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[SlimDJ]

A bit shocked that there isn't already a Forum set up for this one.

Perfect lead up race for the Marathon.

This year I'll be trying to put in my race pace for the full 30km.  So 21 minute laps - with the race strategy of "set Garmin for 4:12 min/km, nothing more nothing less, run for 2 hours and 6 minutes, stop, eat pancakes" .  Anyone keen to join in?

[GrizzlyBear]

Hi Slim DJ

I agree, perfect lead in race.

Although our strategy is the same our pace will different!

I think I will be happy to go close to 25 min laps for a 2:30 although to be honest I think that it will be closer to 2:40 as I haven't done a lot of long miles recently.

But a very good gauge of where I am at!

And then the pancakes. Mmmm!

See you then

Dave

[lyricnz]

GrizzlyBear, on 20 July 2011 - 01:34 PM, said:

I agree, perfect lead in race.
Although our strategy is the same our pace will different!
I think I will be happy to go close to 25 min laps for a 2:30 although to be honest I think that it will be closer to 2:40 as I haven't done a lot of long miles recently.

Yup, I'm looking forward to the 30km (my first >HM distance!), just wondering where I'll hit "the wall". Otherwise, hoping to bang out my expected marathon pace, 5 minute something.

[Durant]

looking forward to this. Princes Park is where i do my weekend long run anyway, but this will be good. hoping to come in at 2:25-2:30.

[Brendan90]

I may as well register.. it'll make me do a long run well in advance for MM. Will probably run it with 5:15-5:20kms, won't even attempt my race speed which is currently around 4:53-4:55

[RaoulDuke]

Looks like a fairly uninspiring course (6x5km laps!) but I'm in and will try to stick to 5.20/km. Only been to 30km once before, all other long runs to date have been 27km between 5.30-5.50 pace.

Hope the pancakes are still warm once I finish!

[DonBob]

Im in for this one to but I will probably go for the soft option of 5 or 10k.

[Grechy]

I will probably give this one a miss as I will be doing the official MM training series so that will be my long run for the weekend.

[luckyguy]

DonBob, on 20 July 2011 - 11:14 PM, said:

Im in for this one to but I will probably go for the soft option of 5 or 10k.

I don't know about the soft option, Don. I think a 5k race can be pretty tough. Which is what I'll be doing.

Look forward to catching up and hearing about your Gold Coast glory. M

[drbass]

In for the 30, looking at somewhere just below 5/k pace. It'll be busy on that bus seeing quite a few aiming for a similar pace :-)!

See you there,
Michael

[SlimDJ]

RaoulDuke, on 20 July 2011 - 05:51 PM, said:

Looks like a fairly uninspiring course (6x5km laps!)

It is - as a stand alone race I think it is bloody tough doing 6 laps - but as a pacing run I find the manotony is perfect preperation.

luckyguy, on 21 July 2011 - 09:06 AM, said:

I don't know about the soft option, Don. I think a 5k race can be pretty tough. Which is what I'll be doing.

Agree - never spewed in a race of 10km or more - but have most times in a shorter race.

[Tiger Boy]

I suppose I will have to extract a digit very shortly and enter the 30km event.
Will probably just take it easy and stroll around at 5min pace. Just looked over my past performances which have been:
2006 - 2.25
2007 - 2.27
2008 - 2.27
2009 - 2.29
2010 - 2.26

Looking to finish in that range again this year.
One of these days I'll have to try and race the event.
If I pull up OK, and within target, I may start to vaguely consider my options re MM.

[DonBob]

luckyguy, on 21 July 2011 - 09:06 AM, said:

I don't know about the soft option, Don. I think a 5k race can be pretty tough. Which is what I'll be doing.

Look forward to catching up and hearing about your Gold Coast glory. M

Yea I do agree M, everytime I race this distance I struggle and think its not for me but I thought it was time to try and get a PB. 2009 is the last time I PB at these distances so it should be interesting to see if I have improved.
I think im going to do the 10k but will def like to catch up for a chat and a pancake afterwards. CHEERS DB
EDIT: Change of plans just entered the 30k.

Edited by DonBob, 21 July 2011 - 09:38 PM.

[TheFlyingFlea]

I am in for the 30km, just using it as a good training run and to see where I am at for MM. Sounds like what most people are doing!

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and the pancakes!!!!

[GrizzlyBear]

Aah Tiger Boy

Fond memories of last year on your bus!

