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#1 tim

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 09:13 AM

Well the date is set.  The maps and all the info are up.

There is a 100km option or the big 100 Mile.

It is a great adventure which I highly recommend.

So who is running it?

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 09:34 AM

I'll go watch U2 on the Friday and then make my way to Teralba that night...training run for C2K.  :blink:

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 09:51 AM

After only doing the 100km version last year I'd like to see the rest of the course. Have to see how I pull up after GH. Hey Spud seeing as you're not running it again this year can I borrow one of your Apexs? :blink:

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 10:59 AM

I guess I should have said in my first post -

The GN100 is part 2 of a 3 part series or some may call it the TRIPLE CROWN!

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 11:07 AM

Like Whippet, subject to coming out the other side of Glasshouse unscathed ...

OH YEAH!

My love for this race is well known. It's beautiful, it's testing and it's unique.

Some heavy rain would make it very very interesting. :blink:

If anyone is up for some secret training, email me. I'm highly available.

Cheers, Dog. :)

Edited by Blue Dog, 21 July 2006 - 11:17 AM.


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Posted 21 July 2006 - 11:58 AM

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If anyone is up for some secret training, email me. I'm highly available.

Highly available..... I'll see about that  :blink:

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 12:21 PM

U2 Friday night and start the 100 mile saturday morning. cant wait

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 03:51 PM

With Glasshouse out for me, logically i should make my debut there this year, still reckon it'll be one i want a couple of days up there beforehand checking out the course, so very possible,
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Posted 21 July 2006 - 04:20 PM

I'd like to give GNW100 a go but having not seen the course (only hearing descriptions of how hard it is) not sure if I'd make the cutoff's? Have to agree with Kelvin about checking it out beforehand. Still 4 months away and probably 2 100 milers to do before then.

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 04:32 PM

This is not too miss and personally have an ugly score to settle here.

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 03:50 PM

This race has the potential to grow into an absolute classic. The toughness, terrain and scale of it could draw runners from the saturated US 100 mile scene. Not to be missed but definitely not to be underestimated.

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 08:15 PM

Pencilled in.  Scared of getting lost. But will start if fit.

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 08:48 PM

Re Rain: Mariners are playing away that weekend, so there's no guarentee that it will.

With U2 on Friday hopefully I will actually be able to help out this year, I'm happy to offer any assistance I can to any CoolRunners.

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 09:19 PM

I'm a possible starter.  Depends a lot on how GH goes.

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 11:25 PM

Missed last year due to illness, so have unfinished business this year, plus the lure of the Triple Crown.

Blue Dog- will be in touch about sekrit training....

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 09:59 PM

To all those who ran last year

I'm hoping to do the GNW 100 miler this year. Given that I am planning on having one weekend in October of running a number of stages of the course over two-day period, is there any in particular you would recommend focusing on?

Both from a navigational perspective and to get an overall "feel" for the course. I am very familiar with course up to Watagan Forest HQ, a little less familiar with everything up to Yarramalong and then everything after that point is completely alien.

Also (might be asking a lot), but for an ultra newbie I would love to hear the top two or three bits of advice from some of the more seasoned ultra runners. Specifically, things to do on race day, things to take, etc. Sounds like a ridiculous question when I read it back to myself!

Cheers
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 05:21 AM

Hi
Already entered 100m like last year all or nothing
may have to reacess the options on the day
a change of attitude may make a big difference
still have to run more of the course
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 03:27 PM

Im possible starter for 100k. But first the Glasshouse.
Advice to Max. Dont treat it as a race. It is an event. Aim to run conservativly and to finish.

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 06:03 PM

View Postmax payne, on Aug 10 2006, 05:59 AM, said:

Specifically, things to do on race day, things to take, etc.


Max, go to www.run100s.com  lots of good stuff there..

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 06:10 PM

At the moment I am a starter and will be driving down from Brisbane.

Currently there are 4 empty seats in the car.

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 12:45 PM

Hermie. Not commiting till after GH but definately interested in sharing petrol and driving exspences etc.
Am keen for a bit of adventure and new surroundings to get challenged by. Count me in. See you at GH.
Hope you get over the flu by then. 3 weeks away should be fine by then. Ive had it all week myself. Spent yesterday in bed. Cheers.

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 02:35 PM

View PostHermie, on Aug 11 2006, 06:10 PM, said:

At the moment I am a starter and will be driving down from Brisbane.

Currently there are 4 empty seats in the car.

I might be a starter. If GH goes well it will be either this or C2K.

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 05:21 PM

Is it me but I cannot see the purple line on the first map??

Cheers  Plu

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 10:22 PM

View PostHermie, on Aug 11 2006, 06:10 PM, said:

At the moment I am a starter and will be driving down from Brisbane.

Currently there are 4 empty seats in the car.
That sounds like an offer I might be interested in taking... oh dear, haven't even started the first one, and am looking for the next one...

