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#1 Whippet Man

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 06:09 AM

OK, no-one has mentioned the up-coming 12'  but I am planning a run so I thought I would sound out the regulars. Who's in? And not having run 6', is there a recommended map that covers the course. (Or can I just follow Tim?  :P )  I have just read Mr G's and Jan's 2002 reports and now I'm questioning my wisdom on running this only 4 weeks out from GH100. Any thoughts? And does anyone know what the water situation is like on the course at present?

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 09:20 AM

I think the general concensus is that's its great training for GH100.

The website is here:
http://www.fatassworld.com/12foot

There are water tanks at the river (15km) and the camp ground (38km) and very capable cafe/ toilets/ pub at 45km. There is a tree at 8km that is likely to have a water/coke dump put at, mainly for the return leg.

Therefore water waould be at :
8, 15, 38, 45, 52, 75, 82.

The longest section are therefore the 23km hikes. The past few years the weather has been cold so people took on board less water than they might normally. 2 bike bottles would probably do or a 2L camelbak.

For the maps, everyone who ran 6ft this year was given a "free" one - I have some left - email me your address and I will send you one. This is probably the best. The track is reasonably easy to follow - there are decent walker signs along the way and not that many cross-tracks.

Take a torch!!

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 01:23 PM

I'm there Whippet, really enjoyed 12FT last year.
It can be quite cold at the start too so have an extra layer that you can take off as it warms up through the day and put back on when night falls. Water at Coxs is not a certainty so make sure you carry enough if that's the case.

4 weeks to recover for GH should be enough.

See you there..

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 02:04 PM

I would be surprised if there was no water at the Cox.  I am planning to follow Kevin he is going to show me a secret tree.

I hope you are making the most of your trip up and running the C2S the next day.  I am happy to give you a lift to the start Sunday morning.

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 07:21 PM

Thanks guys. Won't be debuting at C2S as well. Mrs Whippet will be up visiting friends so I'll be joining her.

As for cold? Come live in Vic for a few winters  :rolleyes:  but thanks for the warning. Looking forward to the run.

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 08:39 PM

Whippet,

Guess that means you too will be a  "newbie", See you there mate.

  ;)

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Whippet Man:
Mrs Whippet will be up visiting friends so I'll be joining her.

pfft baby!

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Posted 28 July 2005 - 12:23 PM

Tim said:  

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pfft  

My dog makes that noise too  :P  

KT, received the map in the mail. You're a champion. See you in a couple of weeks.

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 04:32 AM

Virtual Runner said on the mileage thread:  

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  this weekend training on the 6 foot with my trailwalker team.  Then C2S.

VR why don't you come along on the 12' since you'll be in Sydney for the C2S?   ;)

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by Whippet Man:  VR why don't you come along on the 12' since you'll be in Sydney for the C2S?    ;)  [/QB]

That's a bugger isn't it: I have a work function in Melbourne on Friday night then a date with a Polar Bear at the Bledisloe on Saturday night (more work).

Besides If I do 12' and C2S and TW and GH Tim will think I'm following him around like a lost puppy..

I'll take a closer look but at the mo it looks logistically impossible unless Mrs Virtual lets me buy that Gulfstream. Cheers, Brendan

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 03:09 PM

you will need to be behind me to qualify as “following me” and I doubt that.  I already have the last place booked.  I am running Mountain Lion Shift as the fat slow one at the rear.  Well for the 12 Foot maybe we should change it to Wild Dog Shift, hooooooowwwwwl.

I feel so unprepared it is not funny.

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by tim:
I feel so unprepared it is not funny.

Didn't you run a longer distance than 12FT just over a month ago?

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 07:34 PM

it is no good trying to reason with me.  The only time I am going to feel I have prepared enough is as I approach the tree on Saturday night.  Then for a brief moment I will feel satisfied.  But the next day I will be thinking of how I can run it faster next time.

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 08:05 PM

quote:


Originally posted by tim:
I already have the last place booked.

Somehow I doubt that. Your recent results are much more stellar than mine.

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 05:47 AM

Tim said:  

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  I already have the last place booked.

Don't worry guys. I'm sitting here with an ice pack on my foot. I think this will be an unscheduled taper for 12'. Good chance  I'll be the lion's bait at the rear. (He's gonna be one p*ssed lion when he sees how little meat is on the bone  :D  ).

I've read all the race reports on the web page but can't find the one that Spud refers to from the previous year. Any ideas?

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 02:24 PM

I think maybe we should have an award for last place called the Mountain Lion.  Not that last place is a problem, I believe just finishing a fatass event is pretty dam good.

you can find Spud's report  here

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 02:28 PM

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I've read all the race reports on the web page but can't find the one that Spud refers to from the previous year. Any ideas?

aaah, you'd have to know spud's real name.

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 03:03 PM

what are you saying?  Spud is not his real name ?  :)

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 05:47 PM

Whippet Man,

I think you are referring to my report here.- it was in an email and not on the fat ass site.

Good luck all - looking forward to reading the reports.

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 05:59 PM

Thomas when can we see you revisiting the 12 Foot?

I have to say your report from that run was great.

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 06:16 PM

G'day Tim,

2006 for sure I'll be back. This damn skiing injury has really taken it's toll - I sometimes think that I'll never run over 30k again.

Motivation is low, weight is high (+7kg).

It's a waiting game, but I'm confident of building up from here. (I hope).   :)

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 06:21 PM

Tom's report is very inspirational and was the spark for me to get to the starting line last year.
All the best Tom, hope to see you on the trails again soon mate!

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 06:34 PM

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Motivation is low, weight is high

it is funny how those 2 go hand in hand.

Good to hear you haven't given up.

Look forward to having you back in the fatass way of life.  We have been saving the second Katoomba to Mittagong run for your return.

