Perth C2s Marathon
#1
Posted 08 February 2010 - 08:00 PM
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#2
Posted 08 February 2010 - 08:10 PM
#3
Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:25 PM
Serena - hopefully you can be a 12km cheering the marathoners on this year - since the 12km were disapointing quiet last year - just when a lot of us were needing a boost!
#4
Posted 08 February 2010 - 10:15 PM
#5
Posted 08 February 2010 - 10:36 PM
P.S. the elevation profile on the map still looks odd to me around Underwood ave. The hill there feels much bigger than the little lump shown on the map. Anyone else think this?
#6
Posted 09 February 2010 - 11:04 AM
djefa, on Feb 8 2010, 10:15 PM, said:
Djefa
I'm with you - I wasn't going to run this year's after last year's debacle, but if they keep those start times, we should be close to the finish when the 12kers start. Having said that, I think my kids want to do the 12k and I do have a goal of doing the 12k under my age one day, but that can wait until I'm 80
#7
Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:34 PM
Looking at the start times and aiming for 4:30, I should be crossing about 1hr 30 minutes into the 12km. Which should mean enough people around to increase my enjoyment of the final bit of the run and help me push through.
#8
Posted 10 February 2010 - 04:11 PM
Just to ease your minds re. hitting a wall of walkers/fun-runners and the rest... In 2010 there will be a physical divide between the 12km mass field and the Half Marathon & Marathon fields at all times. This begins on Kings park road at the exit from Kings park where M&HM will have their own lane fenced off from the mass field, continuing down to Thomas and Barker intersection. Once on Barker you're on your own, then after Railway road the divide will becomes a 6ft fence that can not be crossed. This 6ft fence is in place through perry lakes and then the length of Oceanic.
This ensures a clear run for all participants in the longer distances and clear access to aid stations for water, Gu & Powerade.
Hope that clears it up for you.
#9
Posted 10 February 2010 - 05:15 PM
Can you please confirm that there will be visible kilometre markers for each of the events this year (there were none for the 12km last year)?
thanks
#10
Posted 10 February 2010 - 07:28 PM
CTShelpdesk, on Feb 10 2010, 04:11 PM, said:
Just to ease your minds re. hitting a wall of walkers/fun-runners and the rest... In 2010 there will be a physical divide between the 12km mass field and the Half Marathon & Marathon fields at all times. This begins on Kings park road at the exit from Kings park where M&HM will have their own lane fenced off from the mass field, continuing down to Thomas and Barker intersection. Once on Barker you're on your own, then after Railway road the divide will becomes a 6ft fence that can not be crossed. This 6ft fence is in place through perry lakes and then the length of Oceanic.
This ensures a clear run for all participants in the longer distances and clear access to aid stations for water, Gu & Powerade.
Hope that clears it up for you.
Wow, that's a lot of fence. I presume that includes fencing off the 4km field as well? I'm still sceptical as I never under-estimate the power of people wanting something for free. For some of the slower marathon runners and the half marathoners, the ravenous hordes may still present a problem - is there razor wire and armed militia?
Geoffa (the Devil's advocate
#11
Posted 10 February 2010 - 08:20 PM
geoffa, on Feb 10 2010, 05:28 PM, said:
Geoffa (the Devil's advocate
true, last year even when the barriers were there people were still shifting them to get through into the Marathon lane. Can't completely dick head proof things I suppose.
#12
Posted 10 February 2010 - 09:59 PM
CTShelpdesk, on Feb 10 2010, 02:11 PM, said:
Just to ease your minds re. hitting a wall of walkers/fun-runners and the rest... In 2010 there will be a physical divide between the 12km mass field and the Half Marathon & Marathon fields at all times. This begins on Kings park road at the exit from Kings park where M&HM will have their own lane fenced off from the mass field, continuing down to Thomas and Barker intersection. Once on Barker you're on your own, then after Railway road the divide will becomes a 6ft fence that can not be crossed. This 6ft fence is in place through perry lakes and then the length of Oceanic.
This ensures a clear run for all participants in the longer distances and clear access to aid stations for water, Gu & Powerade.
Hope that clears it up for you.