And do I detect a hint of a Melbourne marathon start!!

I may drive on a slower bus this year, just over 5 min pace I think.

But I will decide on the day!

DB

[courtlylove]

I've registered for the 30km again - just a long training run ... and pancakes!

CL

[Pink Lady]

courtlylove, on 22 July 2011 - 01:12 PM, said:

I've registered for the 30km again - just a long training run ... and pancakes!
CL  

I hope that I will have a chance to catch up with you CL, as well as a number of other CRs, before the run. If I do manage to come for a quick (for me) 5 or 10k I won't be able to hang around afterwards. I am heading off for a few days travel including a helicopter flight over Lake Eyre.

Tiger - only a thought    if only you could take the same 'its only a long training run' approach to the MM as you do each year to this one then ....

[Tiger Boy]

Pink Lady, on 22 July 2011 - 02:14 PM, said:

Tiger - only a thought    if only you could take the same 'its only a long training run' approach to the MM as you do each year to this one then ....

It's been crossing my mind....

[russell2pi]

Could I just ask - nothing between the lines, just a newbie question - most of you who are doing this run aren't racing it. What's the attraction, then, compared to just doing your own training run? Is it the social aspect?

[lyricnz]

russell2pi, on 22 July 2011 - 06:18 PM, said:

Could I just ask - nothing between the lines, just a newbie question - most of you who are doing this run aren't racing it. What's the attraction, then, compared to just doing your own training run? Is it the social aspect?

Social. And pancakes. And a change of scenery.

[Tiger Boy]

russell2pi, on 22 July 2011 - 06:18 PM, said:

Could I just ask - nothing between the lines, just a newbie question - most of you who are doing this run aren't racing it. What's the attraction, then, compared to just doing your own training run? Is it the social aspect?

A bit social, but also as it's the first time I hit 30km during the year it's a tester to se where I'm at re marathon training. I do enough races with my club so don't need to race, and while I could do a long run on my own, this fits nicely on the calendar. To me it's a good time to start the build up for MM, and the nature of the course is such that if you get into trouble, you are never far from having an "out", the repetitive nature helps buil the mental strength, and it's fully supported with drink stations so I don't have to carry anything with me.

[supernator]

Thinking of doing the 30k as a lead up to Melb Mara (aim for sub 3.50 time), I do part of my long runs at PP so anticipating a boring run. However, all this talk of 5 min k's is scaring me a bit. At my 5.30-5.40 pace I fear I'll be all alone at the end of the show. Are there any runners up for the 30k who aren't 5 (or) sub runners?

[lyricnz]

supernator, on 22 July 2011 - 09:41 PM, said:

Thinking of doing the 30k as a lead up to Melb Mara (aim for sub 3.50 time), I do part of my long runs at PP so anticipating a boring run. However, all this talk of 5 min k's is scaring me a bit. At my 5.30-5.40 pace I fear I'll be all alone at the end of the show. Are there any runners up for the 30k who aren't 5 (or) sub runners?

I'll probably be around your pace, or a tiny bit faster.  I ran slightly sub 5/km at the HM last weekend, but figure I'll need to take it a fair bit slower to last the 30km distance...

Edited by lyricnz, 22 July 2011 - 09:55 PM.

[Brendan90]

Supernator,

You seem to be in the exact same place as myself, i'm aiming for 3:45 in MM, my previous PB is 3:53.. I plan to run the Sri Chinmoy 30km with 5:20-5:30kms, it'll be a good run !

[supernator]

Thanks Brendan90 & lyrincnz, I've only ever run the bigger events where there is 'safety in numbers'.  

Also, with the PP run, it seems there are some who are treating it as a training run (lead up to MM)while others will be racing. My race goal is focussed on the MM, any thoughts on how to approach the run. Not interested in a taper or comprimising the following week's training.

[lyricnz]

supernator, on 23 July 2011 - 12:04 PM, said:

Thanks Brendan90 & lyrincnz, I've only ever run the bigger events where there is 'safety in numbers'.  

Also, with the PP run, it seems there are some who are treating it as a training run (lead up to MM)while others will be racing. My race goal is focussed on the MM, any thoughts on how to approach the run. Not interested in a taper or comprimising the following week's training.

