Garmin watch ...
Either the 310xt or the 405cx ...
Just couple of queries...
1. Can they be used as everyday watches?
2. When out on a run, do they ever lose the GPS single and leave you without accurate report data?

Also would love to get some input on which is the better of the two..

Thanks,

Keith

You could wear the 405 as a regular watch, but I don't know why you'd want to. No way for the 310 unless you're going for Robocop Chic.

Haven't lost signal on my 405 (had it six months)

Which is better? I'd say they're both as good as the other, just different. You need to have a play with them both and decide which one suits you better. 405 is a bit smaller and lighter and more watch-like in appearance. Comes with velcro strap option if you've got a small wrist. 310 is multisport so you can swim with it, and the battery lasts longer.

[climax]

I put my 405 on charge a few nights ago as the battery was only on about 12%. Grabbed it the next morning b4 run only to notice that the screen was blank. Thinking I must have forgotton to turn the charger on at the power point, I put it back on charge. Once I noticed the "charging" signal come up, I left for my run (feeling quite naked too without my 405 ). Upon returning, I checked the watch again and was very dissapointed to find the screen blank again. I borrowed a mate's charger and still no luck. I have had the 405 for about 19months. Has anyone else experienced similar problems?

[chilliman]

climax, on May 10 2010, 07:01 PM, said:

Upon returning, I checked the watch again and was very dissapointed to find the screen blank again.

Even though it said charging when you left, you may have dirty contacts that caused it not to continue charging.  
What are the 2 contacts like on the watch ?
Try and buff them gently with the bottom of a match, and clean any gunk off them. They should be silver looking, not brown etc.

Try again and note if the % actually increases the longer you leave it attached to the charger. Will it get to 100% is the next question ?

If it appears to charge but still has a blank screen, another thought is to try resetting the watch. Ie hold both buttons in until the watch beeps and then let go.

If all else fails the battery inside may have died, have you noticed a reduced length of total time when using GPS between charges as of late ?

Mine is probably about the same age, I only get about 6.5hrs out of a full charge now. Once it dies eventually i'll rip it apart and explore replacing the battery. (I wouldn't advise this if you intend on exchanging your unit with a Garmin change over).

Edited by chilliman, 10 May 2010 - 10:39 PM.

[WetWeek]

chilliman, on May 10 2010, 09:10 PM, said:

..... Once it dies eventually i'll rip it apart and explore replacing the battery. (I wouldn't advise this if you intend on exchanging your unit with a Garmin change over).

Are the batteries not replaceable on these things?  I assumed it would be no more difficult to replace the battery than in a std watch.

[chilliman]

WetWeek, on May 10 2010, 09:25 PM, said:

Are the batteries not replaceable on these things?  I assumed it would be no more difficult to replace the battery than in a std watch.

Not normally user replaceable, just like an ipod, not that they can't be changed either if you have the correct tools and procedures.

Like all rechargeable batteries, they do have a finite number of charge cycles.

[WetWeek]

chilliman, on May 10 2010, 10:37 PM, said:

Not normally user replaceable, just like an ipod, not that they can't be changed either if you have the correct tools and procedures.

Like all rechargeable batteries, they do have a finite number of charge cycles.

Thanks Chilliman.  

Hmmm, I was dead keen on a Garmin but am not sure I'm all that keen an paying $300-$400 for something with  a finite battery life of maybe a couple of years (judging by some of the posts above).

[climax]

chilliman, on May 10 2010, 09:10 PM, said:

Even though it said charging when you left, you may have dirty contacts that caused it not to continue charging.  
What are the 2 contacts like on the watch ?
Try and buff them gently with the bottom of a match, and clean any gunk off them. They should be silver looking, not brown etc.

Try again and note if the % actually increases the longer you leave it attached to the charger. Will it get to 100% is the next question ?

If it appears to charge but still has a blank screen, another thought is to try resetting the watch. Ie hold both buttons in until the watch beeps and then let go.