Thanks for the reply CTS...... as a over 4hr marathoner I didn't find it too bad, the fences were up and found the lack of support from the masses walking up St Georges Tce disapointing. Only thing I found annoying was the ques at the portaloos - I decided it wasn't worth the wait or dealing with the hordes around perry lakes - so just convinced myself to wait till I got to the end...... so I guess and I know logistics is always a difficult one, but any chance of some loos on the fenced off side?
Also - just wondering - why no early bird discounts? I must say - due to no early bird discounts - I see no point in giving my $$ over till closer to the time.
#13
Posted 11 February 2010 - 12:07 AM
#14
Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:33 AM
LTLFTC, on Feb 8 2010, 05:00 AM, said:
Thanks for the info.
I'm planning on running the half.
Cheers,
Clark
#15
Posted 11 February 2010 - 11:09 AM
Think of this event in 5-10 years time. It really will be a premier iconic event, might I suggest numbers could be around 2-3k quite easily. Just need to tap into some international sister events to draw them over here.
They really are listening to last years comments and making the appropriate changes.
The time changes sound great, and the bulk of the field should be able to get through the course before the other events 'catch' up...
Might I suggest having set a couple of official Pacers (colour shirted or ballooned) for popular times - 3/3.15/3.30/4.00/4.30?
I'm all for growing this event.
I still really enjoy the local Perth marathon though supporting the club, so will hopefully be running both again this year. I'd encourage others to do so as well if you can.
In terms of entry $'s, its quite reasonable and not much different to any other big city marathon event. Getting a top quality, well organised, full road closure event. In comparison; if you were doing triathlons, OD about $150, half IM $300 and full IM $700! And the local perth marathon I think is around $40 but mostly on bike paths and no road closures, little police presence.
(I've got no links to C2S by the way, but hey I got my PB on the course so a little biased with the course
#16
Posted 28 March 2010 - 03:32 PM
If I managed 3:55 in Melbourne, what should I be aiming for in Perth?
#17
Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:33 PM
KG
#18
Posted 27 April 2010 - 11:14 PM
#19
Posted 28 April 2010 - 09:41 PM
turtle-runner, on Apr 27 2010, 09:14 PM, said:
Can't believe I am saying this but count me in
#20
Posted 19 May 2010 - 03:51 PM
Pacers - are in our sights for 2011.
happy to help with anything else if there are questions/concerns. hope the training is going well for all.
#21
Posted 19 May 2010 - 05:51 PM
#22
Posted 19 May 2010 - 06:09 PM
Biscuitman, on May 19 2010, 03:51 PM, said:
I should be doing the half, as tempting as it is to do the full I'd just be racing to get the endurance in at the expense of other goals.
#23
Posted 19 May 2010 - 06:46 PM
#24
Posted 20 May 2010 - 09:04 AM
I'm in and will take whatever the organisers throw at me..I just love racing....! Spend a lot of time in Kings Pk lunchtimes chasing Jockster up and down the hills so it's sort of my 'home marathon'..Crowds are a distraction but I'll do whatever it takes to finish...
Bring it on...
keep running (with or without fences and crowds..just keep running....) BK
#25
Posted 20 May 2010 - 09:09 AM
Biscuitman, on May 19 2010, 03:51 PM, said:
Biscuitman, If you're serious about running get a Garmin 305/405..you'll never look at a K marker again ! Best thing I ever did...I have a Garmin 305 and with its GPS capabilities you have all the information you need ..I can get get them for $250 (email me if interested as you are not allowed to put down where from in these forums : kevin.matthews@gujv.com )
..gotta love that watch !
keep running (using GPS watches) bk
Edited by BIGKEV, 20 May 2010 - 09:09 AM.
#26
Posted 20 May 2010 - 09:12 AM
#27
Posted 20 May 2010 - 11:49 AM
Thanks for the offer - I'm tempted to buy one of the new Garmin 110s (I'll check them out at the GC Marathon expo) but IMO the 305s look like you have a lap top computer strapped to your wrist :-)
Good news that they will have markers for this year - it was a bit of joke last year.
Edited by Biscuitman, 20 May 2010 - 11:50 AM.
#28
Posted 20 May 2010 - 12:17 PM
I am going to give the Marathon a go this year. I have finally committed to getting some custom orthotics tommorrow and might even go to a physio to sort out my chronicly tight left calf.