The Sri Chinmoy events are still big enough that you won't stick out if you're running a bit slower   

Did 25km at 5:25/km pace today, feeling good, so will probably aim to knock out the 30km at the same pace next weekend.  Not racing, just a catered long run   Especially if I do 14 (or 28!) on the Saturday before with RITB

[SlimDJ]

russell2pi, on 22 July 2011 - 06:18 PM, said:

Could I just ask - nothing between the lines, just a newbie question - most of you who are doing this run aren't racing it. What's the attraction, then, compared to just doing your own training run? Is it the social aspect?

Oh, I am racing it - but will not be doing it as an all out race - keeping up Marathon Pace for 30km is bloody hard work - and without a taper, or the attraction of 'the big day' it will be a real mental challenge - and when that is combined with 6 laps of the same scenery I find it to be the ideal litmus test.

Perhaps the biggest factor is a chance to put into practice some race strategy.

supernator, on 22 July 2011 - 09:41 PM, said:

Thinking of doing the 30k as a lead up to Melb Mara (aim for sub 3.50 time), I do part of my long runs at PP so anticipating a boring run. However, all this talk of 5 min k's is scaring me a bit. At my 5.30-5.40 pace I fear I'll be all alone at the end of the show. Are there any runners up for the 30k who aren't 5 (or) sub runners?

At the SC events there will be far more people in the 5:30 - 6:00 zone than in any other zone.  You will constantly have people around you (well within easy sight).

[Durant]

I'm hoping for a 3:30-3:40 marathon in October for my first marathon, I'm treating this run as both a good strategy test, and more practice running alongside other people. For a newbie like me I still sometimes have trouble keeping my own pace when others fly by me.

If i can come in under 2:30 on Sunday I'll be rapt, but i'll see how i go on the day.

[shaunh]

Im in for the 30 as well , managed 28km today but it is my first real long run, my others have been around 23km.I will be around the 6.00 range as well, good training for mm probably just like everyone else . I have never done one these events before,only the big ones like supernator. But have only read good things about them on CR.

[courtlylove]

I'm seriously slow - 6-6.5 mins per km!

CL

[Stej]

Still making a slow recovery from injury so I'll be in for the 10km... at least I should be guaranteed that there will still be pancakes  

[ameek84]

in for the 30. 2.15-2.20 would be a nice marathon lead up.

[supernator]

Was pretty soggy around PP this morning, I kept to the asphalt but noticed a few folk running the tan bit. Hope weather's OK next Sunday and the path is in reasonable condition.

[Tiger Boy]

Finally extracted a digit and entered the 30km. See you there. (and for those of you in the shorter event, save me a pancake).

[Darmo]

lyricnz, on 23 July 2011 - 01:27 PM, said:

The Sri Chinmoy events are still big enough that you won't stick out if you're running a bit slower   

Did 25km at 5:25/km pace today, feeling good, so will probably aim to knock out the 30km at the same pace next weekend.  Not racing, just a catered long run   Especially if I do 14 (or 28!) on the Saturday before with RITB

I also did 25km at 5:25/km pace last weekend. Will probably give the 30 at Princess Park a go on Sunday at the same pace, (but I'll be taking the day before off.) Likewise, this will be a training run for me with the end goal the MM.

Are the pancakes anywhere near the track? It'd be bloody hard to complete 30km if people are hanging about eating pancakes after the first 10km!

[Durant]

what is everyone doing in the lead up to the run on Sunday? I'm hoping to run a reasonably good time so will take it pretty easy this week, a few 5km runs at varying speeds and that's about it. Won't do anything Friday or Saturday...

[courtlylove]

Darmo, if you're doing the 30km, you run past the pancakes five times before the end of the race when you can get one for yourself. Torture indeed!

CL

[Pink Lady]

Durant, on 26 July 2011 - 08:05 PM, said:

what is everyone doing in the lead up to the run on Sunday? I'm hoping to run a reasonably good time so will take it pretty easy this week, a few 5km runs at varying speeds and that's about it. Won't do anything Friday or Saturday...

Because I can only squeeze in a 5k run on Sunday I am actually doing a longish run on Saturday. As my next major run is the half in Alice Springs on August 21, I will probably do about 15k on Saturday and (hopefully) then do the 5k at a 'challenging pace' on Sunday. My PB for the 5k is currently slower than my 10 - so that gives me something to aim for.

[GrizzlyBear]

Just bumping this!

I've run hard this week and had a rest today and will do the same tomorrow.

