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#1 ripas

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 05:33 PM

Couldnt work out where to post this topic so hope its in the correct place.

I seem to perspire a fair bit resulting in sweat from my shirt, shorts and legs following gravity and ending up in my shoes.  End result is wet, squishy shoes after about 15k or so.

I dont seem to get blisters as a result but dont like running in shoes that squelch....My latest run was over six hours so it ends up uncomfortable.

Any tips or ideas?

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 07:02 PM

Good training for 6ft track marathon.  And B2H.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 07:47 PM

Bit of extra weight training along the way! Have the same problem in the wet season up north... Maybe pack an extra pair of socks?

Or might be worth a call to a dermatologist. I saw once that you can get over active sweat glands injected with Botox

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:00 PM

ripas, not sure what part of the country you are located in? What type of running do you run in? Humid conditions? Trails with creek crossing?

I sweat a great deal and I haven't had the problem of my shoes filling up with sweat from gravity. I do have to wear a headband / cap any distance, otherwise my sweat stings in my eyes.

I have had the shirt, undies & shorts soaked with sweat. When I have wore high nylon content socks that has made the feet feel uncomfortable with sweat.

Are you wearing gortex upper material running shoes? They don't like the heat / humidity. Do you have more than one pair of shoes to rotate? Are they a different type / brand?

So I would suggest to try different shoes, shoes that drain well. Socks of also of different material.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:42 AM

I dont think I am a very heavy sweater to the point of seeking medical assistance.

Thomo thanks for the words - I am in North Qld so the humidity is always high and my shirts / shorts are always saturated after a 10K run.  Shoes are Nike Triax so standard with no goretex at all - in fact they breathe reasonably well. I have about three pairs of shoes on rotation and I get the same issues.

I do use the Target Coolmax socks - ie the cheapies - so will purchase one good pair and see what the results are.....

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 11:37 AM

Hi Ripas, you're not alone, this happens to me all the time as I sweat profusely and have tried all manner of different socks, tops, shorts etc. doesn't matter what I put on I end up soaked and so do my feet.  I just put up with it now because no matter what the manufacturers tell you, nothing wicks away sweat, absolutely nothing.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:10 PM

View PostDiJ, on 11 January 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

.... nothing wicks away sweat, absolutely nothing.

I think that the best solution. Wear nothing! Well....at least as close to nothing as public decency, legality and sun protection will allow.

Ripas, in North Qld I would be running early or late to avoid the worst of the sun and ditching the shirt. I find it running in a shirt increases body temperature and inhibits the evaporative cooling effect of moisture from the skin. Sure, it is not going to stop you sweating, but more may be lost to the atmosphere rather than seeping into your shoes.  

It is obviously not a solution for the full duration of a 6 hour run, where you will be most likely out in the harsh sun for at least part of time, but it is my preferred option.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 07:35 AM

To follow up on my thread.....

Tried new uber-expensive sockss (XSocks) with an epic fail. As per usual on the one hour mark the shoes start becoming waterlogged again.  The socks are great but just didnt solve the water logging problem!!!!

I run in Nike Structure Triax's so next step is to start trying to find a shoe with better ventilation.  To be honest a process I am not looking forward to and last time (a few years ago now) I tried different shoes I ended up back where I started with the Triax.

The Mizuno Precisions are high on my list to give a go though.  What shoes offer really good upper ventilation?  I had a pair of Structure Breathe's - better ventilated shoes - but they dont seem to be so readily available anymore.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 07:54 AM

Wear wrist sweat bands around your ankles? Take a spare pair of socks and switch half way? 6hrs is long time to be out there, I guess you could afford yourself a little extra gear... I would stick with the el-cheapo coolmax socks.. i must have nearly 20 pairs, I'm sure i could squeeze an extra pair or 2 into a spi belt.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:15 AM

Since you wear Nike Structure Triax, maybe try tracking down a pair of Structure Triax Breathe with the funky open mesh upper...

Edited by mik, 26 January 2012 - 09:20 AM.


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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:18 AM

oh I see you tried em... sorry. They wouldn't be available at the moment as its winter in the north, will possibly be available when their summer comes around...

Edited by mik, 26 January 2012 - 09:21 AM.


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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:46 AM

View Postchrisso, on 26 January 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

Wear wrist sweat bands around your ankles? Take a spare pair of socks and switch half way? 6hrs is long time to be out there, I guess you could afford yourself a little extra gear... I would stick with the el-cheapo coolmax socks.. i must have nearly 20 pairs, I'm sure i could squeeze an extra pair or 2 into a spi belt.

