2012 Canberra Marathon- Suitable For A Newbie?
#1
Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:07 PM
I would like to run a marathon in 2012, and Canberra looks like it's far enough away in time for me to get ready; and it will hopefully be nice and cool?
Recently I have read a few articles elsewhere and threads in which slow or new marathoners have been blamed for ruining events- I don't want to ruin an event! I'm not training for a marathon because it's on my "bucket list", I'm doing it because I want to become a better and better runner... and it's a goal to work towards. I hope it will be the first of many. Anyway- what's the feeling here, would it be ok for someone (moi) to choose Canberra as a first marathon? I will be doing some 10 k and half marathons closer to home in the months between. Is the fact that I would be ecstatically happy to finish in under 5 hours something that will enrage people? I don't want to enrage people!
I am an isolated novice so I really have no idea except "running running just keep running" (and the many books I'm reading). Thanks for any responses and your patience :-).
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#2
Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:43 PM
Train wisely, test yourself with some long runs in the process.
Plenty of marathon training plans freely available online - chose one as a basic structure will help.
Go for it.
#3
Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:47 PM
halfwaydown, on 01 November 2011 - 02:43 PM, said:
Train wisely, test yourself with some long runs in the process.
Plenty of marathon training plans freely available online - chose one as a basic structure will help.
Go for it.
#4
Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:47 PM
I haven't read the threads you are talking about irt novices 'ruining' events. But my feeling is that everyone whose ever run a marathon had to run a first somewhere. Just because runners get better, they shouldn't diminish the efforts or opportunities of beginners.
Many, many people finished in more than 5hrs in 2011. I hope you find the Canberra running community to be as fabulous as I do.
Good luck with your training
#5
Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:52 PM
runningdeb, on 01 November 2011 - 02:47 PM, said:
I haven't read the threads you are talking about irt novices 'ruining' events. But my feeling is that everyone whose ever run a marathon had to run a first somewhere. Just because runners get better, they shouldn't diminish the efforts or opportunities of beginners.
Many, many people finished in more than 5hrs in 2011. I hope you find the Canberra running community to be as fabulous as I do.
Good luck with your training
not so much threads here (althought I do recall one where people were grumbling about fun runners spoiling a local half-marathon by cluttering up the place)
- it was more the articles I turned up last night when I realised that as my current pace, I would take SEVEN HOURS to run a marathon. That's all running. I googled "7 hour marathon" and came up with LOTS of controversy over the issue. I never thought about it before- why would anyone care about me running BEHIND them? But apparently some do! Anyway I needed some validation :-). Good luck to us!
#6
Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:09 PM
A five hour finish is fine. That will not enrage people although I am not sure where that comes from. By far the majority of runners do not judge another runner by the time they run but rather encourage each other for doing the distance. There is respect for doing the distance - time is and should be a important but nit signifcant element of 'competing'.
You need to find a program that suits your lifestyle and circumstances. Train regualarly and increase the distance slowly. Be patient with teh progress so as to avoid and injury that will require time off.
Do not think about speed - just concentrate on running nice and steady and as far as the profream says. Do not rush it and you will be as fit as you can for the start. What that means as regards time - well it will result in you finishing in the best possible time because you have trained as best you can.
To complete a marathon is a wonderful experience but what is more important is to give it the respect it needs and dedicate yourself happily to months of training. That can be lonely and at times frustrating but that is charcter building - preparing you for what you will need on the day.
#7
Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:13 PM
Eagle, on 01 November 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:
To complete a marathon is a wonderful experience but what is more important is to give it the respect it needs and dedicate yourself happily to months of training. That can be lonely and at times frustrating but that is charcter building - preparing you for what you will need on the day.
Thanks! I'm excited about the training. I know I shouldn't need permission to compete (even typing the c word makes me cringe a little!) but now I feel like I have it!
#8
Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:15 PM
Canberra is a good choice for debut marathon. Usually good running weather, largish field without being or too chaotic or intimidating.
I'm not sure of the cut-off times regarding road closures. You may wish to check that out on the race website.
#9
Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:16 PM
#10
Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:21 PM
#11
Posted 01 November 2011 - 07:02 PM
I ran my first marathon this year, based on this...you have plenty of time to get prepared to finish Canberra. I used the 16 week beginners program from the Gold Coast Marathon, availlable on their website, and it did the trick, I got over the line around 4.30 ish...but who cares, I finished...! It was a magnificent feeling that has me hooked. I have done another since then.
There is a difference between finishing and racing. My suggestion would be to have a goal "to finish" and be diligent in following a program and following a good lifestyle. There is an amazing weath of information on this site and some of the best people you can ever listen to and then meet.