If all else fails the battery inside may have died, have you noticed a reduced length of total time when using GPS between charges as of late ?

Mine is probably about the same age, I only get about 6.5hrs out of a full charge now. Once it dies eventually i'll rip it apart and explore replacing the battery. (I wouldn't advise this if you intend on exchanging your unit with a Garmin change over).

Thanx for the reply Chilliman. The first thing  did was actually clean the contacts, but they were fine anyway. It actually shows no sign of charging. I tried resetting it but nothing. As far as the battery life goes, I didn't think it was dying at all (when it was working). I guess my next step is to buy a new battery and try it anyway. Thanx again. Will keep you posted.

[sook54]

For the record I've had my 405 for 3 years now, no problems with battery yet but when the day comes I believe that Garmin will do it for you (for a fee of course), so you don't have to get a whole new unit.

[chilliman]

climax, on May 11 2010, 07:14 PM, said:

It actually shows no sign of charging. I tried resetting it but nothing.

I know you said you tried another adapter (and I assume USB clip), but have you tried via a computer USB port direct, not that it will probably make any difference, but worth a try as a last resort.

I noticed the change over out of warranty repair pricefor the 405's in the US is USD$ 79.
No idea of what it is in AUS, you will need to contact Garmin AUS.

I haven't seen any 3rd party batteries out there for the 405 as yet, and we are not 100% sure of whether that is the problem or not anyway.

Added:
You may have seen this too on the Garmin site, but incase not try the following resets:

405 Reset procedures:

Soft Reset
Hold both mechanical buttons in until the screen goes blank (about 10-20 secs), then release.
You should not lose any data.

Hard Resets - Warning data loss

Prompted - (you'll be asked to confirm the reset):You will lose run and configuration data.
Hold both mechanical buttons down until the screen goes blank. Let up on the start/stop/enter(upper) button but keep the lap/reset/quit (lower) button depressed. You should see the prompt at that time.

Non-prompted - All data lost - your unit will be reset to factory specs:
Reset the unit (hold both buttons until the screen blanks) then briefly release the buttons and press them both back down again.
Wait for the unit to tone
Release the START/STOP button and wait for a second tone.
Once you hear the second tone, releasing the bottom button will clear the user data and restart the watch - as new.

The second one can be a bit tricky to perform.

[climax]

Thought I should post how I got on. I contacted the Brisbane firm whom I purchased my 405 from and explained the situation with it. They gave me the number of "Garmin Australasia" who are based in N.S.W. I rang them, and I was told that if I posted my 405 down to them then they would repair it for $139 plus gst - without even looking at it, and if they couldn't repair it then they would replace it for no extra cost. So I posted it on Wednesday May12th; they rang me last Tuesday 18th to request payment and to inform me that they didn't have the parts to fix it; and on Friday 21st, I received a BRAND NEW 405 - with 3 months warranty - from a courier service. How bloody good is that!!!!  (oh yeah, and it does work!) I know I could have sent it back to the US for repair for $79us or something, but I didn't want to have to wait months to get it back. (I rekon I would have looked like a little kid getting a birthday present in the mail when I picked it up!!!!)

Anyway, I am one excited Climax again!!!!

[chilliman]

climax, on May 24 2010, 08:34 PM, said:

Anyway, I am one excited Climax again!!!!

Good to hear Climax, although that last line may have been a bit too much information.

Thanks for letting us know how you got on.

[gibbo mj]

hi all,

I have got a problem with my garmin 405cx.Bought it in February 2010. When i use it for training after 1 minute the screens just goes blank. Tried re-charging it and it does not seem to be charging properly and shows 100% charged when it is turned on. The watch part seems to work but when the gps is activated the screen goes blank. I have not got it wet at all just sweat and drops of rain but not much. can anyone help. I got it from highly tuned athletes website.