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 06:47 PM

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We have been saving the second Katoomba to Mittagong run for your return

Yep that's my dream.

God, you guys are inspiring me already. Better dust off the running shoes and and find a trail to bang.   ;)

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 05:45 AM

Thanks guys. It was Tom's email report I was looking for.
Thanks Kev, I wasn't all that clear about which report I was after but I am familiar with the real identity of Spud. He's a fellow member of the Leta Clark fan club.   ;)

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 01:18 PM

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He's a fellow member of the Leta Clark fan club

Just when I was getting that image out of my mind, now I have to go and spend more time on the couch   :rolleyes:

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Posted 08 August 2005 - 04:22 PM

Will we have anyone sitting in a car at the Black Mountain Camping Grounds this year?  I am just thinking about food etc and am wondering if we can chuck stuff in support car to be picked up later?

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Posted 08 August 2005 - 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by tim:
Will we have anyone sitting in a car at the Black Mountain Camping Grounds this year?  I am just thinking about food etc and am wondering if we can chuck stuff in support car to be picked up later?

My Mum and a friend will be driving round the course.

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Posted 08 August 2005 - 04:44 PM

fabulous.  

Is there any chance they could carry a cattle prod in case I try to get a lift off them later in the day.

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Posted 08 August 2005 - 05:00 PM

Ooohh can I be the one to carry said cattle prod . . . sounds like my kind of fun!  High voltage baby!    :D

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Posted 08 August 2005 - 05:07 PM

now you have taken my idea to a whole new level   :P

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Posted 08 August 2005 - 05:25 PM

I'm under the distinct impression you're a bit of a live wire!

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 05:33 AM

Getting back to the thread...(has anyone got a bucket of water to throw over those two?)...Any idea of numbers? And a totally different line: does anyone know what phone reception is like (optus) out there? Will need to ring for my taxi home.   ;)

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 05:47 AM

I think you can get phone coverage at the start, at Pluvi and on and off all the way to the Black Mountain Camping Grounds.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 06:21 AM

Phone coverage varies from telco to telco. The problem is on the return leg that it is shite in the valleys. Actually my experience is that its shite all over. Jenolan Caves (amazingly) has coverage now, but its useless as a) there is a fixed phone there and b) its still 7+ hrs from the finish.

As Tim says, there is coverage at the finish. Not a great place to hang around sans car. Maybe someone will drop you somewhere better.

Numbers - I suspect 10 runners, 4 Mtb. But I could be wrong.

Tim : Black Range. Black Mtn is Canberra   :)

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 06:29 AM

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Tim : Black Range. Black Mtn is Canberra  

That's it. I'm not following Tim.   :D

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 02:34 PM

yeah we start at the Explorer's Tree, down to Mittagong, Canberra and then return.  I guess we could take the shorter option and just go to Jenolan Caves and return.

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 05:10 PM

So the likely starters are:

Tim
Mister G
Whippet Man
Kevin T
Spud
Jan Herrmann
Ken Smith

Am I missing anyone?

IDW?
Phibes?
Barney?
????

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 06:08 PM

Ken Smith is running - he is expecting to be last. I would imagine there will be a couple of ring-ins as well. One of the guys from PMC was thinking about it.

4 Mtbers from the fat ass email list.

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 06:47 PM

Weatherzone forecast for Katoomba for Saturday:

Saturday
Frost then sunny
-2°C - 11°C

Pack your winter woollies folks.

By the way, it is currently snowing in Oberon.

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 07:32 PM

Oh, I forgot the Herrmannator too....woops.
List updated.
Cold is ok as long as it's not blowing a gale like two years ago!

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 07:54 PM

The tougher the better as far as I am concerned. I'll be waiting for the fast guys to cark it and then I can win!!   :)

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 08:12 PM

Mr G - can you confirm your crew can put a drop bag at Megalong cemetary for us ?

However, for slowies, we should assume they would have left Black Range campground by the time we/I get there ? or can they leave a small amount by the sign (a bottle of water/gatorade will be safe) ?

Does anyone know the state of water tanks at Cox's and Black Range ?

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 03:57 AM

Mr G said:  

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-2°C - 11°C

:)  
How exposed is the course? I don't usually wear my tights on long runs but I'm thinking it might be a good idea.

Heading off early tomorrow to Sydney. Staying out at Glossodia, wherever the hell that is. Will see you all there bright and early Saturday am.

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 04:05 AM

Some sections are exposed - maybe 50:50

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 04:25 AM

I had planned to run this year - but illness (both mine and my dads) have taken their toll. I will however (as it turns out) be travelling to Bathurst that day - so.....

I plan to be at Explorers Tree at 6:30am and I am prepared to traffic gear to Megalong Valley (no responsibility taken for gear dropped near the styles) if there are takers?

Regards, 2P

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 04:34 AM

Thanks 2p.

Just noticed Virtual on the starters list. He won't be there. He ran parts of the track last week training for Trailwalker and won't be there this week.

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 01:48 PM

Thanks 2P, will be nice not to have to carry Camelbaks etc down Nellies.
See you Saturday,

Whippet, list updated, no Virtual.

I think a second layer will be the go first thing. It would be nice to be able to dump some gear (clothing etc) at Cox's somewhere for the return trip, anyone know of a safe place?

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 01:59 PM

In 2003 the wind chill factor was -2.7. It was bloody cold. I made the mistake of taking a 2nd layer and didn't need it at all. It just beame a burden.

I had on shorts, long sleeve running top, a cap and gloves (part).

You won't need anything else. The only time you'll get cold is when you stop.

So just keep running and you'll be right.   ;)

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 02:01 PM

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I had on shorts, long sleeve running top, a cap and gloves (part).

You won't need anything else.

Shoes and socks might come in handy.   :D