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[NKOTB]

My recent Hm Pb is 1:37:20 so a long way from this goal but this gives me a star to aim for.

New_Kid

[TCMB]

Seems there are many here with the similar goal of cracking:

• 3:30 marathon
  
• 60min C2S
  
• 90min HM
  
• 40min 10km

This group includes me as well. I ran Sydney marathon last year but it took a lot out of me, think I need to concentrate on some shorter distances this year.

McMillan's calculates the goals above easiest to hardest in the order given. I'm hoping to get as much of the spreadsheet in the green by the end of the year. Rows show approx equivalent times for each distance.

Good luck......

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[Maffrew]

TheyCallMeBruce, on 22 April 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:

Seems there are many here with the similar goal of cracking:

• 3:30 marathon
  
• 60min C2S
  
• 90min HM
  
• 40min 10km

This group includes me as well.

I'm in this group too, excluding the marathon anyway as I don't intend to do a marathon anytime soon. I did a 43:14 10km last year, a 60:07 C2S and a 94:48 half. I've had quite a bit of time off already this year due to health problems so i'm not sure if i'll make the 10km and half times, but i'm confident of knocking that 7 seconds off the C2S.

[Lukefrazz]

TheyCallMeBruce, on 22 April 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:

Seems there are many here with the similar goal of cracking:

• 3:30 marathon
  
• 60min C2S
  
• 90min HM
  
• 40min 10km

Apart from the C2S, I'll definitely be joining the club who are trying to hit these goal times. At this stage, the sub 40 minute 10km seems most realistic for me.

Hopefully 2012 is a good year.

[UnfitnessFanatic]

I was in this group last year and managed all bar the marathon as I didn't run one.  There is an interesting topic on here that relates a flat half marathon time vs city to surf and it is pretty consistant across the board that your speed (min/km) in a city to surf should be very close to your speed in a half marathon due to the hills in c2s. Be careful calculating this time on the mcmillan calculator as it wont take in the undulating course as a factor.  Good luck everyone in reaching your 2012 goals

[TCMB]

Thanks UF.

http://www.sctathlet...m/cit_calc.html
Used this based on 10km times to make the C2S prediction.

[NKOTB]

TheyCallMeBruce, on 22 April 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:

Seems there are many here with the similar goal of cracking:

• 3:30 marathon
  
• 60min C2S
  
• 90min HM
  
• 40min 10km

For me this order is right. My ultimate goal is 40min/10km. I am going to just focus more on interval/speed work for the rest of this year.
C2S is hard mainly because of the huge crowd and you get only one shot each year !

New_Kid

[TheFlyingFlea]

I am up for this to!!! have being chasing that 90min HM for two years.................that last 2 to 3mins I am finding hard to get. I am planing at leased 2 HM and then the full marathon in melbourne. So if I can get my half times down under that bloody 90mins I should be able to get my full marathon down. One step at a time.

Our comparison to your C2S is the puffing billy run. This is in a couple of weeks, should be a good test for me, I ran a PB last year not sure how I will go this year, I feel a bit under done. Time will tell.

Good luck to all, keep us updated!

[Lukefrazz]

Hey TFF, I've basically got the same plan as you:
Run Melbourne Half in July
Sandy Point Half in August

Hoping to crack 1:30 in either of these, then it's time to tackle my first Marathon in October.

[UnfitnessFanatic]

TheyCallMeBruce, on 25 April 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

Thanks UF.

http://www.sctathlet...m/cit_calc.html
Used this based on 10km times to make the C2S prediction.

Just to back this up I ran both my first city to surf and half marathon last year.  My avg pace as per nett times from both events was exactly the same avg min/km. (it was the melbourne half marathon btw.)

Edited by UnfitnessFanatic, 26 April 2012 - 08:24 PM.

[lyricnz]

I've love to get a 90 minute half this year, but I've got 5+ minutes to find, and have been out for a month or so due to injuries.  What's the chances?