I am hoping to run sub 4hrs. I am thinking that will put me in peak hour with the 12km runners.
Its going to be my first marathon, so would like some advice on training for a goal time. Anyone know of some good websites that have that type of training plan, based on your previous shorter distance times?
Cheers,
Craig.
Also do you think my 4 day trip to Bali a week before the race is a good idea? lol.
#29
Posted 20 May 2010 - 01:12 PM
wharfie, on May 20 2010, 12:17 PM, said:
I am going to give the Marathon a go this year. I have finally committed to getting some custom orthotics tommorrow and might even go to a physio to sort out my chronicly tight left calf.
Wharfie
Enquire as to "dry needling" for your calf - it hurts like hell, but seems to do the trick
#30
Posted 20 May 2010 - 01:42 PM
Your 10km and half times are similar to mine so sub 4hrs is definitely on the cards- However I find Mcmillin Calculator way to quick at the longer distances.
Personally I find some of the programmes out there are big on quantity and running on most days. With a few niggles (and time factor) I find these a bit too much and have focused on 3- usually 4 quality sessions a week which inludes 1 long run. 2 maybe 3 30+ runs are in most programmes I've seen which are really important to get a taste of that 'I can't move my legs' feeling. Tactics on the day are really important. Being my first marathon I was too conservative on the flat 1st half in last years C2S. Be 1-45-1.52 at the half would be my aim to go sub 4 given the hilly nature of the second half. Get that calf right though- tight calf and marathon could be a painful (ouch) combination.
Regards
DR
#31
Posted 21 May 2010 - 11:25 AM
geoffa, on May 20 2010, 11:12 AM, said:
Enquire as to "dry needling" for your calf - it hurts like hell, but seems to do the trick
DANRAN, on May 20 2010, 11:42 AM, said:
Your 10km and half times are similar to mine so sub 4hrs is definitely on the cards- However I find Mcmillin Calculator way to quick at the longer distances.
Personally I find some of the programmes out there are big on quantity and running on most days. With a few niggles (and time factor) I find these a bit too much and have focused on 3- usually 4 quality sessions a week which inludes 1 long run. 2 maybe 3 30+ runs are in most programmes I've seen which are really important to get a taste of that 'I can't move my legs' feeling. Tactics on the day are really important. Being my first marathon I was too conservative on the flat 1st half in last years C2S. Be 1-45-1.52 at the half would be my aim to go sub 4 given the hilly nature of the second half. Get that calf right though- tight calf and marathon could be a painful (ouch) combination.
Regards
DR
DR,
It seems that niggles and lack of time sums up my running at the moment. I am cringing at the thought of running 30+.
I realise now I am going to have to take this seriously for a sub 4hr marathon time. When I ran the half, I didn't leave anything in the tank, so I will need to improve my endurance a fair bit to achieve a 1.45-1.52 split. (and then do it all over again. lol)
Thanks again both of you for your advice.
Craig.
#32
Posted 21 May 2010 - 09:38 PM
#33
Posted 22 May 2010 - 04:56 PM
PEEKIE, on May 21 2010, 09:38 PM, said:
Have you entered London 2011 as an International or have you booked with one of the tour groups? My friend an I have entered via the International ballot, so fingers crossed again til October for us.
The C2S is a hilly course so train with that in mind.
#35
Posted 24 May 2010 - 05:30 PM
#36
Posted 24 May 2010 - 06:59 PM
CTShelpdesk, on May 24 2010, 06:30 PM, said:
Aaah good, I wondered how I was going to find the start. Can you let the staff of the hotel know where I live so that they can guide me? Everyone feel free to join our procession...
#37
Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:40 PM
Fiona, on May 22 2010, 06:56 AM, said:
Have you entered London 2011 as an International or have you booked with one of the tour groups? My friend an I have entered via the International ballot, so fingers crossed again til October for us.
The C2S is a hilly course so train with that in mind.
We have booked through Travelling Fit, more expensive but a guaranteed entry. Good luck in the ballot
Jut did GOR half so am all good for the hill training prep. Thanks for the area advice for accomadation
#38
Posted 05 August 2010 - 11:48 AM
The 2010 Rebel Sport City to Surf for Activ is just over 3 weeks away! It's an exciting time of year for everybody who is preparing to take part, and we wish you well for the final few weeks of training.