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 10:29 PM

View PostHermie, on Aug 11 2006, 06:10 PM, said:

At the moment I am a starter and will be driving down from Brisbane.

Currently there are 4 empty seats in the car.

Herm, you might also have a crew member as a passenger, whether I go or not. Could be a full car!!!

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 09:26 AM

It would be a good  run in the build up to the western states,  I have got that weekend off so its definately looking good at this stage.Not only that it will be my 50th birthday that weekend . Life just could'nt any better than that could it ? :(

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 09:40 AM

View PostMRX, on Aug 15 2006, 09:26 AM, said:

It would be a good  run in the build up to the western states,  I have got that weekend off so its definately looking good at this stage.Not only that it will be my 50th birthday that weekend . Life just could'nt any better than that could it ? :(


only an ultra runner could think that is good birthday weekend.

re WS build up - I would reckon that if you can finish the GN100 you can finish anything.

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 10:13 AM

View Posttim, on Aug 15 2006, 09:40 AM, said:

View PostMRX, on Aug 15 2006, 09:26 AM, said:

It would be a good  run in the build up to the western states,  I have got that weekend off so its definately looking good at this stage.Not only that it will be my 50th birthday that weekend . Life just could'nt any better than that could it ? :(


only an ultra runner could think that is good birthday weekend.

re WS build up - I would reckon that if you can finish the GN100 you can finish anything.


My birthday falls on that weekend too, perfect U2 concerts and GNW100.
Got tickets to Monday nights show too.  :(

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Posted 03 September 2006 - 09:28 PM

Hi all,

I have done a pedometer map of the whole course.  It is my tracing and is not official but when used with print outs of the official maps it works quite well.

I find it useful to see where the main road access pints are located....don't seem to be many ;)

I starts at the end of the race so just roll up the coast or decrease the scale and start at the top.

No idea why I did it.  I have no intention of running it. :huh:

cheers  Plu

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 01:07 PM

Hey all, especially those weary souls returning from GH

Been seriously considering making my 100miler debut at GNW this year. Then it came to me. The 100km event has more elevation gain then elevation loss, while the 100miler has more elevation loss then elevation gain. So the 100miler is a down hill race and is therefore easier.

see ya all there! :huh:

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 01:32 PM

Milov:
IF you can get to 100k then yes it is more down hill than up although ...  :huh:

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 03:34 PM

Time to focus on round 2 of the Aussie Trifecta.  :huh:
Thanks to Plu's rough G-maps trace I have exported the data to a GPX file which can be loaded into Google Earth. If anyone would like a copy e-mail me. CR will not allow the file to be attached here?

Cheers  ;)

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:21 PM

I will be running as Blue Dog's pacer from the 100km mark.

I hope he isn't relying on my navigation skills. :huh:

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:36 PM

Horrie, my advice to improve your navigational skills is to look closely at the ground at intersections. If there is mud and wet sand around as at Glasshouse you will see the runners foot prints. I could identify the Nike , KT 26 , Asic etc markings easily in the Glasshouse race. I was a bit worried coming from 10 back to 9 as I could recognise only one set of KT 26's on the way back. I knew Bill and John Lindsay both wore these shoes but I didn't know John had withdrawn at 10. Thus I thought one must be on the wrong track.
I have taken up a teaching contract for the remainer of the year ( to save up for Western States ) so I will not tackle GNW.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 08:27 PM

Ordered my PT Apex today in preparation for the 100 miler. Would love to see the back half of the course before race day but it's just not feasible. Looking forward to going the full distance this year.

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 10:47 AM

Whippet Man:
After GH you and Tim shouldn't have any problems finsihing. Navigation is an issue but the most difficult is probabaly between checkpoint 2 and 3 at the Basin. It is the longest section (I think) and the most difficult with climbs as well. Once you get through that without getting lost the rest should be okay although for part of the way after 100k it could be diffcult particulalry in the night.

Your PT Apex should shine like a lighthouse.  ;)

Looking forward to catching up with you again.
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 09:39 PM

Thanks Eagle. Having done the 100 km option last year I'm hoping I don't get lost before CP4. Take nothing for granted on this course, though. They don't come much tougher. Good to see you on the come back trail.

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 08:00 PM

To all the boys who saw me at GH, and those who tried to convince me...

... what's the verdict? Should I? Dare I?

(My recovery has been brilliant and I didn't realise until this week just how much it was my niggled knee and ankle that slowed me down, moreso than the fatigue. Of course, Mud and I are still not friends.)

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 08:20 PM

Tank Girl:

I was not up at GH but saw your result. I think it was your first attempt at a 100miles and you made it.

Also I have not run GH but I suspect that if you can complete GH then you should giver serious thought to GNW. It has its own unique navigation requirements (read it is very easy to get lost for great lengths of time) and the total rise and fall is just over 40,000 feet but I am not aware of how that figure compares to GH.