[TheFlyingFlea]

Lukefrazz, on 26 April 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Hey TFF, I've basically got the same plan as you:
Run Melbourne Half in July
Sandy Point Half in August

Hoping to crack 1:30 in either of these, then it's time to tackle my first Marathon in October.

luke

I ve done both those runs the last two years and they have being great for lead ins. last year I also did the 30km Sri Chinmoy at the end of July, worked well
maybe we will meet each other as we cross the line at 1:29:59

Goodluck with the marathon, have you got a time your aiming for yet?

[Lukefrazz]

Being my first there are so many unknowns so I'd be happy with anything under 3:50, but 3:30 is the big goal.
Hopefully see you at the finish line then!

[adr1an]

Just had a look at the McMillan calculator;

40:00 10k
1:29:00 21.1k
3:07:43 42.2k

Why are the goals to hit the equivalents between 10k and a half marathon, but then put 20+ mins on the goal for the marathon?

Just curious.

[lyricnz]

adr1an, on 27 April 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Just had a look at the McMillan calculator;
40:00 10k 1:29:00 21.1k 3:07:43 42.2k
Why are the goals to hit the equivalents between 10k and a half marathon, but then put 20+ mins on the goal for the marathon? Just curious.

For me, I think the McMillan calculator underestimates the falloff due to my poor endurance   Not that I've got any of these goals yet, of course.  I'm probably 42:30, 1:35 and *cough* 3:38.  More long runs required

[TCMB]

I can't speak for the others, but being pretty new to running it takes a while to build up for an honest marathon if you don't have a good base.
In the last six months I managed 42.52, 1:37 and 3:54.

I went out nice and slow in last year's Sydney running festival marathon and slowed even more at 34km. I entered the marathon because I wanted to run one once in my life and didn't know if I would continue to be a runner (maybe it was just a 6 month hobby). Learnt enough to think that 3:30 is achievable next time. I don't think I'll run a marathon in 2012 but am hopefully I can achieve the other times this year.
Perhaps Canberra 2013 for a sub 3:30, but you're right adr1an. If I've knocked off the other times by then, 3:30 could be a bit of a soft target. Still, need to respect the distance and not leave a big pothole at 34km.

[TheRev]

How's everyone going with their sub 40, 60, 90, 210 goals? Anybody get closer to these goals in the last month?

I might add my name to the list, with the following caveats:
1) My last 3 10km races (all SMCs) I have only knocked off 10 seconds, 9 seconds and 8 seconds. I am now under 41 min (a big high in itself), but I do appear to be reaching an asymptote worringly close to 40min 30sec.
2) Being a Victorian orginally, I have never run the City to Surf, so I have no idea how I'll go on the hills.
3) At the moment my PB for the half marathon is a good 7 min off the 90 min mark. I really quite enjoy the chatting with other runners and soaking up the atmosphere in the half, so it will be quite difficult to push myself outside my comfort zone at these events.
4) I have no desire to run a marathon again any time soon. Or certainly not a road marathon, and I don't fancy my chances of beating 3hrs30 at Mount Solitary or the ilk.

Anyway, it'd be great to hear how the members of this club are finding this challenge - I always find it motivating before tackling another hill session.

[lyricnz]

I've still got the 40/1:30/3:30 goal for the year, as well as a 3660km target, but had 5 weeks off with a broken rib and achilles injury - which has probably put me behind for both of these.  I'm planning on doing an 18 week Pfitzinger plan (from 70/wk start) towards MM.  Anyone else doing same?  Maybe we can compare notes etc?

[TCMB]

Things are going well here. I've spent most of my time on hilly trails. Have started running home once a week, into the bush and following the ridges home. Great 18km run with over 500m of ascending.
Saturday runs with local club have been enjoyable, I try and have these as my tempo runs as they start slow and then can push a bit harder to stay with a good group of runners.

First flat time trial was a 42:52 but four weeks later I managed a 40:49 on the hilly 10km course. I'm hopeful I can go under 40 next one in two weeks and perhaps even a low 39. Am looking at the Bay to Bay HM in June to have a go at <90min. Baring any injuries I should be well on track for a good C2S.

