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#1 Black Hole

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 09:26 AM

I'll get the ball rolling for the top female performances - pasted from the Athletics Australia Website


1.   2:22.36.0  Benita Johnson..........         V  3 Chicago, USA 22-Oct
2.   2:30.54.0  Kerryn McCann.........         N  1 Melbourne 19-Mar
3.   2:33.39.0  Kate Smyth..............          V 14 Chicago, USA 22-Oct
4.   2:39.13.0  Lauren Shelley..........        W  8 Melbourne 19-Mar
5.   2:41.05.0  Jenny Hindmarsh-Gillard     T  1 Gold Coast 2-Jul
6.   2:44.11.0  Helen Stanton.........           Q 2 Gold Coast 2-Jul
7.   2:45.27.0  Melanie Burke.........           3 Gold Coast 2-Jul
8.   2:45.42.0  Emma Murray.........           A 2 Canberra 9-Apr
9.   2:47.54.0  Kirsten Molloy.........           N 1 Pokolbin 23-Jul
10. 2:48.51.0  Kylie Dick.........                 V 5 Gold Coast 2-Jul
11. 2:49.22.0  Jenny Wickham.........         N 6 Gold Coast 2-Jul
12. 2:49.54.0  Magda Karimali-Poulos...... N 2 Sydney 17-Sep
13. 2:52.33.0  Eliza Mayger........              NT 7 Gold Coast 2-Jul
14. 2:53.06.0  Karen Natoli........              V 1 Melbourne 8-Oct
15. 2:54.07.0  Kate Seibold-Crosbie........ V 1 Christchurch, Nzl 4-Jun
16. 2:54.49.0  Helen-Verity Tolhurst........ Q 4 Sydney 17-Sep
17. 2:55.16.0  Belinda Dennett........         V 8 Gold Coast 2-Jul
18. 2:55.26.0  Kristen Wyatt........             V 2 Osaka, Japan 19-Feb
19. 2:55.52.0  Glenda Banaghan........       Q 9 Gold Coast 2-Jul
20. 2:56.16.0  Catlin De Santi........           V 2 Melbourne 8-Oct
21. 2:57.10.0  Tina Major........                 W 1 Perth 2-Jul
22. 2:57.32.0  Siri Terjesen........              Q 11 Gold Coast 2-Jul
23. 2:58.20.0  Verity Tolhurst.......            N 3 Canberra 9-Apr
24. 2:58.25.0  Stacey Van Dueren.......     V 3 Melbourne 8-Oct
25. 2:58.35.0  Leisa Smith.......                V 4 Melbourne 8-Oct
26. 2:58.48.0  Kirra Rankin.......               A 5 Canberra 9-Apr
27. 2:59.45.0  Jenny Truscott.......            N 9 Berlin, Germany 24-Sep
28. 2:59.54.0  Karlee Ryles.......               Q 12 Gold Coast 2-Jul
29. 3:00.30.0  Lotty Baldrey.......              V 5 Melbourne 8-Oct
30. 3:00.50.0  Sue Thompson.......            N 13 Gold Coast 2-Jul
31. 3:01.05.0  Isobel Bespalov.......          V 6 Melbourne 8-Oct
32. 3:01.19.0  Julie McNamara.......           V 7 Melbourne 8-Oct
33. 3:01.27.0 Robyn Roocke.......             Q 14 Gold Coast 2-Jul

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#2 Rudolf

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 10:22 AM

good idea, but this is different.

The womens list is australian runners only and includes also overseas marathons performances by australian.

Mens list is completely differnt ideaology - mens list contains foreigners running marathon on australian teritory and exclude the performances by australian runners on overseas marathons.

Personaly I prefere the list with australian runners only performances, inclusive of overseas marathons.

Sofar the womens list is telling about the runners in australia, and mens list is telling about marathon races organized in australia

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 01:25 PM

Despite the idealogical differences a list is better than a blank page congratulations Black Hole on starting the list.

I think there should be a couple of Cities marathon runners listed, Verity's time would almost certainly have made the list.

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 07:37 PM

Anyone aware that runner 16 is the same person as runner 23?  Verity goes by several names.  A very fine and committed runner.