I have had nothing but encouragement in my 2 marathons from other runners, even the really fast ones. I want to pass onto you the encouragement I got...
I am sure you will be capable of achieving far more than you ever thought...just like many of us.
Best wishes.
PS: I will be running in Canberra too!
#12
Posted 01 November 2011 - 07:15 PM
taueret, on 01 November 2011 - 03:21 PM, said:
At 10:00am runners who have not reached the 28km mark will be diverted off the road and on to an alternative bike course to complete the marathon. Race organisers reserve the right to declare the race over at 1:30pm (6.5 hours after the start).
Under 5 hours is a great goal for a first marathon. I did my first in 4:55:45!
Completely dismiss the worry about spoiling the race for others if you are a bit slower. The only thing I can think that might annoy others is if you lined up at the front of the pack and started slowly.
The only 'negatives' to making Canberra your first is that it might not have the atmosphere that the Gold Coast has (the crowd support just wont be the same) and the course involves a couple of laps of the same road (which I think is going to be a bit boring). Oh ... and the medal was a bit ordinary last year.
Don't worry about speed in your training ... just get used to going for hours!
All the best!!
Edited by BlueZed, 01 November 2011 - 07:16 PM.
#13
Posted 01 November 2011 - 07:44 PM
You never know-if retirement is good for my running may even see you there....
#14
Posted 01 November 2011 - 08:07 PM
#15
Posted 01 November 2011 - 08:09 PM
#16
Posted 01 November 2011 - 08:39 PM
Canberra's great for the speedy and the not-so-speedy, and I think it'd be a good one for a first-timer.
Great supporters, cool weather and a good course always make for a good weekend.
Good luck Taueret! Train well, try to do a couple of half marathons in the lead up, don't get too nervous and remember you'll find an answer to most of your questions here on Coolrunning.
#17
Posted 02 November 2011 - 05:47 AM
#18
Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:39 AM
Great work on dedicating yourself to your 1st full marathon for a start! It's a big decision and not one the majority of the poplulation make...so, no matter what your time is, you are better off than the ones not doing it
I too am thinking about Canberra as my 1st full marathon, tossing up between Canberra and Williamstown (Melb) in May. I have a friend living in Canberra and she wants to do her 1st half, so, thinking maybe Canberra it will be.
And great to hear so much positive thoughts on here about Canberra as well
#19
Posted 02 November 2011 - 10:11 AM
Good on you for making the decision to run your first marathon! How exciting
I too am giving some thought to entering the Canberra 2012 marathon...This would be my first attempt at the Marathon distance and I havent told anyone I am considering it yet as I am almost too scared to admit it aloud!
I am a Canberra local and have run several half-marathons here, including the one as part of this event in 2011. I remember thinking " thank goodness I am only running the half" at about the 16km mark as we turned for home and the marathoners kept on going
I do alot of my running around that area and it is a lovely place to run, pretty flat overall and some nice landmarks and scenery to distract you enough to enjoy the experience a little more. It is not a huge event in terms of participants or spectators, (weather dependant!), but big enough to get the vibe of an exciting event!
Best of luck with all your training and hope to see you there (full or half for me TBA).
Edited by MsYurtle, 02 November 2011 - 10:16 AM.
#20
Posted 02 November 2011 - 11:15 AM
MsYurtle, on 02 November 2011 - 10:11 AM, said:
Ha! I thought exactly the same thing when the marshall was calling out: "Half marathon turn here ... marathon keep going straight".
If you are entered in the marathon you won't get the same feeling at that point. It is the same effect I have experienced when I did a 29k run and felt better passing 27k where the Sunday before I found 27k difficult. The brain sort of rations out the energy expectation for the distance you know you are running on the day. Mark Fitzgerald describes this mechanisim in his book "Brain Training for Runners" but I cannot recall what it is called; begins with 'tele'.
Do the full MsYurtle!
#21
Posted 02 November 2011 - 03:27 PM
BlueZed, on 02 November 2011 - 11:15 AM, said:
If you are entered in the marathon you won't get the same feeling at that point. It is the same effect I have experienced when I did a 29k run and felt better passing 27k where the Sunday before I found 27k difficult. The brain sort of rations out the energy expectation for the distance you know you are running on the day. Mark Fitzgerald describes this mechanisim in his book "Brain Training for Runners" but I cannot recall what it is called; begins with 'tele'.
Do the full MsYurtle!