We encourage everybody out there to rally their family and friends to get involved. You don't have to run the Chevron Marathon to be part of this iconic event, there is an event category to suit everybody from 4kms through to 42kms. Remember, every registration in the event goes to support charity, and we encourage those with a charity close to their heart to go 'the extra mile' and fundraise for that cause through Everyday Hero.
For all event information go to www.perthcitytosurf.com
Make the most of this magnificent weather, and we look forward to seeing you at the start line with all your family and friends in just over 3 weeks time!
CTSHelpDesk
Edited by CTShelpdesk, 05 August 2010 - 11:49 AM.
#39
Posted 05 August 2010 - 02:59 PM
#40
Posted 05 August 2010 - 05:38 PM
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I'm actually glad that the race organisers are monitoring the forums and hope that they are taking on board the feedback from runners about their events.
#41
Posted 06 August 2010 - 01:34 AM
#42
Posted 11 August 2010 - 03:04 PM
Has anyone done this run before, I’m curious to know:
1) How is the elevation on this course? Based on the elevation graph on the website it looks pretty flat, is this right or are there nasty surprises on the way?
2) Can we leave personal hydration packs anywhere along the way (my own bottle of Gatorade etc at various stops), I didn’t see any details on the website?
3) What's the weather like during that time of year? (I'm from Sydney and it’s the first run I’ll be doing in Perth so don’t know hat to expect)
I’ll really looking forward to this as it’s my first marathon outside Sydney
Tnx guys!
Mark
#43
Posted 11 August 2010 - 07:22 PM
newbreedofgeek, on Aug 11 2010, 01:04 PM, said:
Has anyone done this run before, I’m curious to know:
1) How is the elevation on this course? Based on the elevation graph on the website it looks pretty flat, is this right or are there nasty surprises on the way?
2) Can we leave personal hydration packs anywhere along the way (my own bottle of Gatorade etc at various stops), I didn’t see any details on the website?
3) What's the weather like during that time of year? (I'm from Sydney and it’s the first run I’ll be doing in Perth so don’t know hat to expect)
I’ll really looking forward to this as it’s my first marathon outside Sydney
Tnx guys!
Mark
Hi Mark
I can answer questions 1 & 3.
I don't know about being able to leave your own Gatorade and I can't remember if I saw tables with personal drinks anywhere.
The course does have a couple of nasty surprises! The 1st 21 kms is a perfectly flat run along the edge of the Swan River and returns to the start line on St Georges Tce where the 1st hill on Malcom st saps your legs. It's about 400 meters long and steep. The course then goes into the beautiful Kings Park for about 9 kms where it becomes undulating but the views over the city and river keep your mind off your legs. Out of Kings Park and heading toward the coast the next nasty surprise hill, on Underwood Ave, hits you at about the 36km mark. It's not as steep as the 1st but at that stage it hurts with many people walking it. The final killer is about 1.5km on Oceanic Drv that tricks you by having a couple of summits before the hill decends to the finish.
The weather can be wet but should be a cool 6 degree start with no wind getting to late teens by about 10am.
Hope that helps.
See you here soon.
Cheers
Nurse Andy (42 for Leukaemia team)
http://www.perthnow....c-1225894486182
Edited by Andy72, 12 August 2010 - 09:16 AM.
#44
Posted 12 August 2010 - 11:32 AM
This is exactly the info i wanted, and looks like you CANT have your own personal hydration in this marathon from the looks of things.
Tnx again mate and good luck with your charity efforts..
Mark
#45
Posted 12 August 2010 - 12:37 PM
1) If you have done the training, a pb can certainly be on the cards. (I'm biased, I've done 17 marathons, and this course is my pb)
2) No personal drinks stops, however there are plenty of aid stations every few k's, well stocked with refreshments
3) Past years weather: Min - Max
2009: 8 - 18
2008: 9 - 19
2007: 14 - 18
2006: 4 - 21
2005: 13 - 19
(August is notoriously known for lots of rain and high winds... we have been lucky this year so far, with not much of each - touch wood)
Good luck!