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 09:58 PM

View PostHillsAths1, on Nov 17 2006, 02:25 PM, said:

I think there should be a couple of Cities marathon runners listed, Verity's time would almost certainly have made the list.

Yep, cities time is included - my time got me on the list at number 36. :)  Verity ran quicker in Sydney than she did in cities.

Looking over this list, does anyone think Australia should have more women running under 2:40? Is there a lack of depth in female long distance running in this country?

Just some questions to ponder...

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Posted 18 November 2006 - 06:33 AM

Well done on getting the list started Black Hole.  I like the concept of Australian performances any where in the world!

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Posted 18 November 2006 - 08:47 PM

Question: Is Clairie still on the list?

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 12:31 PM

Aki,

The cut off for Dave Cundy's 2005 list was 3:21:47 so Clairie might scrape onto the 2006 list if it is a weak year.

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 01:43 PM

haven't you forgotten Anna Thompson and Haley McGreggor?

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 09:29 AM

Hi all,

Good to see that we are on the way to establishing a women's list.

AA's list should be the same as Dave Cundy's with the top performances by Australian's regardless of where they were achieved. Which means that Melanie Burke who came third at the Gold Coast Airport Marathon on July 2 shouldn't be there in 7th spot as she is a Kiwi!

In any event, I would suggest that it would be interesting for the men's and women's lists here to be reflective of the top 100 performances on Australian soil so that it is unique (cf. AA and DC). It would also perhaps assist in assessing the strengths of the fields attracted to our home grown races which could then be compared historically.

The other thing that I think needs to be cleared up is whether it is a list of 1 to 100 based purely on times or a list of 1 to 100 runners (i.e. if a runner has two or more performances inside the top 100 such as Verity Tolhurst her name is only counted in the list the first time, her subsequent times are still listed but not counted as a new runner).

Does anyone have any thoughts/comments on this?

Chino

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 07:44 PM

I think it should be the top 100 times by Australians, no matter where and how many times an individual appears!

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 09:39 PM

View PostStu Mac, on Nov 21 2006, 08:44 PM, said:

I think it should be the top 100 times by Australians, no matter where and how many times an individual appears!

I agree with this. From such a list it is easy to run sums for number of entries at specific marathons, if we need to find, which courses are faster or popular.


I also think, that all time list would be great, and updated as the new times coming in.

I also think, that the list which has only performances 2 or 3 years old would be great.
Example, as the Canberra marathon is finished in 2006 and new times included, everything from
2004 or 2003 would be deleted, so there is the rule, nothing older than 730 days is there (or 1095 days)

Tennis ranking is using 12 months - 365 days deleting rule, but marathoner could not run that often in 1 year
and we need to allow for occasional lost season for injury etc.

By the way using this system - Thorpe would be out of the lists in his swimming events.

Such a list 2-3 years, would be interesting in ultras too, as it shows the current potential performers in 100 km, 24 h etc.

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 09:58 PM

For myself, I can't see why people can do their own lists if they don't like the lists that others produce.
The more lists the better ?!

I have been migrating the Australian Marathon Guide to our new software - plenty of room for a thousand lists.

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Posted 22 November 2006 - 07:42 PM

Currently doing a list myself of the Top 100 female performances on Australian Soil by all Runners. Not just Australian. Including the Commonwealth Games.
At present number 100 has a time of 3:30. Should go lower as I'm doing Gold Coast at the moment.
I'll put up as soon as I finish.

The more lists the better as Kevin said.

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 07:26 AM

Ok it's done.
Now so that no-one asks me why so and so isn't on the list, this is what it includes.

The top 100 Marathon performances by females in Australia this year by any runner. It does have multiple entries of runners as I have done the list based on fastest times.
If I've missed anyone please let me know.

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 07:42 AM

Thanks Flakey

The wife will be pleased! :)

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 02:52 PM

Missed Siri from Toowoomba Marathon, so have updated the list again.Thanks Haydos for pointing that out. And Langswd is still on the list Langwsm.

It will be interesting to see the cut off time when the Commonwealth games results drop off after Canberra in April.

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 03:45 PM

View Postsuperflake, on Nov 23 2006, 03:52 PM, said:

It will be interesting to see the cut off time when the Commonwealth games results drop off after Canberra in April.

does it mean You are using sliding 12 months window principle ?