[chilliman]

gibbo mj, on Jun 21 2010, 09:41 PM, said:

When i use it for training after 1 minute the screens just goes blank.

Have you tried the tips back here ? (Ignore the out of warranty bit).
Are the charging contacts clean and in fact making good contact ?
Have you spoken to Garmin ?

[gibbo mj]

Hi Chilliman,

This seems to have worked. Held the 2 buttons down and reset it. I went outside for 5 minutes and walked around the block with GPS on and it did not go blank. I will try on a longer run tomorrow. The charging area is kept clean.

[craig9elf]

Does anyone know if you can set an alarm on the 405 to go off regularly at a set amount of time after the timer is started? An alarm every 50mins to take a gel etc. I can't find the facility to do this but I could be missing something.
Thank you in advance.

[chilliman]

craig9elf, on Jun 25 2010, 09:56 PM, said:

Does anyone know if you can set an alarm on the 405 to go off regularly at a set amount of time after the timer is started? An alarm every 50mins to take a gel etc.

Under advanced workout in the garmin training center GTC you can set workout steps based on time or distance. So you could say set a step to go for 50 mins followed by another then another. I assume (I haven't tried) that it will beep when the 50mins is up and moves on to the next workout step. You can also set the 50 minute period to maintain a HR, cadence, or speed zone window while you are at it if you wanted to.
Obviously test it out to make sure it works before a race. If it is like what I have used for other workout steps it won't be a continuous alarm just a unique beep/chirp sound between steps.

[RunRabbit]

gibbo mj, on Jun 21 2010, 09:41 PM, said:

hi all,

I have got a problem with my garmin 405cx.Bought it in February 2010. When i use it for training after 1 minute the screens just goes blank. Tried re-charging it and it does not seem to be charging properly and shows 100% charged when it is turned on. The watch part seems to work but when the gps is activated the screen goes blank. I have not got it wet at all just sweat and drops of rain but not much. can anyone help. I got it from highly tuned athletes website.

Hi Gibbo

I had a similar problem but after 10 months.  The reset worked for a while but got worse.  Unfortunately I waited until it was outside the warranty period before I contacted Garmin so had to pay for a replacement ........ which I promptly sold on E-bay and bought myself a 310 XT.

The problem is the 405 is not a sealed unit - I don't know why but any moisture stuffs it up just like it does the predecessors.  The 310xt is still travelling OK after 5 months so fingers crossed this one is water resistant as they claim.  My wife thinks I have more money than sense.  

RR

[chilliman]

RunRabbit, on Jun 26 2010, 06:24 AM, said:

The problem is the 405 is not a sealed unit - I don't know why but any moisture stuffs it up just like it does the predecessors.

That is not quite correct, any is a bit harsh.
It is sealed to a point. The 405 is rated as water resistant IPX7. Ie. It is splash/rain resistant. Definitely not swimmable, nor can it stand up to the shocks/pressure/movement under water like the 310xt. (I do think Garmin should spell this out more in the manual).

My 405 is 2years old now and it has been drenched in rain and storms now many times and still going strong. I just make a point of not to swim with it, push any of the mechanical buttons while it is dripping wet, submerse it at any depth, or shower with it on - not once. Other than that I run in showers and storms often for many hours at a time, do the dishes with it on, sweat heavily on occasions, etc. It certainly gets it's fair share of moisture.

I have seen examples out there of 405/405CX's with fogged screens, I do wonder though if they have been in the occasional shower, or a dip in the pool.

Not sure what Garmin's warranty policy is regarding water damage, nor do I know for a fact if the 405 has moisture indicators like many of the new phone products, and if they can tell if the unit has been pushed past the IPX7 rating.

[RunRabbit]

Can only restate what my experience was - 305 and 405 were never submerged but both lasted less than 12 months.  I may be unlucky but given the amount of discussion around moisture issues with the 305 I assumed the 405 problems were related.

As I said - fingers crossed for the 310XT!