Thanks for the encouragement BlueZed. I must admit my real thoughts at the turning point during the half were a little more colourful than my previously quoted "thank goodness.."
Sorry for the temporary hijacking of your post Taueret, over to you!
Edited by MsYurtle, 02 November 2011 - 03:29 PM.
#22
Posted 02 November 2011 - 03:36 PM
MsYurtle, on 02 November 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:
Sorry for the temporary hijacking of your post Taueret, over to you!
#23
Posted 02 November 2011 - 05:31 PM
BlueZed, on 02 November 2011 - 11:15 AM, said:
TELEOANTICIPATION!
"Running pace, however, is truly controlled by a type of subconscious brain calculation called teleoanticipation. When you start a race or other maximum-effort run, your brain calculates the maximum pace you can sustain over the planned running distance based on certain measures of your fitness level, past experience, the air temperature, and other factors, and helps to guide you towards the appropriate pace by producing feelings of comfort and discomfort."
Brain Training for Runners - Matt Fitzgerald pg 4
I like to think it explains why my morning 10k runs are never 'a breeze'.
taueret, on 02 November 2011 - 03:36 PM, said:
#24
Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:01 PM
BlueZed, on 02 November 2011 - 05:31 PM, said:
"Running pace, however, is truly controlled by a type of subconscious brain calculation called teleoanticipation. When you start a race or other maximum-effort run, your brain calculates the maximum pace you can sustain over the planned running distance based on certain measures of your fitness level, past experience, the air temperature, and other factors, and helps to guide you towards the appropriate pace by producing feelings of comfort and discomfort."
Brain Training for Runners - Matt Fitzgerald pg 4
I like to think it explains why my morning 10k runs are never 'a breeze'.
Three great things: running, talking about running, reading about running.
Ok I'm going to have to see if Amazon have that ^^ as a Kindle title- I am dying to learn whether that's evidence-based or woo.
Speaking of reading, what besides these forums do you guys like to read, running and related?
#25
Posted 02 November 2011 - 10:33 PM
BlueZed, on 02 November 2011 - 05:31 PM, said:
"Running pace, however, is truly controlled by a type of subconscious brain calculation called teleoanticipation. When you start a race or other maximum-effort run, your brain calculates the maximum pace you can sustain over the planned running distance based on certain measures of your fitness level, past experience, the air temperature, and other factors, and helps to guide you towards the appropriate pace by producing feelings of comfort and discomfort."
Brain Training for Runners - Matt Fitzgerald pg 4
Ahhh, but then there's the problem of knowing when to tell your subconscious brain to shut the hell up so you can really test your limits. (But yes, sometimes it turns out the brain was correct and you should have listened!).
#26
Posted 03 November 2011 - 05:06 AM
Whippet gal, on 02 November 2011 - 10:33 PM, said:
Its a theory I have know about for a long while. I think it is relevant to know it exits and then do what Whippet says and then try to have some positive input to what you are doing while running instead of the kind of automatic response this theory suggests. A good topic for another thread. I do believe the theory has some relevance because it may set the pace at 'comfort level' and if you want to go quicker you have to accept you will be out of your comfort zone.
As Whippet says that might work sometimes and sometimes your fitness is not up to the sustained running beyond the comfort zone and the slow down happens. At other times your fitness level holds and you have a great run.
#27
Posted 03 November 2011 - 11:08 AM
What I have learned from running in the 4 years is it's not about the time you get at the finish it is about what you take out of it. It won't always be your best time but circumstances and situations may make it your best run ever. I say go for it and enjoy it. Put in your long runs and you will start knowing that no matter what you will finish, your finishers medal will be your gold medal no matter what your time is.
#28
Posted 03 November 2011 - 11:33 AM
Whippet gal, on 02 November 2011 - 10:33 PM, said:
Back to Canberra Marathon. I have tried to enter online but it requires me to select a charity for fundraising. Will this be a requirement for entry this year?
#30
Posted 03 November 2011 - 06:36 PM
MsYurtle, on 02 November 2011 - 10:11 AM, said:
#31
Posted 03 November 2011 - 09:54 PM
#32
Posted 04 November 2011 - 06:22 AM
taueret, on 03 November 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:
Central Coast (The Entrance) on 27 Nov and Capital Summer Fest (Canberra) 28 Jan
#34
Posted 04 November 2011 - 12:25 PM
#35
Posted 04 November 2011 - 12:36 PM
taueret, on 03 November 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:
Have you checked out SMC (Sydney Marathon Clinic)? The monthly runs are specifically to build up for a marathon. They are 21km for the first few months and then go to 25km & 30km and back to 21km.