I haven't done any interval training yet, so hopefully further room for improvement there.

[adr1an]

lyricnz, on 11 May 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

I've still got the 40/1:30/3:30 goal for the year, as well as a 3660km target, but had 5 weeks off with a broken rib and achilles injury - which has probably put me behind for both of these.  I'm planning on doing an 18 week Pfitzinger plan (from 70/wk start) towards MM.  Anyone else doing same?  Maybe we can compare notes etc?

lyricnz - I'm basically the same: sub 40min 10k, sub 90min half mara, but I'm ambitiously targeting a 3:10 marathon... I ran a debut 3:31 marathon at Sydney in the heat last year with a shocking year of training (my first 'real' tilt at running). I'm using the Pfitiznger 18week plan for Sydney this year. In March I started the up to 88km plan to start base building - i'm basically following that plan for 10 weeks before starting the 18 week plan up to 114km per week, which starts next week (so essentially two endurance mesocycles). Missed one week because of illness. The fun bit is when you hit a 23km mid week run.

Last year I ran a 1:37 21.1km solo about two weeks before the marathon which is why I think that if one is capable of a 1:29:xx half marathon you should definitely be able to go at least 3:20 in the marathon.  

Will be doing SMH half on May 20 so might report back here. I'm not in shape at this point to go 90min and won't be tapering, hopefully around 95mins.

Look forward to seeing how everyone progresses!

[Seano]

adr1an, on 27 April 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Just had a look at the McMillan calculator;

40:00 10k
1:29:00 21.1k
3:07:43 42.2k

Why are the goals to hit the equivalents between 10k and a half marathon, but then put 20+ mins on the goal for the marathon?

Just curious.

This peaked my curiosity as well, as I had/have goals of 40, 90 & 3.15
Roughly,
3.30(mara) at Gold coast last year would finish ahead of 81.88% of the field.
1.30.00 (1/2)  would have put you ahead of 95.63%.
40min (10k) puts you ahead of 97.07% of field.

Around 3.10 in mara would put you in top 5% so seems about equivalent in terms of mcmillan.

3.10 seems a lot further away for me than 90 min half though!
Maybe training for longer distance just takes longer.

I know I've run a lot more halfs than fulls, & the lead up & recovery are shorter.

I've runa 1.32.xx in twilight half this year, which is not easiest race, so may give it a crack this year..
It has just occurred to me that to beat 90 mins this year, I'll actually have to find & enter a race of this distance!

Anyway, best of luck one & all pursuing the goal.

[lyricnz]

adr1an, on 11 May 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

lyricnz - I'm basically the same: sub 40min 10k, sub 90min half mara, but I'm ambitiously targeting a 3:10 marathon... I ran a debut 3:31 marathon at Sydney in the heat last year with a shocking year of training (my first 'real' tilt at running). I'm using the Pfitiznger 18week plan for Sydney this year. In March I started the up to 88km plan to start base building - i'm basically following that plan for 10 weeks before starting the 18 week plan up to 114km per week, which starts next week (so essentially two endurance mesocycles). Missed one week because of illness. The fun bit is when you hit a 23km mid week run.

Great! it sounds like we've got similar aims, though realistically i think a 3:20 is much more likely than a 3:10 for me!  My key race is October 14, so I don't start the 18 week plan until 10 June, so right now just building my weekly totals back up again after the layoff. Looks like it'll be 4x15km runs this week (had three races in previous two weekends, so taking it extra slow).  Got a marathon next weekend, so will probably have a softish week again.

Let's keep in touch, exchange notes etc. FWIW, I have absolutely no experience/knowledge in cross training, and have only been running 18 months, so still have lots to learn!  (and weight to loose, hahahaha)

Simon

[lyricnz]

PS: hoping to knock the 90 min HM off the list at Run Melbourne on 15 July, otherwise there's another in August, and another in September. No problem!