Im now not totally convinced that its sweat dripping downwards with gravity into my shoes that is causing the issue - although my shorts are always soaked after an hour plus run (oh and I do live in the tropics of Qld which doesnt help with high temps and humidity).

I did consider taking a spare pare of socks but the shoes are getting sweat logged so changing socks wont really help as the shoes are already sloshing.....

Im back to thinking if I can fix the ventilation of the shoes..........the current Structure Triax does seem quite warm with a lack of ventilation

Edited by ripas, 26 January 2012 - 09:47 AM.


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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:59 AM

"Water-resistant mesh upper for protection in poor conditions" doesn't sound like they would breath that well (sounds like something you might wear in the snow?)... I'm not familiar with your shoes but I think you might want to look for something with a more porous upper. Even my shoes/socks are damp/wet when I get home from a run but they not sloshing about with sweat, only if its raining do they get soaked.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 10:24 AM

View Postchrisso, on 26 January 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

"Water-resistant mesh upper for protection in poor conditions" doesn't sound like they would breath that well (sounds like something you might wear in the snow?)... I'm not familiar with your shoes but I think you might want to look for something with a more porous upper. Even my shoes/socks are damp/wet when I get home from a run but they not sloshing about with sweat, only if its raining do they get soaked.

I think you are looking at a different version of my shoes - ?Shield version.  The standard Triax is here:  http://www.footlocke... KEYWORD SEARCH

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 10:37 AM

ah ok.. looks like it... don't know what you can do then... hope you find something :)

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 10:56 AM

View Postripas, on 26 January 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

Im now not totally convinced that its sweat dripping downwards with gravity into my shoes that is causing the issue - although my shorts are always soaked after an hour plus run (oh and I do live in the tropics of Qld which doesnt help with high temps and humidity).

I did consider taking a spare pare of socks but the shoes are getting sweat logged so changing socks wont really help as the shoes are already sloshing.....

Im back to thinking if I can fix the ventilation of the shoes..........the current Structure Triax does seem quite warm with a lack of ventilation
If you believe that the cause is sweat dripping down then shoes are not the issue. If it is sweat running down your legs into your shoes then it becomes an issue of stopping this from happening. Finding good shoes treats the symptons but not the cause.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 01:01 PM

Thanks SpecBCT - my current thoughts are that the Triax are quite a warm shoe which lacks ventilation.  This fact is perhaps even more pronounced in the hot humid conditions I run in.

Would be interested to get feedback from others that run in a current version of the Triax.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 01:38 PM

View Postripas, on 26 January 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

Thanks SpecBCT - my current thoughts are that the Triax are quite a warm shoe which lacks ventilation.  This fact is perhaps even more pronounced in the hot humid conditions I run in.

Would be interested to get feedback from others that run in a current version of the Triax.


Hi

I currently have both the "shield" and "normal" versions of the Triax. I have noticed that there is a remarkable difference with the temperature of the shoes between both styles. The shield ones are much warmer. I try to limit the shield versions to shorter runs or those run in rain. I use the normal version for my longer runs or when it's humid and/or hot out there.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 10:32 AM

I am usually a light sweater but yesterday after doing laps around the lake at Harrington Park, my shorts were soaking wet- however my feet were dry as usual because I run without socks.
Might be good to try that. I don't get blisters and find it way more comfortable and not sure why more runners don't do it.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 11:34 AM

It seems more likely that the OP has just got sweaty feet rather than leg drainage. When I used to run with shoes with socks my feet sweated a lot in all but the coolest conditions. So perhaps ditch the socks, as per Colin's suggestion, or better still, ditch the shoes :)  

I mostly wear sandals or vibrams for running now. On warm days I really notice the difference between the two. The vibrams, although having very thin uppers, still hold in enough heat to make my feet feel hot and clammy although with the glove-like fit I never have any problems with blisters, even on long runs.

Another thing you can try is increasing ventilation with your current shoes by cutting some holes in the uppers. Think of it as having elite, custom footwear.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 10:01 PM

yeah it's a big problem here in singapore - especially when i do my weekend 2hr+ trail run.

i do use minimalist shoes (i am now fanatic tho, i'll run in anything) but after heavy rain and when humidity is high i run in my teva hurricane sandals, can't beat them for ventilation and comfort.

and they cost less that 30 aussie dollars on sale here.