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[TRAVY]

A few years ago Warnie took some diuretic pills to loose weight. Would a similar but-lesser affect happen from a high fiber diet. eg  If you had a diet very high on fiber would you loose weight.

[sol]

TRAVY, on Oct 19 2007, 08:08 AM, said:

A few years ago Warnie took some diuretic pills to loose weight. Would a similar but-lesser affect happen from a high fiber diet. eg  If you had a diet very high on fiber would you loose weight.

I think so, for a variety of reasons.

Foods high in fibre tend to have a low calorific content. The fibre itself has no nutritional value so that decreases the concentation of any energy contained in the food.

Foods high in fibre tend to fill you up a lot. Try eating a big bowl of All Bran and milk - sure way to get a stomach ache! So you're less likely to then eat other foods that would fatten you up.

Then there is the health benefits of the fibre itself, in terms of regularity of the bowel and GIT health in general.

But the thing is, would you be happy *eating a diet very high in fibre? Probably not, unless you planned it really carefully, or else are a glutton for punishment!

I get most of my fibre from Sultana Bran, high fibre bread, fruit, and vegetables. Dunno what the actual fibre content of my diet is, but I managed to lose about 12kg over 3 months when I switched to this diet last year and concurrently cut out a lot of highly processed carbs (i.e. junk food!)

Cheers,
csol.

[Rudolf]

2 wrongs does not make it right


I use this sentence whenever I am asked about fibres in food and high fibre diet.

I understand that this would be viewed as controversial, but guess what ? I am used to it  

so my short answer is, the high fibre diet is wrong idea, is health damaging, and I personaly have the best experiences on zero fibre nutritional system.

I am not sure if I am going to go into details and into reasoning etc, lets see first for few days what reactions and other views would be presented

[kathmandu]

Hey Travy,

My thoughts are that using diruetics / laxatives for weight mnagement is kidding yourself. You're loosing water and umm....poo volume, which will make you lighter but have no bearing on your fat percentage.

My thoughts on fibre are that it wont directly affect your weight, but as csol said, it adds bulk to your intake and therefore makes you feel full. Fibre also apparently assists in bowel health by cleaning out the pipes, so to speak! Although thats just what they say, who knows.

Rudolf - i think you should go into details about your ideas. These topics are supposed to be a discussion of views. I guess, personally, i just dont like it when it turns into a slagging match. Healthy discussion is a good thing!! Go on, give it to us!!!!

[Aeroplane]

As csol mentioned,  A high fibre diet can help you lose weight through making you feel fuller for longer; as well as the fact that these foods generally do have a lower calorific content.

If you're talking about going to the toilet more, therefore causing you to lose weight. (ie the laxative effect of fibre). This may work in the short term, but all you are getting rid of is the waste products from the food the body has already processed. The fats and carbos etc have already been taken from the food, and abosrbed into your  body, so really you'd just be losing water weight. Pretty dangerous in runners, as it can cause all sorts of electrolyte imbalances in your body.

Diets high in fibre are great in preventing cancer and keeping you regular, but they can be a bit of a problem in runners. "Runner's Trots" can worsen if there is too much fibre in your diet. Personally, if I have a big race, or a scheduled long run coming up, I'll lay off the high fibre foods for 2 days before to make sure I don't get any cramping or diarrhoea.

[sharpie]

TRAVY, on Oct 19 2007, 08:08 AM, said:

A few years ago Warnie took some diuretic pills to loose weight. Would a similar but-lesser affect happen from a high fiber diet. eg  If you had a diet very high on fiber would you loose weight.

Well I think that we all know that Warnie doesn't have 2 neurones that talk to each other. He's a great role model as long as you do the exact opposite.
Fibre in moderation is good for a whole range of things but weight loss is more about the balance of calories in vs calories burnt.

[Shankate]

A high fibre diet is useful in making you feel fuller for longer, but just be wary - as mentioned previously it can pre-dispose you to the runners trots.... I have a very high fibre diet, lots of raw vegies, fruit, grains etc. and without going into too much detail will just say that nature calls frequently on longer runs and there's pain to boot. I know that I should reduce the fibre in my diet, but I'm so used to eating these foods and worry that lower fibre foods won't leave me as saited.

I will always try and cut back the fibre before an event to try and prevent this happening, but then I am left with the dilemma of what TO eat!!? (ie. what will I allow myself to eat that is low in fibre.....!)

[Jogger]

I don't really believe in "diets" just to lose weight or whatever. Its probably better to just eat a good (*) diet all the time. If you run regulary and have a good diet then over time your body should adjust in the right direction.

Rudolf, on Oct 19 2007, 10:16 AM, said:

I personaly have the best experiences on zero fibre nutritional system.

Rudi - I have read that you are a raw food vegan. Assume fruits and vegetables. I would be interested to see what you do to them to lose the fibre. a "high fibre diet" is usually one with high % of fruits and vegetables (with skins etc).

If you are disagreeing with bulking up on excess quantities of bran then I can see that this is not really a healthy diet.

(*) I appreciate that there is a varying defintion of good, sepending on each person's beliefs and philosophies.

[BushBashed]

Rudolf, on Oct 19 2007, 09:16 AM, said:

2 wrongs does not make it right
I use this sentence whenever I am asked about fibres in food and high fibre diet.

I understand that this would be viewed as controversial, but guess what ? I am used to it  

so my short answer is, the high fibre diet is wrong idea, is health damaging, and I personaly have the best experiences on zero fibre nutritional system.

I am not sure if I am going to go into details and into reasoning etc, lets see first for few days what reactions and other views would be presented

No one else bit, but I can't resist  

What do you eat so as to get ZERO fibre? That's pretty impressive :-)

[Jogger]

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No one else bit, but I can't resist

well, I did, I beat you by 1 min. great minds think alike!

[Rudolf]

JoggerKev, on Nov 13 2007, 11:32 AM, said:

Rudi - I have read that you are a raw food vegan. Assume fruits and vegetables. I would be interested to see what you do to them to lose the fibre. a "high fibre diet" is usually one with high % of fruits and vegetables (with skins etc).

it is easy, it is called juicing, the proper one not from BOOST outlets

I am not on fibre free regime at the moment, and I can tell the big difference