[Lukefrazz]

lyricnz, on 11 May 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

PS: hoping to knock the 90 min HM off the list at Run Melbourne on 15 July, otherwise there's another in August, and another in September. No problem!

That makes two of us!

In answer to the query about 3:30 not being equivalent, I've always looked at it along the lines of 10k/half being somewhat limited by your speed, whereas a marathon has the added difficulty of requiring both speed and endurance. For many new runners like myself, I find that the improvement in speed generally comes before gains in endurance which means that the 10k and half goals of 40/90 minutes are achieved sooner.

Edited by Lukefrazz, 12 May 2012 - 08:27 AM.

[lyricnz]

Whereas I seem to have "natural" endurance, but no speed. To be honest, I'm not doing any speed work either

[adr1an]

lyricnz, on 11 May 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

adr1an, on 11 May 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

lyricnz - I'm basically the same: sub 40min 10k, sub 90min half mara, but I'm ambitiously targeting a 3:10 marathon... I ran a debut 3:31 marathon at Sydney in the heat last year with a shocking year of training (my first 'real' tilt at running). I'm using the Pfitiznger 18week plan for Sydney this year. In March I started the up to 88km plan to start base building - i'm basically following that plan for 10 weeks before starting the 18 week plan up to 114km per week, which starts next week (so essentially two endurance mesocycles). Missed one week because of illness. The fun bit is when you hit a 23km mid week run.

Great! it sounds like we've got similar aims, though realistically i think a 3:20 is much more likely than a 3:10 for me!  My key race is October 14, so I don't start the 18 week plan until 10 June, so right now just building my weekly totals back up again after the layoff. Looks like it'll be 4x15km runs this week (had three races in previous two weekends, so taking it extra slow).  Got a marathon next weekend, so will probably have a softish week again.

Let's keep in touch, exchange notes etc. FWIW, I have absolutely no experience/knowledge in cross training, and have only been running 18 months, so still have lots to learn!  (and weight to loose, hahahaha)

Simon

Yea - good to see someone out there with similiar aims and training!

Running has never come easy to me. The only thing I've got going is I'm naturally thin. Doesn't mean I couldn't stand to lose a bit of fat around the gut though. So far the endurance build up has been good. Have gone from about 50k a week up to 90k last week. I'm a touch apprehensive (scared) when I look at some of the peak weeks where its wednesday 24k, friday 21k, sunday 26k with 19k at race pace. But by the time I'm there I should be ready.

[lyricnz]

Hoping I can stick with you there, adr1an - it looks like you're 5+ years younger than me   But before I moved offices I was doing 21km 3 mornings a week, so the peak mornings part should be okay.

FWIW, I never did any sport at all, since I was probably 13 (just motorcycle racing, and the odd bit of mountain-biking with my friends).  By September 2010, I was 110kg and figured I needed to sort out my health, or I wouldn't be around long enough to see my kids grow up. Did a boot camp at the gym, then in the 6 weeks between that camp and the next, ran a bit with my "camp mates".  Run-walk 3km to start with, then 5, then 8. Entered my first 10km fun-runs in November and December, then a HM at the end of December. I was hooked! Since then, 28 events, including 2 marathons (another next weekend).  Loving it! But always a learning process.

Edited by lyricnz, 12 May 2012 - 04:49 PM.

[af15]

If this has morphed from "sub-90 HM club" to "40/60/90/210 club", is there room for one more to hop on?

Next one up for me is (first) full marathon at GCM. But this being the half marathon forum, my thoughts on the sub-90 HM are;

• My first HM was ~96 minutes. Anyone in that time, or thereabouts - you are within striking distance. Go for it!
  
• Intervals. Painful, and hateful...but worth it
  
• Entering a HM as a lead-up race whilst training for a full marathon, and making the sub-90 attempt at that HM, seemed to work for me.

As for the rest, sub-40 10km (a little too fast for a little too long) and sub-60 C2S (HM pace but with hills) seem tougher than sub-90 HM imo. As a first-timer, not qualified to comment on the marathon...but I've heard enough to be scared!!