#46
Posted 12 August 2010 - 01:50 PM
newbreedofgeek, on Aug 12 2010, 11:32 AM, said:
This is exactly the info i wanted, and looks like you CANT have your own personal hydration in this marathon from the looks of things.
Tnx again mate and good luck with your charity efforts..
Mark
Just to add to the terrific responses!
There are no facilities for leaving personal hydration on course, but we believe the facilities provided to participants with respect to Water, Powerade and GU are as good as any other Marathon event in Australia. Check out the course maps for details on where to find the Aid Stations, and the Event Guide for further information about the Marathon. This can all be found at www.perthcitytosurf.com
All Chevron Marathon runners are invited to enter the SKINS Recovery Marquee at the finish precinct. Here you will be attended to with various support following your run!
Best of luck with your run!
#47
Posted 12 August 2010 - 03:57 PM
Not running the marathon this year (doing the 4km with the kids) but will be loudly cheering on any marathoners I see.
Andy72, on Aug 11 2010, 05:22 PM, said:
I can answer questions 1 & 3.
I don't know about being able to leave your own Gatorade and I can't remember if I saw tables with personal drinks anywhere.
The course does have a couple of nasty surprises! The 1st 21 kms is a perfectly flat run along the edge of the Swan River and returns to the start line on St Georges Tce where the 1st hill on Malcom st saps your legs. It's about 400 meters long and steep. The course then goes into the beautiful Kings Park for about 9 kms where it becomes undulating but the views over the city and river keep your mind off your legs. Out of Kings Park and heading toward the coast the next nasty surprise hill, on Underwood Ave, hits you at about the 36km mark. It's not as steep as the 1st but at that stage it hurts with many people walking it. The final killer is about 1.5km on Oceanic Drv that tricks you by having a couple of summits before the hill decends to the finish.
The weather can be wet but should be a cool 6 degree start with no wind getting to late teens by about 10am.
Hope that helps.
See you here soon.
Cheers
Nurse Andy (42 for Leukaemia team)
http://www.perthnow....c-1225894486182
#48
Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:09 PM
Biscuitman, on Aug 5 2010, 03:38 PM, said:
"CoolRunning takes paid advertising (see here) so do not advertise in the forums. However you can have a link etc in your signature. (Also see note below on declaring financial interest). The only exception is advertising a run based in Australia - we see this as a public service - however race directors are only allowed to start one thread per year on the event - expect to see multiple threads merged"
I'm actually glad that the race organisers are monitoring the forums and hope that they are taking on board the feedback from runners about their events.
Biscuitman...you running this one, to back up your great gold coast marathon..maybe try to snip a few more seconds from that PB...gotta love those hills!
I'm with Jockster on this one..a great race with a fast first half and if you can save a bit when you come out of Kings Pk there are a couple of fast kilometres before the final hills. Watch that rise from the Esplanade though it's a slow gradual run up Georges Tce ending with the Malcolm Street hill which is a killer..you can then relax for a few K's into Kings park before climbing out...this course has everything and the scenary in Kings Pk can take your mind from the pain...well may be a little..?
This year the organisers have really come to the party with the 6:30am start. It'll be cooler and we'll miss the chaos last year when we ran into the slow 12 runners coming out of Kings pk..it made the second half interesting ! The Melbourne Marathon does the same thing with a fast first half and then the last 10k you run into a wall of slower runners. I don't think they have done anything about it so well done to the Perth organisation who fixed the issue. (CTSHelpDesk; that plug cost you $100 please forward to my bank account!)
keep running (in lots of marathons)bk
Edited by BIGKEV, 12 August 2010 - 09:21 PM.
#49
Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:52 AM
BIGKEV, on Aug 12 2010, 09:09 PM, said:
Don't be too sure BK, we haven't found out if they have fixed the issues yet! I will congratulate them after the event if they have, but remember to spare a thought for the 4+ hour runners who will still face the same problems if they haven't...time will tell
Geoffa the sceptic
#50
Posted 13 August 2010 - 12:39 PM
Last years average time was 40mins, with 25% 40-50mins, and 25% 50-65mins.
So if you run a marathon 2.15-3.05 you will encounter at some point on the final 3k...
Hopefully the barricades are good!