RR

[chilliman]

RunRabbit, on Jun 26 2010, 10:31 AM, said:

As I said - fingers crossed for the 310XT!

The 310 has the IPX-8 rating, - for use underwater, but just don't go scuba diving or surfing with it.

RunRabbit, on Jun 26 2010, 10:31 AM, said:

given the amount of discussion around moisture issues with the 305 I assumed the 405 problems were related.

You can't assume that at all, the 305 did have a known issue with the speaker holes and moisture entering. Did you notice any speaker holes on the 405 ?

[whitelion]

Hey guys.  Hope someone can shed some light for me....I'm wondering how to set up my 405cx when the display is in a foreign language.  I can't see anything in the manuals on how to change this.  

Thanks,
Kim

[whitelion]

OK, I have it in English now - that's a start!  Now to have some fun with it.

[chilliman]

whitelion, on Jun 26 2010, 12:34 PM, said:

....I'm wondering how to set up my 405cx when the display is in a foreign language.

That's funny that it shipped in a language other than English, which boat did it fall off from whitelion.
Would be hard to navigate through the menus.
Otherwise it is Menu>Settings>System>Language

We may have trouble keeping up now next Wed with your new toy.

[Narred]

chilliman, on Jun 26 2010, 01:44 PM, said:

That's funny that it shipped in a language other than English, which boat did it fall off from whitelion.
Would be hard to navigate through the menus.
Otherwise it is Menu>Settings>System>Language

We may have trouble keeping up now next Wed with your new toy.

Hey Chilliman,

Now have had a couple of days 'trying' to suss my 405CX out. A couple of things - is there a way to have distance shown in KMs as it seems to be in miles? The other is I tried to turn GPS off to save battery time but somehow (me) it is stuck on a compass when I push the GPS side of watch?

Any basic clues on these problems? Otherwise will just keep playing around with it hoping to 'fluke' the right screen!!!

Cheers Narred

[chilliman]

Narred, on Jun 26 2010, 02:54 PM, said:

Now have had a couple of days 'trying' to suss my 405CX out. A couple of things - is there a way to have distance shown in KMs as it seems to be in miles? The other is I tried to turn GPS off to save battery time but somehow (me) it is stuck on a compass when I push the GPS side of watch?

Menu>Settings> System>Units>Distance>Metric on the first problem.

On the compass issue, have you tried pressing the lap reset button (bottom one) a couple of times to go back (from the GPS menu) ?
Sounds like you are trying to go to a location that you will need to stop from the GPS menu. "Stop go to" or "Stop route" if you have accidentally pressed "Back to start".


I used to turn the GPS on and off all the time, as I have disabled the auto timeout (mainly to stop it timing out before the start of runs). But now I just switch to the main time screen (as long as a run is not being recorded), and the GPS will go into standby. So at the end of a run, stop the run, unlock the bezel, hold the time/date part of the bezel, it will switch to display time, and the GPS will be in standby. (this will happen on its own if you have the default auto timeout set when you stop a run).

Good luck with it all, i'm sure you will love it once you have mastered the interface.
(Much better choice than the other one you were looking at).

[Narred]

chilliman, on Jun 26 2010, 05:49 PM, said:

Menu>Settings> System>Units>Distance>Metric on the first problem.

On the compass issue, have you tried pressing the lap reset button (bottom one) a couple of times to go back (from the GPS menu) ?
Sounds like you are trying to go to a location that you will need to stop from the GPS menu. "Stop go to" or "Stop route" if you have accidentally pressed "Back to start".


I used to turn the GPS on and off all the time, as I have disabled the auto timeout (mainly to stop it timing out before the start of runs). But now I just switch to the main time screen (as long as a run is not being recorded), and the GPS will go into standby. So at the end of a run, stop the run, unlock the bezel, hold the time/date part of the bezel, it will switch to display time, and the GPS will be in standby. (this will happen on its own if you have the default auto timeout set when you stop a run).