Good luck to all
It's good to have company chasing these elusive goals around.

[Slug]

Hey guys

I'm also in the sub-90/sub-3:30 dream club. Not much of a 10k specialist, so sub-40 not on my agenda.

Personal best for half is 91:32 and 3:36 for marathon. Both times are soft in my opinion, but I probably think I'm better than I am.

Got the Sydney Morning Herald Half next weekend, but realistically think a sub-95 is realistic given where I'm at in the training cycle. Although I'm going to give it a nudge, glory or bust.

Just did my first back to back 80k weeks which is a first for the year, training has been very inconsistent to date, but happy to be back in the groove.

Sydney Marathon is the target race of the year, sub-3:30 should be doable if I keep the training consistent and hard.

I hope we all hit our goals either in 2012 or beyond!

[TCMB]

Welcome aboard Rev, af15 and Slug.
How long have you been at Katoomba Rev? Surely you're no stranger to hills by now....

I've found the same as Luke, that the speed has come on quicker than the endurance. Probably because of the training to date. I came back from a knee injury at start of the year, so still building back up and haven't really started the long (>25km) weekly runs yet.

Good luck to those running next weekend. I'm the babysitter while the better half runs that one.

[TheRev]

TheyCallMeBruce, on 13 May 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

Welcome aboard Rev, af15 and Slug.
How long have you been at Katoomba Rev? Surely you're no stranger to hills by now....

I've found the same as Luke, that the speed has come on quicker than the endurance. Probably because of the training to date. I came back from a knee injury at start of the year, so still building back up and haven't really started the long (>25km) weekly runs yet.

Good luck to those running next weekend. I'm the babysitter while the better half runs that one.

I have been up here for almost a year now, Bruce, so I should be getting used to the hills. But... I started my "running life" in the pancake-esque inner north of Melbourne, then found an even flatter city to live in in Townsville, and then managed to move to the yet-less-undulating Hanoi. The logical progression would have been to move to Holland, I suppose, but instead I chose Katoomba, and many days my legs still remind me how unhappy they are of that choice.

And I reckon you chose a good HM to baby-sit for - from all accounts it's a hilly sod, and clogged to boot (no pun intended - seriously), so not ideal for an assault on 1:30, but if any of us achieves it they'll get extra kudos. Personally I'm planning to run that HM and then the Glow-worm half a fortnight later as solid pace training long runs and just enjoy the day. But I'm hoping to find a reasonably flat 10k on the 26/27th of May to give the sub 40 another crack.

Any NSWelshans doing a 10k that weekend?

Edited by TheRev, 13 May 2012 - 03:02 PM.

[NKOTB]

Geez,
  Great to see lots of interest lately. I am now recovered from Canberra marathon and started doing hill work and speed/interval work
for late July HM, C2S, and then the Sept Canberra 10k, all on the space of about 5 weeks.


New_Kid

[adr1an]

Did the SMH Half last weekend. 93:25

Did this just off the back of building my fitness and endurance. Couple of interesting things; the second 10k split was about 50sec quicker than the first 10k. The first 10k had about 4k of downhill and the second about 5k of uphill. I was carrying a niggle going in, it held up through the race, but pulled up really badly so have taken this week off running completely.

I think with an increase in fitness (obviously) and a bit of speed work and some consistency I might go sub-90.

LyricNZ, I've modified the Pfitzinger plan so it sits sort of half way between the 88km and 114km plans. Don't think I'm quite ready for some of the big weeks yet.

[TCMB]

Sounds like a good run adr1an, you should be right for sub 90 in September with so much time to make the improvements. Are you coming up to Gosford to run the Bay2Bay?

Something must be working right with my training. Just knocked a touch more than 2 minutes of the 10km time with a 38:20 this morning
Was feeling in good form and went out faster than planned at the start and ran pretty much even splits the whole way.