On the different topic :

Is Siri beating uncle Dave in their number of enries ?

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 04:02 PM

View PostRudolf, on Nov 23 2006, 04:45 PM, said:

does it mean You are using sliding 12 months window principle ?

I will try and do that. :)

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 07:28 PM

Hi Superflake,

This list is a great idea. To enable simpler access to this & other similar lists, perhaps they could be listed off the main menu somewhere, rather than a series of standalone threads?

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 07:34 PM

View PostChino, on Nov 20 2006, 10:29 AM, said:

The other thing that I think needs to be cleared up is whether it is a list of 1 to 100 based purely on times or a list of 1 to 100 runners (i.e. if a runner has two or more performances inside the top 100 such as Verity Tolhurst her name is only counted in the list the first time, her subsequent times are still listed but not counted as a new runner).

Does anyone have any thoughts/comments on this?

Chino
It depends on what you want to prove I think.

All performances can show the quality of the races (*a handfull) in which those were recorded.

[* 83 from only five races.]

A performer ranking (with multi performances in brackets) shows the actual depth of running talent.

Although the compilers of these lists prefer the former I am more interested in the latter as it is a better indicator of the state of running and is a better gauge of the ranked persons own position with respect to peers- and is a better indication of what needs to be done to get on the list.

Edited by Colin, 23 November 2006 - 10:35 PM.


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Posted 23 November 2006 - 10:21 PM

I am having trouble opening the file Superflake. Is it possible for you to put the list in a post? Thanks

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 07:10 AM

There you go Jess.