Good luck with it all, i'm sure you will love it once you have mastered the interface.
(Much better choice than the other one you were looking at).

Thanks Chilliman,

All sorted on those problems!!! Might have 30kms of questions tomorrow at YY for you!!! Theres a good reason for you to bolt off on run at start!!

Cheers Narred

[ninjette]

Hi there,

Just new to the world of Garmin, having bought my first one (405CX) a few days ago. I'm in the taper period now leading up to my first marathon at the Gold Coast next Sunday, so I haven't done any long runs with the Garmin yet (no more than 10km). And I've just realized: when I run for around 20km, I need to use Bodyglide around the straps and especially the lower band of my sports bra. For 30km+ I need the extra strength of Vaseline to prevent serious and bloody chafing in those areas. So will it be possible for me to use the heartrate monitor of my 405 if I'm covered in Vaseline, or will this effect the monitor's ability to track my heart rate? (Sorry, I have no idea how the technology works...). Has anyone who's run 42km with a heartrate monitor found that it's the cause of chafing?

Thanks for any advice. I'd really like to log my heart-rate on the run, but being chafe-free stands as a higher priority.

Ninjette.

[tomtom1]

ninjette, on Jun 26 2010, 07:19 PM, said:

Hi there,

Just new to the world of Garmin, having bought my first one (405CX) a few days ago. I'm in the taper period now leading up to my first marathon at the Gold Coast next Sunday, so I haven't done any long runs with the Garmin yet (no more than 10km). And I've just realized: when I run for around 20km, I need to use Bodyglide around the straps and especially the lower band of my sports bra. For 30km+ I need the extra strength of Vaseline to prevent serious and bloody chafing in those areas. So will it be possible for me to use the heartrate monitor of my 405 if I'm covered in Vaseline, or will this effect the monitor's ability to track my heart rate? (Sorry, I have no idea how the technology works...). Has anyone who's run 42km with a heartrate monitor found that it's the cause of chafing?

Thanks for any advice. I'd really like to log my heart-rate on the run, but being chafe-free stands as a higher priority.

Ninjette.

If anything the vaseline should enhance the signal from the hrm

[chilliman]

ninjette, on Jun 26 2010, 07:19 PM, said:

Has anyone who's run 42km with a heartrate monitor found that it's the cause of chafing?

I've run a 100k with the 405 HRM and not had an issue with chafing from it.

I usually use bodyglide or 3B cream on the nipples/groin, but don't need it for the HRM or strap. Everyone is different, best to experiment, but obviously your time is running out. I find both products I mentioned far superior to Vaseline though to prevent chaffing on the run.

My only concern with the Vasoline on the HRM would be that it is petroleum jelly, not sure what effect that will have on the plastic, rubber and electrodes of the HRM and strap. I'm not sure of the conductivity of Vasoline either compared to proper electrode Gel, and whether that will effect HR readings or not. I'll be running with a few Garmin wearing girls in the morning, I'll ask what they use and report back.

If it was me at this late stage, i'd be asking what is more important with only a week to go, one less thing to worry about, or tracking your heart rate for the run ?

[ShanksPony]

hi ninjette - i've had the start of chafing with my hrm too and that's just after 2hrs.  The watch itself is ok for me though.  Haven't tried any creams etc as i haven't run that far since it happened (broken foot, humphh).

I'd give it a miss for your marathon unless you have a bra with a wide band on the bottom so that if the hrm starts to rub you could just wear it on top of the bra instead of underneath (i.e. somewhere to keep it safe while you finish, even though it won't be able to record your heart rate like that).

[ninjette]

Thanks for the replies, guys.

Chilliman, I would definitely be interested in hearing about the experiences of your female running friends. Thanks also for that insight, ShanksPony; I suspect the same would happen to me, and as I'm looking at a 5hr marathon, it probably isn't worth the risk. I'm really feeling like running the race with the minimum I need to take with me, eg. no fuel belt, powerbars, etc; so by the same token, if it's easier to leave the HRM off, then that's what I'll do.