Just looked up McMillan and was pretty shocked to see a 2:59:54 marathon prediction
Obviously not even close to that sort of marathon form but what has never even been considered may actually be possible one day??

Edited by TheyCallMeBruce, 26 May 2012 - 10:57 AM.

[NKOTB]

TheyCallMeBruce, on 26 May 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

Something must be working right with my training. Just knocked a touch more than 2 minutes of the 10km time with a 38:20 this morning
Was feeling in good form and went out faster than planned at the start and ran pretty much even splits the whole way.

Well done Bruce ! Ought to be feeling on top of the world. I an envious. So what did it for you ?

New_Kid.

[adr1an]

Mate - 38:20! That's awesome

SMH was good - felt pretty comfortable throughout until the last sharp incline about 1k out. I won't be up the coast unfortunately, but I expect you to destroy the sub 90.

McMillan is cool, my 5k time from last year puts me at around 3:03. I like to think that with the right training I'll one day get sub 3 - thats ultimate goal for me really. Have to survive this year first...

[TCMB]

NKOTB, on 26 May 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

So what did it for you ?

My first proper block of uninterrupted running has been the most useful. Last 8 weeks have all been over 40km. Sitting around 65km a week now and will keep at that level. Feel like my aerobic base has improved a lot. Last year I was running all sorts of different mileage weeks which probably contributed to an injury.

I'm enjoying all my running especially out on bush trails. Lots of hills, sometimes at a slow pace other times a bit harder. Have done two interval sessions so far (5x1km @3:50 with 3:50 rests), probably not enough time for these to help yet, but they got me in the right headspace to be comfortable running at that pace.

Will keep trying to do one of these a week now, maybe speed up to 3:40min/km. For such a short session they really feel like quality training.
Yesterday was made easier by having a couple of other guys going the same pace over the 10km, much easier running with others to pull you along.

[NKOTB]

TheyCallMeBruce, on 27 May 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

NKOTB, on 26 May 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

So what did it for you ?

I'm enjoying all my running especially out on bush trails. Lots of hills, sometimes at a slow pace other times a bit harder. Have done two interval sessions so far (5x1km @3:50 with 3:50 rests), probably not enough time for these to help yet, but they got me in the right headspace to be comfortable running at that pace.

I am going to run more hills (already in progress), and some interval training in the lead up to C2S. I just find that I am more subceptable to niggles/injury when doing speed work so have not been keen on them.

New_Kid

[TheRev]

adr1an, on 25 May 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

Did the SMH Half last weekend. 93:25

TheyCallMeBruce, on 26 May 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

Sounds like a good run adr1an, you should be right for sub 90 in September with so much time to make the improvements. Are you coming up to Gosford to run the Bay2Bay?

Something must be working right with my training. Just knocked a touch more than 2 minutes of the 10km time with a 38:20 this morning

Excellent work, Bruce and Adr1an. Bruce, I believe you are the first one to break through any of the 210/90/60/40 barriers, so you are now the official guru for the rest of us, at least on the sub-40 10km. It's especially impressive seeing as you only started doing intervals a couple of weeks ago - I've been doing intervals all year and I'm no-where near that mark. No accounting for talent, I suppose.

Anyway, my update - did the SMH and managed to shave another minute off my Canberra time, so only another 6 to go, but I still think that is a target for next year. Then on the weekend did the bankstown head of the lake, and was pretty much on 4min pace after 9.75kms, so gives me hope that if I just improve my fitness a little (easier said than done) and get used to that pain in the last k or 2 and push through it, then I can get an official sub-40 in one of two races before the C2S.

[lyricnz]

I managed to fluke a 3:30 marathon split at GOR just over a week ago, so that's one of my three pace-related goals for the year. Next will be the 90 HM - with 3-4 on the cards for this year. Need to work on speed, I seem to have just one gear!

[TCMB]

lyricnz, on 28 May 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

GOR split 3:29:51

Another one with a win! Geez you cut it close, did you know you were just on track as you went over the mat??