I think I'll try and hold 5 min/km and try and get as close to 2:30 as possible.

Confident for the first 3 or 4 laps but not as confident for the last 2! But will make a final decision on the day!

Also, I think the 20km & 30km now start 10 minutes later. Must be a few people running!

I'll be wearing CR cap. If anyone wants to run with me, always welcome!

Good luck to everyone running.

Dave

[SlimDJ]

Durant, on 26 July 2011 - 08:05 PM, said:

what is everyone doing in the lead up to the run on Sunday? I'm hoping to run a reasonably good time so will take it pretty easy this week, a few 5km runs at varying speeds and that's about it. Won't do anything Friday or Saturday...

17.5km yesterday - 60 min pyramid tempo today - I may go out for 8km tomorrow - depends on how I feel. Pooping myself a little about Sunday. Like others have said I am fairly comfortable for 0 - 21.1km after that I'm not too sure.

Edited by Slim DJ, 29 July 2011 - 02:58 PM.

[Pasty]

I'll be plodding around on Sunday trying to keep up to ms pasty.  I find this race is good at reminding me what running on tired legs is all about. Maybe a ride on Saturday or a ski - depends on the weather.  Maybe in the 2.20s though more likely 2.30, and I hope they still have pancakes left at the end.  The soggier the track the better....

[Tiger Boy]

Still good for the full 30km at 5.00 each. Had a light week, partly giving the nagging ankle every opportunity, partly laziness. This should sort out the lazy bit.
I think it is just too far a distance for me to race hard (probably by about 29.2kms), which is why I am happy to plod along at this one.

[drbass]

Perfect day (as usual, little bit less wind would have been great).

Huge turnout, a few CRs, and well-done to everyone.

My goal was to go just under 5min/k, and despite a shocking (at least in terms of how I felt) last lap I managed to finish in 2:26:58 (chip) which is 4:54. Very happy with that.

If anyone's interested, here's the Garmin readout:
http://connect.garmi...ivity/102911351

Plenty of pancakes left at the end, another great morning for running.

See you next time (2 weeks, same venue different course, VRR half).

Michael

[Durant]

what.a.morning!

cracking day for it, and once again a well organised event.

I had 2:30 as my goal, but deep down i thought 2:26 might be a chance. Tracking ok through 20km at 1:37:40, and then died in the last 4-5km to finish in 2:29:39. So hit my goal, but a bit worried about the drop off toward the end!

[Brendan90]

Had a great day! Met a few CRs today, and started the race just behind Dave and Tiger Boy, but dropped off after about 3km and stuck to my initial plan.

I wanted to run 5:20-5:30kms. According to my iPhone app that i had running i ran 5:26 however it was almost a km short, probably due to the tunnels or possibly poor reception (...I am with Vodafone...) I Got my official time sms'd to me just after i finished, 2:39:17.. A pace of 5:18.56!!! Stoked!!

I used the run to see just where abouts i am in terms of MM, and met goals and exceeded my expectations. Fantastic Event !!

[lyricnz]

Yup, another good day. I saw a few CRers about, and apart from a bad fade the last lap, was okay with my time - though by watch I just missed going under 2:30   However was easily under my goal 2:45, and look like I broke 1:40 for the HM distance (hard to tell).  Wooooooo!.  Roll on MM!   http://connect.garmi...ivity/102919683 - ignore the bit at the end.

Edited by lyricnz, 31 July 2011 - 01:05 PM.

[supernator]

Great day all round I thought. Well done to all those who participated. Wrapped I was part of it.

Brendan90, I came in at 2.39.02 (my watch time), so as your earlier post suggested, I must have been running with you timewise or thereabouts (I had a green t-shirt and white cap on).

Looking forward to MM.

[Brendan90]

Ahhh Supernator, you were in front of me for the last km! You passed me just when you passed the other guy in the green t-shirt just before the 4km marker... I was in a blue singlet! Good effort! What time are you looking at in MM?

[Stej]

What great weather for a run.  Despite rain the night before the ground was not really slushy at all.  I had planned this race to be a test of how some injuries were healing up and suprised myself with a 10km PB.  Almost wished I had entered one of th longer distances. But then there is something enjoyable about gobbling down pancakes while watching the other runners complete another 2-4 laps.

[Narred]

http://results.racet...RId=20012&EId=4

Just need to change screen to which ever race you did - top LH corner RACE DETAILS