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[Rudolf]

I do not like the olympics medal tally for reason it is distorted by horsing, shooting etc and teh obvious issue with multiplying the swimm...

was thinking to do athletics only, but at the end decided to do running only, so no jumping and throws, also not including stuff which is too technical like hurdles and walks, but including the steeple.

so far :

JAM - 2 2 0
ETH - 2 1 0
RUS - 1 0 1
ROU - 1 0 0
KEN - 0 2 1
TUR - 0 1 0
TRI - 0 1 0
USA - 0 0 2
CHN - 0 0 1


results:

10k W - ETH - TUR - USA
100 M - JAM - TRI - USA
mar W- ROU - KEN - CHN
stpl W - RUS - KEN - RUS
100 W - JAM - JAMx2 - --
10k M - ETH - ETH - KEN

bobsled - JAMAICA  


edited :

edited JAM and 100m W initialy I did not realize they have equal silver and no bronze

Edited by Rudolf, 18 August 2008 - 08:45 AM.

[funrunner63]

Rudolf, on Aug 17 2008, 05:17 PM, said:

I do not like the olympics medal tally for reason it is distorted by horsing, shooting etc and teh obvious issue with multiplying the swimm...

was thinking to do athletics only, but at the end decided to do running only, so no jumping and throws, also not including stuff which is too technical like hurdles and walks, but including the steeple.

so far :

JAM - 2 1 1
ETH - 2 1 0
RUS - 1 0 1
ROU - 1 0 0
KEN - 0 2 1
TUR - 0 1 0
TRI - 0 1 0
USA - 0 0 2
CHN - 0 0 1



results:

10k W - ETH - TUR - USA
100 M - JAM - TRI - USA
mar W- ROU - KEN - CHN
stpl W - RUS - KEN - RUS
100 W - JAM - JAM - JAM
10k M - ETH - ETH - KEN

bobsled - JAMAICA  

Thanks Rudolph,

Interesting that the 2 leading medalist countries are much lower on your list.

I always thought weighting medal tallys according to country population would be a fairer way of doing things; then others would argue they should be weighted according to Gross Domestic Product of the country.

But I like the way you have highlighted the pure running medals.

Funrunner aka Craig

Edited by funrunner63, 18 August 2008 - 08:40 AM.

[undercover brother]

while youre at it can you do one just for horsing as well?

[Rudolf]

undercover brother, on Aug 18 2008, 08:42 AM, said:

while youre at it can you do one just for horsing as well?

like horses vs Ponnies, vs zebras, vs rocking horse ?

[lactatehead]

Good idea Rudolf.
It is much better to focus on running events on a running forum.
I am so sick of all the jingoistic nonsense that has accompanied these olympics so far. I just want to see good competition and I do not really care which country they represent.

[undercover brother]

silly question but doesnt jamaica have 2 silver
didnt the 2 girls jamaican girls tie in the 100m?

[Luckylegs]

undercover brother, on Aug 18 2008, 12:07 PM, said:

silly question but doesnt jamaica have 2 silver
didnt the 2 girls jamaican girls tie in the 100m?

Yes.

[batavia]

Without the under current of sme jingoistic nonsense there most likley not be a games, what would the pure of heart be left watching then.  Seems a small price to pay  

[lactatehead]

batavia, on Aug 17 2008, 08:43 PM, said:

Without the under current of sme jingoistic nonsense there most likley not be a games, what would the pure of heart be left watching then.  Seems a small price to pay  

The pure heart of the olympics is the gladitorial spectacle. We marvel at Usain Bolt and not Jamaica.

[batavia]

lactatehead, on Aug 18 2008, 02:23 PM, said:

The pure heart of the olympics is the gladitorial spectacle. We marvel at Usain Bolt and not Jamaica.

That would seem to make the good folks over on the new "Snowsill Wins Gold Moffat 3rd" forum page looking some what un pure just at the moment.  

Was Snowsill out of line to run with the Flag down the finihsing straight  

Is it not a marvel that Aus can pull far more medals per head of population than say the Americans.  

Its alll good!

[20thCenturyBoy]

Well I suppose in an ideal world countries wouldn't exist and we'd all be "citizens of the world" in one big happy family, but until then...GO AUSSIE!