I am a very slow runner and always will be (think I missed out on the fast twitch muscles when God was handing them out) but have never had anything but huge encouragement from all the other runners wherever I have run.
#36
Posted 04 November 2011 - 01:27 PM
KiwiShazza, on 04 November 2011 - 12:36 PM, said:
I am a very slow runner and always will be (think I missed out on the fast twitch muscles when God was handing them out) but have never had anything but huge encouragement from all the other runners wherever I have run.
Not just any marathon but the Series is for the marathoners directed at the Canberra marathon. The sequencing of the increase in long runs is aimed at peaking for Canberra. We also focus on the M7 in July.
#37
Posted 04 November 2011 - 04:32 PM
Eagle, on 01 November 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:
To complete a marathon is a wonderful experience but what is more important is to give it the respect it needs and dedicate yourself happily to months of training.
Very wise words Eagle. I have read many motivational books for both work and running, but your few words capture the mystique of the Marathon.
For those running the first Marathon in Canberra 2012, may it be the start of not just happily training for months, but for years. Canberra is a special Marathon, the atmosphere of the day will last with you for awhile and you will be keen to get back again the following year. The crowd support is very good, but the out and back multiple course means you can see family and friends a few times as well, plus encouragement from the other runners.
For first time runners try and stay a minimum 2 nights, Saturday to prepare, then Sunday to celebrate. Then on Monday, before leaving Canberra, go back to the start line, not filled with thousands of runners and spectators, but just you, remembering 2012 and dreaming of 2013.
#38
Posted 04 November 2011 - 08:11 PM
Great memories of my 1st. Even in the rain there were still people cheering from the highway overpasses, road sides etc. Autumn leaves around parliament house as you go into the 2nd loop of the run out to Black Mountain.
I just ran to finish ,no time in mind. Every runner was really nice and had nothing but encouragement for my slow self as they went by.
I really hope you take the plunge. It's a great experience and you do become hooked. Did 2 more this year and I'm signed on for Hobart in January 2012. So I guess when the marathon bug bites it bites hard:)
Note to self to not jump in a car for a 2hr drive back to Sth Highlands straight after the marathon. Cramping and walking funny around petrol stations is unfun.
I'm bib# 00067 for Canberra 2012
#39
Posted 04 November 2011 - 09:35 PM
#40
Posted 07 November 2011 - 12:06 PM
Any time under 3 hours would be excellent for me.
#41
Posted 07 November 2011 - 05:59 PM
Unlike BlueZed's advice, I think I will just quietly plod along with my training and do it undercover from my running friends! lol
You see, I said out loud and registered for this year's Melb Marathon then got an injury and missed the marathon
So, as to not jinx myself with another injury (which I am still recovering from!) I think I will train in secret, lol
Looking forward to hearing how training for this event goes for you all and looking forward to sharing the experience of what will hopefully be my 1st full marathon
#42
Posted 07 November 2011 - 07:00 PM
#43
Posted 07 November 2011 - 08:13 PM
#45
Posted 08 November 2011 - 09:32 AM
BlueZed, on 03 November 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:
A bit lost, despite much reading and research! I am certainly in no danger of being fast but would like to do it well for me, whatever that is! Thinking of maybe commencing training and seeing how the body holds together, how training fits into everyday family life etc and then making the call on distance?
Sounds like a cop out doesnt it?
#46
Posted 08 November 2011 - 11:35 AM
I only ran the half marathon in Canberra last year but the small part of the course I missed is flat; no problem. If Sydney this year had been my first marathon I believe I would never have done another; the heat and Pyrmont was just awful. If I was to rate courses for best '1st marathons' it would be Gold Coast, Melbourne and Canberra; purely on spectator support.
Still a while to decide on your event and no it is not a cop out. This is our sport/hobby/past-time and we do it for fun. The motivation has to come from within and whatever goal you achieve ... it is YOUR goal. Enjoy your training!!
BTW ... yesterday I registered for the 2012 Berlin Marathons ... in-line skating AND running.
#47
Posted 08 November 2011 - 05:29 PM
BlueZed, on 08 November 2011 - 11:35 AM, said:
BTW ... yesterday I registered for the 2012 Berlin Marathons ... in-line skating AND running.
Okay, I just HAD to google the inline skating marathon
#48
Posted 13 November 2011 - 07:18 AM
Did the half last year in Canberra and I think it will be a pretty good course for a marathon newbie. I recall seeing lots of "Cool Runners" - now I am one of them!
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 05:00 PM
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