It more of an adventure as well as an ultra so have a go I am sure you will not regret the experince no matter what happens. If you don't try you will never know.

Edited by Eagle, 09 September 2006 - 08:21 PM.


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Posted 09 September 2006 - 08:28 PM

Tanky I should say that the GNW is the only ultra I have done so I amy be somewhat biased but I thought it was an absolute fantastic event. It was very challenging but doable. I had a DNF but know that was mainly because I had not run one before and made a decision that convined me to withdraw when I am sure with more experience I would have worked through the problem and got up and continued.

The course is very challenging but I got to 135k and was well enough to continue to the end but .... well lets not revisit that DNF again the thought is still raw and painful to think about.


Come along for the journey.

Edited by Eagle, 09 September 2006 - 08:29 PM.


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Posted 09 September 2006 - 09:27 PM

Great North has over twice the vertical of Glasshouse. In my book, GNW is the toughest race in the country. That 36 hour cutoff is pretty tight.

Do it, Tanky. You'll be pretty satisfied at the finish.

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 09:55 PM

it is good to attempt things that you are not sure of finishing.  Sometimes you may surprise yourself.

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 10:11 PM

Tanky I did the 100 km at GNW last year solely off my GH100 finish (ie hardly ran at all between the 2 due to injury and illness). It is tough. Very tough. Besides elevation gain and loss you have the added difficulty of very technical trail and challenging navigation. Add to that several hours between checkpoints means you have to carry heaps of gear. But all of this makes it a must do ultra. A true classic point-to-point course through great country. I will be there for the full distance this year. As the captain says: respect the miles, but also respect the miles already in your legs. See you there.  :huh:

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 10:26 PM

Geez - All the ultra Boys are out tonight.

I am back as the Bulldogs have just scored again and the games is a as good as over.

Whippett Man has it right as usual. The long time between checkpoints and needing to carry so much gear is a very valid point. It seems from that aspect alone GH is a lot easier.

If I remember correctly last year I left the second Checkpoint about 2.00pm and it never occurrd to me to take a torch - darkenss was such a long time off that it seemed that I would make check point 3 before the shadows started to lengthen. Well rept into checkpoint 3 with the Dog on complete darkness about 7.30pm and we never stopped the whole time and didn't get lost either.

Others took longer because shall we say navigational issues  :D

I would add respect the course as well.

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 08:11 AM

Go Tank Girl!  You'll love it and in many ways the course will suit you.  I certainly agree that it's a very tough event but treat it like a fast bushwalk and run what you can.  We all had naviagtion issues last year but I think we'll be smarter this time around.  In my honest opinion, you'll do great, and cutoff won't be a problem providing you keep up the momentum.. and I know Army Reservists won't get lost! :huh:  See you in November or earlier if you feel like a training run sometime.  I'm getting excited already!

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 09:53 AM

Tugger I reckon we should just give you some reflective tape to mark the trail as you go through, might even slow you down a little  :huh:
It would be good for those who it ran it last year to note where these particilular areas are. I recall the Basin was where a few went awol. I plan on getting up there later this month for a bit of recon.

After pacing Blue Dog last year this course certainly deserves a lot of respect.
Looking forward to it.  ;)

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 11:27 AM

BUT I thought Tugger was going to mark the course as he went !!!  Or at least leave little written notes along the way about the course as he did at the Basin last year.

Edited by Eagle, 10 September 2006 - 11:28 AM.


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Posted 10 September 2006 - 03:15 PM

I know I've said this before but I believe it is time I made my trail ultra debut. So it will be the 100k for me. All advice, particularly about gear, gratefully received. ( Do you use Camelbacks in these events? Never used one myself. What type of headlamp do you recommend and where to buy?)

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 04:24 PM

Kanangra:
I am no expert on head lamps but plenty of others are. Camelbacks or some other brand in this event is essential as well as other gear. You should ead the web site carefully and the link is at the start of this thread.

The checkpoints are mostly somewhere between 24 - 28 k apart and on this course that is for most -Tugger excepted - about 3 -5 hours of run/walk time. And if I recall there are only 2/3 spots on the course to get water so you need to carry all you need. There is no other way on this one.

Good luck with the prepartion which should include if you can a run over parts of the course to get an idea of the terrian.

Edited by Eagle, 10 September 2006 - 04:41 PM.


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Posted 10 September 2006 - 04:36 PM

Great to have you aboard Kanangra.

Headlamps- lots of people use Princeton Tec LED headlamps- the Apex is the top of the range version, but others like the Yukon are pretty good also. Remember to always carry a backup light in case the main one fails.

I'll probably be toting a Camelbak Mule over most of the race.

I can't emphasise enough the importance of training on the course for this one- can make a huge difference.