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#1 arrtgrrl

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 07:12 PM

Hi everyone,
I am hoping to run 6 foot next year and as i live right near the course for King of the mountain in Kangaroo valley .. i have been training on that as well as a lot of off road running..
I'm just wanting to know how the hills in king of the mountain compare to six foot?.. In a month a will start training on the pidgeon house mountain track also..
As this will be my first six foot (if im fast enough on the computer) I'm just wanting to make sure i get a good base happening..
Thanks guys
Naomi

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 07:39 PM

Never done KOM, but nearby to you is Meryla Pass.  You can head out from near the dam and over towards the Pass.  The hills there are a good training ground.  A few CR used to use those hills.


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Posted 30 November 2010 - 08:39 PM

I found KOM much easier than 6Ft & Meryla is easier too. But that's not because of the hills, 6ft has more technical sections & for careful chickens like me that slows you down a lot. With hindsight I would have had a few more runs on the true bush trails rather than mainly using the fire trails. (Just don't sprain an ankle training). I ran a 3:21
marathon including Meryla as part of a 54k training run. Certainly couldn't have done that at 6 Ft! But the Meryla area does offer trails &  hills of all kinds just don't stick to the 4WD roads.

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 06:19 AM

Hi guys :-)
Thanks so much for replying..  I will check out the Meryla pass so thanks for that Rob..
Hi Lindy Thats a superfast time! much faster than mine..  I'm finding it hard to find some super technical tracks.. i found one that had a ladder on it as well that i had to go over and my trail shoes slipped straight off as it was wet.. nearly broke my legs lol.. so i guess its good working all these kinks out in training..
I had some great tracks when i was in queenland but now i have moved to nsw im still finding my way around.. Just want to make sure i do enough in training..
thanks for your help
Naomi

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 07:24 AM

View Postarrtgrrl, on Nov 30 2010, 08:12 PM, said:

I'm just wanting to know how the hills in king of the mountain compare to six foot?

Hi Naomi,

Very different events.  My KoM pace was 5:00/km exactly, 6ft was 6:53/km.  Even more dramatic than the average pace difference was the variability.  My slowest km on 6ft was 10:38 with plenty in the 8-9 min range, with KoM much more consistent (one 6:45 km going up the hill at 24km), but the rest of the race was all 4 something or 5 something kilometers.  Overall times were 2:40:55 at KoM (32.23km run) compared to 5:03.17 at 6ft (44.06km run).

6ft has much more technical stuff, esp Nellies which can be a bit treacherous, esp if its been a bit wet.

That said, doing repeats up Mt Scanzi would be great training. :D

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 09:34 AM

Hi Nick,
Thanks so much for that information.. very helpful especially your time breakdowns..  Im currently running my long runs on the king of the mountain course over the hilliest parts with a 16k mid week on a more technical track but not as hilly..
I'm definitely hoping the hill repeats on mt scanzi are going to pay off as i start those in three weeks.. i have been building up so i dont get injured (fingers crossed!)..
I have heard lots of scary things about Nellies glen!... im hoping to get up and run at least this part of the track beforehand..  In saying that i have found a 1 k bush staircase down the side of a cliff near where i live and have been practising on that on  my midweek run.. nothing like nellies I'm sure but hopefully a start..
Thanks again for taking the time to reply.. much appreciated!

Naomi

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 10:01 AM

HI Naomi,

Some of the Nowra runners train on the hills East of Little Forest Plateau for Six Foot.  The length of climb and the surface is apparently very similar to six foot.  I haven't run them myself, but have driven some of them and are really pretty in places.  Probably much better and a shorter drive than the Pidgeon House Mountiain Track.

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 10:19 AM

Hi Pipi :-)

Thanks for the info.. I havent heard of little forest plateau before.. would you be able to tell me roughly where it is?...
Sounds perfect thanks so much!
Naomi

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 12:46 PM

Take a look here here or here.  

View Postarrtgrrl, on Dec 1 2010, 11:19 AM, said:

Hi Pipi :-)

Thanks for the info.. I havent heard of little forest plateau before.. would you be able to tell me roughly where it is?...
Sounds perfect thanks so much!
Naomi


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Posted 01 December 2010 - 07:47 PM

Hi Naomi,

You have the ultimate 6ft training ground just down the highway at Wandandian. Very steep,very technical trails that are often single track. Add to this eroded fire trails, cabbage tree forests and wildlife (in 3 6fts and 2 TNF I've seen one dead wombat).
Actually, much better than 6ft itself! Be warned though, not many come back for a second run. We're blessed for trail options on the south coast and this has been my favourite for four years. PM me if you would like any specific location details.
Having said all that there is quite a strong running scene in Nowra where you would be warmly welcomed on Sunday morning, Tuesday and Friday arvo runs.