Kerryn McCann 2:30:54 Comm Games Mar-06
Hellen Cherono-Koskei2:30:56 Comm Games Mar-06
Elizabeth Yelling 2:32:19 Comm Games Mar-06
Tracey Morris 2:33:13 Comm Games Mar-06
Josephine Akunaay 2:36:27 Comm Games Mar-06
Lioudmila Kortchanguina 2:36:43 Comm Games Mar-06
Kate Smythe 2:38:30 Comm Games Mar-06
Lauren Shelley 2:39:13 Comm Games Mar-06
Hayley Haining 2:39:39 Comm Games Mar-06
10.Susan Partridge 2:39:54 Comm Games Mar-06
Nicole Stevenson 2:40:58 Comm Games Mar-06
Jenny Gillard 2:41:06 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Tanith Maxwell 2:41:47 Comm Games Mar-06
Shireen Crumpton 2:42:55 Canberra                 Apr-06
Marnoroallo Tjoka 2:43:35 Comm Games Mar-06
Helen Stanton 2:44:11 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Melanie Burke 2:45:27 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Emma Murray 2:45:42 Canberra                   Apr-06
Rose Nyangacha 2:46:49 Comm Games Mar-06
20.Saori Kawai 2:47:23 Gold Coast   Jul-06
Naoko Tsuchiya 2:48:44 Sydney                 Sep-06
Kylie Dick   2:48:51 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Jenny Wickham 2:49:22 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Magda Karimali-Poulos2:49:54 Sydney                 Sep-06
Charne Rademeyer 2:50:05 Comm Games Mar-06
Shona Hicks 2:51:41 Comm Games Mar-06
Eliza Mayger 2:52:32 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Karen Natoli 2:53:06 Melbourne                 Oct-06
Jenny Wickham 2:53:18 Sydney                 Sep-06
30.Eliza Mayger 2:54:31 Adelaide                 Aug-06
Helen Verity-Tolhurst 2:54:49 Sydney                 Sep-06
Belinda Dennett 2:55:16 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Glenda Banaghan 2:55:52 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Miki Igarashi 2:55:59 Gold Coast Jul-06
Caitlin De Santi 2:56:16 Melbourne                 Oct-06
Helen Verity-Tolhurst 2:56:33 Cities                 Jul-06
Tina Major                 2:57:10 Perth         Jul-06
Siri Terjesen 2:57:31 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Helen Verity-Tolhurst 2:58:20 Canberra                 Apr-06
40.Stacey Van Dueren2:58:25 Melbourne                 Oct-06
Leisa Smith 2:58:35 Melbourne                 Oct-06
Siri Terjesen 2:58:35 Canberra                 Apr-06
Kirra Rankin 2:58:48 Canberra                 Apr-06
Danielle Florens 2:58:56 Comm Games Mar-06
Karlee Ryles 2:59:54 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Lotty Baldrey 3:00:30 Melbourne                 Oct-06
Nadelle Legge 3:00:31 Great Ocean Road May-06
Sue Thompson 3:00:49 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Isobel Bespalov 3:01:05 Melbourne                 Oct-06
50.Julie Mcnamara 3:01:19 Melbourne                 Oct-06
Robyn Roocke 3:01:27 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Suzanne Kelly 3:02:28 Canberra                 Apr-06
Sumi Okada 3:02:38 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Isobel Bespalov 3:02:48 Great Ocean Road May-06
Samantha Flanders 3:03:28 Melbourne                 Oct-06
Rebecca Moore 3:03:35 Comm Games Mar-06
Noriko Murakami 3:04:08 Gold Coast                 Jul-06
Kirsten Molloy 3:04:44 Sydney                 Sep-06
Johanna Parsons 3:04:50 Cities                  Jul-06
60.Deborah Hutchison 3:04:58 Gold Coast                  Jul-06
Sharon Harrison 3:05:17 Gold Coast                  Jul-06
Julie Mcnamara 3:05:20 Canberra                  Apr-06
Erin Hargrave 3:05:43 Canberra                  Apr-06
Tina Major                 3:05:53 Sydney                  Sep-06
Tina Major                 3:06:05 Bunbury                  May-06
Jo-Anne Bennett 3:07:03 Perth                   Jul-06
Fleur Flanery 3:07:15 Canberra                   Apr-06
Suzanne Kelly 3:07:34 Cities                   Jul-06
Sharon Harrison 3:07:35 Melbourne                   Oct-06
70.Kate Weeks 3:07:38 Melbourne                   Oct-06
Loretta Wesley 3:07:52 Gold Coast                    Jul-06
Jody de Souza 3:08:28 Gold Coast                    Jul-06
Jacqui Parrish 3:08:36 Canberra                    Apr-06
Catherine Swef 3:08:48 Melbourne                    Oct-06
Johanna Parsons 3:08:53 Sydney                    Sep-06
Rosie Doran 3:09:22 Melbourne                     Oct-06
Siri Terjesen 3:09:39 Toowoomba                   Oct-06
Elizabeth Bennett 3:09:44 Gold Coast                     Jul-06
Jo Rutherford 3:09:49 Melbourne                     Oct-06
80.Yvette Clements 3:09:51 Sydney                     Sep-06
Rosemary Roediger 3:10:02 Cities                     Jul-06
Lesley Turner-Hall 3:10:03 Gold Coast                      Jul-06
Flora Dickson 3:10:14 Gold Coast                      Jul-06
Brooke Harvey-Shaw 3:10:46 Melbourne                      Oct-06
Johanna Parsons 3:11:01 Canberra                      Apr-06
Catherine Swindles 3:11:01 Canberra                      Apr-06
Mandy Towler 3:11:12 Adelaide                      Aug-06
Kiyoko Kawano 3:11:15 Gold Coast                     Jul-06
Angela Clarke 3:11:18 Gold Coast                      Jul-06
90.Jodie Barker 3:11:21 Great Ocean Road      May-06
Majella Till                 3:11:38 Melbourne                      Oct-06
Danielle Langsworth 3:11:54 Gold Coast                      Jul-06
Yvette Eglinton 3:12:21 Adelaide                      Aug-06
Sandra Timmer-Arends3:12:21 Traralgon                      Jun-06
Louise Robertson 3:12:23 Gold Coast                      Jul-06
Tracey Roche 3:12:34 Melbourne                      Oct-06
Gemma Agnew 3:12:47 Gold Coast                      Jul-06
Siri Terjesen 3:13:13 Brisbane                      Apr-06
Merzuka Bahtigur 3:13:16 Cities                      Jul-06
100.Margreet Dietz 3:13:18 Gold Coast                      Jul-06

Edited by superflake, 24 November 2006 - 07:44 AM.