[funrunner63]

batavia, on Aug 17 2008, 10:52 PM, said:

Is it not a marvel that Aus can pull far more medals per head of population than say the Americans.

And China...Germany and Great Britain for that matter

Funrunner aka Craig

[lactatehead]

We may all feel good when the aussies win but isn`t that because we think that we had something to do with their victory in some delusional way?

[undercover brother]

so have we won anything yet?
keep us posted rudi.
and ... yes

Edited by undercover brother, 18 August 2008 - 04:53 PM.

[blair]

You could just use this although it contains field events as well.

Edited by balri, 18 August 2008 - 05:22 PM.

[Rudolf]

australian internal teaser comp : points 8 for 1st,...1 for 8th


triathlon  = 14 ->>> 1st + 3rd

racewalk = 9 - >>>  3rd + 6th

road cycling = 8 ->> 5th + 6th + 8th

long swim = 7 ->>> 2nd

running : -----------



This statistic is not meant to put Buster under enormous pressure, but if not him, than 4x400m ?

Edited by Rudolf, 18 August 2008 - 06:13 PM.

[batavia]

lactatehead, on Aug 18 2008, 05:21 PM, said:

We may all feel good when the aussies win but isn`t that because we think that we had something to do with their victory in some delusional way?

There are may layerd reasons and they all go in to the same pot.  Sure we have somthing to do it it.   Support and prestige that  we shower on our sporting and other hero's is a factor that movates them, although granted not the only one.  Its doubtful that most would put their life on hold at that level without it.  

I am not an Aussie but it was stilll a sweet thing to see Elise run the home straight with the flag.

[lactatehead]

batavia, on Aug 18 2008, 02:11 AM, said:

I am not an Aussie but it was stilll a sweet thing to see Elise run the home straight with the flag.

I am not an aussie either but I was also very moved when I saw her cross the line. She had every right to wave the flag and so do all of her fans. What I find distasteful is the non stop focus on australians as if all the other great performances are of no interest unless they are big celebrity names.

[Rudolf]

KEN - 2 - 3 - 2
JAM - 2 - 2 - 0
ETH - 2 - 1 - 0
RUS - 1 - 0 - 1
ROU - 1 - 0 - 0

TUR - 0 - 1 - 0
TRI - 0 - 1 - 0
FRA - 0 - 1 - 0

USA - 0 - 0 - 2
CHN - 0 - 0 - 1
MAR - 0 - 0 - 1


results:

10k W - ETH - TUR - USA
100 M - JAM - TRI - USA
mar W- ROU - KEN - CHN
stpl W - RUS - KEN - RUS
100 W - JAM - JAMx2 - --
10k M - ETH - ETH - KEN
stpl M - KEN - FRA - KEN
800 W - KEN - KEN - MAR

bobsled M - JAMAICA
bobsled W - JAMAICA

[Rudolf]

triathlon = 14 ->>> 1st + 3rd

racewalk = 9 - >>> 3rd + 6th

road cycling = 8 ->> 5th + 6th + 8th

long swim = 7 ->>> 2nd

running = 3 ---->>> 6th Youceff

[Jimboy]

Apart from the T&F,as a Pommy/Scouser/Aussie old git I am having a great Olympics watching the medal count .

[Rudolf]

Jimboy, on Aug 19 2008, 04:31 PM, said:

Apart from the T&F,as a Pommy/Scouser/Aussie old git I am having a great Olympics watching the medal count .

Jim, the best position would be to be half Phelps, half Chinesse living in australia with pomm passport  

[Rudolf]

KEN - 2 - 4 - 2
JAM - 2 - 3 - 0
ETH - 2 - 1 - 0
RUS - 1 - 0 - 1
ROU - 1 - 0 - 0
GBR - 1 - 0 - 0
BRN - 1 - 0 - 0

TUR - 0 - 1 - 0
TRI - 0 - 1 - 0
FRA - 0 - 1 - 0

USA - 0 - 0 - 3
CHN - 0 - 0 - 1
MAR - 0 - 0 - 1
NZL - 0 - 0 - 1


results:

10k W - ETH - TUR - USA
100 M - JAM - TRI - USA
mar W- ROU - KEN - CHN
stpl W - RUS - KEN - RUS
100 W - JAM - JAMx2 - --
10k M - ETH - ETH - KEN
stpl M - KEN - FRA - KEN
800 W - KEN - KEN - MAR
400 W - GBR - JAM - USA
1500M - BRN - KEN - NZL

bobsled M - JAMAICA
bobsled W - JAMAICA

[Rudolf]

JAM - 3 - 3 - 0
KEN - 2 - 4 - 2
ETH - 2 - 1 - 0
RUS - 1 - 0 - 1
ROU - 1 - 0 - 0
GBR - 1 - 0 - 0
BRN - 1 - 0 - 0

USA - 0 - 1 - 4
TUR - 0 - 1 - 0
TRI - 0 - 1 - 0
FRA - 0 - 1 - 0

CHN - 0 - 0 - 1
MAR - 0 - 0 - 1
NZL - 0 - 0 - 1


results:

10k W - ETH - TUR - USA
100 M - JAM - TRI - USA
mar W- ROU - KEN - CHN
stpl W - RUS - KEN - RUS
100 W - JAM - JAMx2 - --
10k M - ETH - ETH - KEN
stpl M - KEN - FRA - KEN
800 W - KEN - KEN - MAR
400 W - GBR - JAM - USA
1500M - BRN - KEN - NZL
200 M - JAM - USA - USA

bobsled M - JAMAICA
bobsled W - JAMAICA

[Rudolf]

triathlon = 14 ->>> 1st + 3rd

racewalk = 9 - >>> 3rd + 6th

road cycling = 8 ->> 5th + 6th + 8th

long swim = 8 ->>> 2nd + 8th

running = 3 ---->>> 6th Youceff


updated - 8th place in 10km swimm, unfortunately no ponits for walks or runs
and as the decision was only flat runs (no short hurdless) cant count Sally's fantastic result

fingers crossed for the 50km

[Rudolf]

JAM - 4 - 3 - 1
KEN - 2 - 4 - 2
ETH - 2 - 1 - 0
USA - 1 - 3 - 5
RUS - 1 - 0 - 1
ROU - 1 - 0 - 0
GBR - 1 - 0 - 0
BRN - 1 - 0 - 0

TUR - 0 - 1 - 0
TRI - 0 - 1 - 0
FRA - 0 - 1 - 0

CHN - 0 - 0 - 1
MAR - 0 - 0 - 1
NZL - 0 - 0 - 1


results:

10k W - ETH - TUR - USA
100 M - JAM - TRI - USA
mar W- ROU - KEN - CHN
stpl W - RUS - KEN - RUS
100 W - JAM - JAMx2 - --
10k M - ETH - ETH - KEN
stpl M - KEN - FRA - KEN
800 W - KEN - KEN - MAR
400 W - GBR - JAM - USA
1500M - BRN - KEN - NZL
200 M - JAM - USA - USA
200 W - JAM - USA - JAM
400 M - USA - USA - USA

bobsled M - JAMAICA
bobsled W - JAMAICA

[Rudolf]

racewalk = 16 - >>> 2nd + 3rd + 6th

triathlon = 14 - >>> 1st + 3rd

road cycling = 8 ->> 5th + 6th + 8th

long swim = 8 ->>> 2nd + 8th

running = 3 ---->>> 6th Youceff

[Rudolf]

JAM - 5 - 3 - 1
ETH - 3 - 1 - 1
KEN - 2 - 4 - 2
RUS - 2 - 0 - 1
USA - 1 - 3 - 5
ROU - 1 - 0 - 0
GBR - 1 - 0 - 0
BRN - 1 - 0 - 0

TUR - 0 - 2 - 0
TRI - 0 - 2 - 0
FRA - 0 - 1 - 0
BEL - 0 - 1 - 0

CHN - 0 - 0 - 1
MAR - 0 - 0 - 1
NZL -- 0 - 0 - 1
NGR - 0 - 0 - 1
JPN -- 0 - 0 - 1

results:

10k W - ETH - TUR - USA
100 M - JAM - TRI - USA
mar W- ROU - KEN - CHN
stpl W - RUS - KEN - RUS
100 W - JAM - JAMx2 - --
10k M - ETH - ETH - KEN
stpl M - KEN - FRA - KEN
800 W - KEN - KEN - MAR
400 W - GBR - JAM - USA
1500M - BRN - KEN - NZL
200 M - JAM - USA - USA
200 W - JAM - USA - JAM
400 M - USA - USA - USA
5000W- ETH - TUR - ETH
4x100W-RUS - BEL - NGR
4x100M -JAM - TRI - JPN

I am so tempted not to include 5000mW as it was synchronized jogging

[Rudolf]

JAM - 5 - 3 - 2
KEN - 4 - 5 - 4
ETH - 4 - 1 - 1
USA - 3 - 3 - 5
RUS - 2 - 1 - 2
ROU - 1 - 0 - 0
GBR - 1 - 0 - 0
BRN - 1 - 0 - 0

TUR - 0 - 2 - 0
TRI - 0 - 2 - 0
UKR - 0 - 1 - 1
FRA - 0 - 1 - 0
BEL - 0 - 1 - 0
SUD- 0 - 1 - 0
BAH - 0 - 1 - 0

CHN - 0 - 0 - 1
MAR - 0 - 0 - 1
NZL -- 0 - 0 - 1
NGR - 0 - 0 - 1
JPN -- 0 - 0 - 1

results:

10k W - ETH - TUR - USA
100 M - JAM - TRI - USA
mar W- ROU - KEN - CHN
stpl W - RUS - KEN - RUS
100 W - JAM - JAMx2 - --
10k M - ETH - ETH - KEN
stpl M - KEN - FRA - KEN
800 W - KEN - KEN - MAR
400 W - GBR - JAM - USA
1500M - BRN - KEN - NZL
200 M - JAM - USA - USA
200 W - JAM - USA - JAM
400 M - USA - USA - USA
5000W- ETH - TUR - ETH
4x100W-RUS - BEL - NGR
4x100M -JAM - TRI - JPN
800 M -- KEN - SUD - KEN
1500W - KEN - UKR - UKR
5000M - ETH - KEN - KEN
4x400W-USA - RUS - JAM
4x400M-USA - BAH - RUS

[Rudolf]

racewalk == 16 -------- 2nd + 3rd + 6th

triathlon === 14 ------- 1st + 3rd

road cycling = 8 -------- 5th + 6th + 8th

long swim == 8 --------- 2nd + 8th

running ==== 6 -------- 6th Youceff + 6th 4x400M

[Rudolf]

KEN - 5 - 5 - 4
JAM - 5 - 3 - 2
ETH - 4 - 1 - 2
USA - 3 - 3 - 5
RUS - 2 - 1 - 2
ROU - 1 - 0 - 0
GBR - 1 - 0 - 0
BRN - 1 - 0 - 0

TUR - 0 - 2 - 0
TRI - 0 - 2 - 0
UKR - 0 - 1 - 1
MAR - 0 - 1 - 1
FRA - 0 - 1 - 0
BEL - 0 - 1 - 0
SUD- 0 - 1 - 0
BAH - 0 - 1 - 0

CHN - 0 - 0 - 1
NZL -- 0 - 0 - 1
NGR - 0 - 0 - 1
JPN -- 0 - 0 - 1

results:

100 M - JAM - TRI - USA
100 W - JAM - JAMx2 - --
200 M - JAM - USA - USA
200 W - JAM - USA - JAM
4x100M -JAM - TRI - JPN
4x100W-RUS - BEL - NGR
400 M - USA - USA - USA
400 W - GBR - JAM - USA
4x400W-USA - RUS - JAM
4x400M-USA - BAH - RUS

800 W - KEN - KEN - MAR
800 M -- KEN - SUD - KEN
1500M - BRN - KEN - NZL
1500W - KEN - UKR - UKR
stpl W - RUS - KEN - RUS
stpl M - KEN - FRA - KEN

5000W- ETH - TUR - ETH
5000M - ETH - KEN - KEN
10k M - ETH - ETH - KEN
10k W - ETH - TUR - USA
mar W- ROU - KEN - CHN
mar M - KEN - MAR - ETH