[lyricnz]

I thought I'd just missed it! I saw the timing line, and legged it a bit, but as I crossed it was reading 3:30:35 - so I was a bit annoyed to have missed by so little (but, to be honest, I didn't think it was on at all, given the hills).  Only when the official times came out, I saw a sub-3:30.  I must have gained a minute or so from the net-start and perhaps the timing mat clock wasn't entirely in sync with the start clock. So so so so happy.

[TopEndChick]

Jumping aboard the 40/60/90/210 bus...
The 10km not sure how I'll go as we don't have any 10km races up here.. Could only try in training.

C2S - got through in 59:23 this morning. Pretty happy considering I have a cold, 2weeks out from GOR and bitten by a dog 2days ago!

Half- previous time of 1:38 (July 2011) so a bit to wipe off.. Race up here end July.

Mara- MM in October. 3:33 last year, ran 3:35 split at GOR so thinking a 3:20 (?) would be possible if the stars align...

Keep the updates coming!

[HalfaJess]

Yeah I'm jumping aboard too!

Haven't done a 10k race but SMH half 10k split was 42:24..

City2Surf PB 62:28 (might be pushing my luck..)

HM PB: 93:13 (pacing is defiantly an issue..)

First attempt at a marathon will be Sept 2012..

Wishful thinking after writing my PB's down.. Age is probably the only thing on my side!

[NKOTB]

Welcome aboard Topendchick & HalfaJess. For me I hoping for a 90/60/40  having done a 3:29 in this year Canberra marathon.
My schedule is the City2Surf (already entered in the Red group), then a local HM 3 weeks later, then a 10km race a week later.
From my perspective, my best chance is the C2S , I have always find it hard to improve my speed.

New_Kid

[Quinkin]

Well I have done 10km sub 40 X 3 (39:17, 39:22, 39:31), and sub 90 21.1km x 4 (87:59, 88:13, 88:54, 89:20)

My first Full Marathon is in September. The goal is to finish, not so much do a time. However, 3:20 sounds about right.

[TheRev]

Just a little story to inspire all us aspiring sub 40/60/90/210ers.

A runner - let's call him say, oh, "Bruce" - set out to break 40/60/90/210. A mere 2 weeks after starting up interval training, he smashed the 40 min barrier with a 38:20, and then the following week ran an extended half marathon with a field of 130 other well-trained athletes, on a cool and damp Sunday morning. He wasn't planning on running it too hard (being his first official half marathon), so he just cruised in for a PODIUM FINISH, picking himself up a nice little prize on the way.

Incredible. Well done, Bruce - but remind me never to let you pace a race for me.

[TCMB]

What are you talking about Rev?
A best time of 1:48 makes me slower than almost everyone posting in this thread  

I definitely had a good day out yesterday, felt strong the whole way up the hill then let go and hung on for the return. Training had been perfect for that race, with so many hours spent running up and down bush tracks aound here. Was great to catch up with you and Flyingphill, who ran a great marathon.
Hope your legs are feeling good, mine are sore but will be ready to go again tomorrow.

I'm eagerly awaiting the Bay2Bay now and have to think about what pace to stick to. Will see how I feel on the morning but am thinking it will be quicker than 89 minutes.

Good to see some new girls get on board (Jess & TopEndChick). Hope everyone is enjoying their training and making improvements.

[HalfaJess]

What run did Bruce smash yesterday?

Training isn't going so great, my throat and lungs seem to dislike cool air in the morning so have been finding it difficult to breathe and it's not that cold yet.. Hoping my body gets used to it. Training runs have been a tad slower the past week or so.. Any tips for cold air? My arms and legs aren't cold!

[Neek1]

I'll join the club too!  Though I'm not sure about the full marathon, my dodgy knees may struggle with the distance.

I finally cleared the 90 minute goal in the SMH the other week, After about 10 years of trying.  Interval training helps heaps.  Gold Coast Half is next up & then C2S (64 min last year, bit of work to do).

All the best with everyone getting to their goals!