My husband also thinks that a petroleum-based product would be less electrically conductive as well as more corrosive to the plastic, rubber, etc. so that's another reason to let it go for the moment.

Thanks again, Ninjette.

[craig9elf]

chilliman, on Jun 25 2010, 10:46 PM, said:

Under advanced workout in the garmin training center GTC you can set workout steps based on time or distance. So you could say set a step to go for 50 mins followed by another then another. I assume (I haven't tried) that it will beep when the 50mins is up and moves on to the next workout step. You can also set the 50 minute period to maintain a HR, cadence, or speed zone window while you are at it if you wanted to.
Obviously test it out to make sure it works before a race. If it is like what I have used for other workout steps it won't be a continuous alarm just a unique beep/chirp sound between steps.

Thank you for your help Chilliman. You have inspired me to re-read the manual.

I have set an interval at 50mins with 5 sec rest, many reps. Hopefully this will give me the beeps at each 50 mins.

Thanks again

[UnfitnessFanatic]

Does anyone know if the HRM supplied with the 405cx is the same as the FR60?  I am picking my 405cx up tomorrow and looking to sell my FR60 so thought I'd do the right thing and sell it with a new unused HRM if it is compatible.

[Debz]

I have a question, I hope has an answer  

Is it possible to get the Latitude/Longitude bearing on the 405CX?  I had a quick look at the manual, and checked the GPS menu, but could only find
GPS>goto location>GRMEUR  or GRMTWN or GARMIN

that gives me a number of KMs NW, NE ...  not so many degrees S, so many degrees E.

This is purely a "Safety" reason.  As I am often alone riding or running, and if I had an accident, and called 000 I wondered if I could give a position as there may not be a "cross street" to give.


Thanks ...  

[RobGrinter]

UnfitnessFanatic, on Jun 28 2010, 12:16 PM, said:

Does anyone know if the HRM supplied with the 405cx is the same as the FR60?  I am picking my 405cx up tomorrow and looking to sell my FR60 so thought I'd do the right thing and sell it with a new unused HRM if it is compatible.

Exactly the same strap.

[UnfitnessFanatic]

RobGrinter, on Jun 28 2010, 01:23 PM, said:

Exactly the same strap.

Thanks  

[chilliman]

Debz, on Jun 28 2010, 01:02 PM, said:

....that gives me a number of KMs NW, NE ...  not so many degrees S, so many degrees E.

If you "Edit the location" it will give you degrees S and E, you can enter your own as well if you want to go to a particular location as the crow flies.

So GPS>Go to Location>Saved location name>Edit>Position>

If you want to know where you are on the 405 or 405CX, GPS>Save Location>Press Enter (to Edit)>Position>

[Debz]

Thanks heaps Chilli ...    you just saved my life ... so to speak...  

So cool .. it worked!

Edit:  I've just thought of another safety question .. say I was unable to get phone signal on my mobile, and did not return in a reasonable time - is it possible for my 405cx to be able to be tracked and found?

Edited by Debz, 28 June 2010 - 02:46 PM.

[chilliman]

Debz, on Jun 28 2010, 02:29 PM, said:

Edit:  I've just thought of another safety question .. say I was unable to get phone signal on my mobile, and did not return in a reasonable time - is it possible for my 405cx to be able to be tracked and found?

No, you need a PLB for that. Ed: (for a real emergency, that is). (112 helps on your phone too if you don't have access to your network, but another is available, once again in a real emergency).

And BTW, if it was me, my Garmin battery would be well and truly flat by the time I admitted to myself that I was lost and needed help.

The "return to start" did help me once on the 405 when I was 20k out from camp in a foreign part of the state, bush bashing and disorientated in heavy forest, with a very dark bucketing down sky with no sense of the horizon or sun positioning. The hardest part was getting the bezel dry enough to get to that screen.