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[Jogger]

Just passing this on :


Hi Kevin

I flagged several weeks ago about the prospect of putting on a run in the
Southern Highlands.  After quite a few positive responses I have decided to
go ahead with the idea. Here is some general information you might like to
add to the calendar on the web page.  I will send you pdf's of the map(s)
and instructions a bit later.

Highlands Pub to Pub
Fatass Run
50 km

Date:
23 September 2006

Time:
8:00 am start.... Finish whenever you like!

Course:
Broadly the course will be from the Jemmy Moss Hotel, Argyle St Moss Vale to the Friendly Inn Hotel in Kangaroo Valley via Meryla Pass, Morton
National Park and Bendeela.  Detailed maps and instructions will be provided on the day and also will available soon for download from the Fatass web site.

The  course will be a mixture of quiet, undulating country roads through farmland, 4WD tracks through the Morton NP and down Meryla Pass, big hills and of course great scenery....

Lindsay

[Luckylegs]

Haven't heard of this one till now.  Perfect time of the year, super scenic locations & the world's best pies at the Robertson pie shop if the course goes that way (or not!). 6 days after Blackmores Marathon, Half & 10km.  Worth keeping an eye on the calendar for more information.    B)      LL

[djl]

Awesome idea.  Wonder if it's MTB-friendly?  (in case the knee is still dodgy by then)

[tim]

is the Jemmy Moss Hotel an early opener?

[Luckylegs]

From Tim:

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is the Jemmy Moss Hotel an early opener?

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Tim, you should know it's like New York City : nothing ever closes there!!    :rolleyes:    LL

[tim]

and you may even get to see a celebrity.

[Luckylegs]

djl,  this might give you some information...looks like an exciting ride!

Tim, is there any Cool Runner who hasn't met you yet?  :P    LL

[djl]

Thanks LL.  Looks good!

[Chub]

I like the sound of this ...

[topcat]

Certainly has my interest, love the area, trails are great and don't feel the hills for the scenery. Plus will help to move the excess winter kgs.

[plu]

There has been some earlier discussion on this run in the following  Yahoo Group .The original idea came through at the end of March near MArch 30.

Cheers Plu

[Amigo]

Hi

I'm glad there has been so many positive responses to my idea of running between these particular hotels. I liked the idea of incorporating the Robertson Pie shop but it would extend the course considerably.

The course at it stands is very doable by MTB... no bush bashing.  

The navigation will not be too difficult either.

I'm looking forward to the run and I can almost taste the beer at the finish.

Cheers
Amigo

[Chub]

I'm assuming the run will take us along Jack's Corner Road then the main road into Kangaroo Valley? There is pie shop not far up the main road but away from KV, bills itself as "Best Pies in the World" or similar. Very tasty, especially the curried vegetarian

[Luckylegs]

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bills itself as "Best Pies in the World" or similar. Very tasty, especially the curried vegetarian  

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That's the one, Chub!!!   B)     LL

[tim]

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bills itself as "Best Pies in the World"

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how did they determine they were the best in the world?

Is there some international yearly pie off?  Or maybe there is a pie Olympics.

[Luckylegs]

Tim, go for a run & stop making me laugh!!  

"....a pie off"!!!!    :D    LL

[danski]

Amigo, love the idea mate  :)  
It would make for a nice weekend in the valley afterward too.
NorthPole is keen too.
danny

[Virtual]

three weeks after glasshouse. perfect timing..

[Chappo]

Having seen Amigo's initial topo maps, I'm not sure how my quads will like Meryla Pass - its pretty serious downhill.  :D  

I'm looking forward to the challenge anyway!

Chappo

[Tesso]

This one's marked in the diary - in pen!

An important question about the course though, at around what km mark is the pie shop?

[plu]

Tesso,

From what I remember of the area it would be quite a detour to the pie shop unless you were going to run down Macquarie Pass and into Jamberoo, Kiama!

Cheers  Plu

[Steve M]

The KV pie shop has one wall plastered with various pie and baking awards, maybe it has the best pies in the world.  I am always a little suspicious though of the "award winning pie", like the wines with five gold medals from the Nowheresville Wine Show.

[Amigo]

All this talk of pies!!! Granted we will probably need a pie or three (award winning ones or not) after the run but the Robbo pie shop is nowhere near the course.

I have made the maps scanned from 1:25000 scale topos with lots of detail.  They should be up on the web page soon

Cheers
Amigo

[Amigo]

Hi All

The maps and a few more details are now available.
Go to http://www.coolrunni...ands_Pub_to_Pub to download and print maps.

Cheers
Amigo

[Becky O]

Can anyone please tell me how much of the course is on trail and how difficult the trail sections are ?

I am really interested in doing this race, however, I dont have access to many trails for training leading up to the race.

Thanks
Stampy  

[Amigo]

Stampy, on Jun 16 2006, 12:29 AM, said:

Can anyone please tell me how much of the course is on trail and how difficult the trail sections are ?

I am really interested in doing this race, however, I dont have access to many trails for training leading up to the race.

Thanks
Stampy  

Stampy

The off road section of this run is on fire trails... steep in places but not particularly treacherous.  The scenery is fantastic.  The navigation is easy. Check out the maps.

Seeya there!!
Cheers
Amigo

[Fats]

This sounds great. I am overseas for most of September but a very likely starter if I am in the country.

[Virtual]

Thanks for putting me onto this one Plu.  Looks good.  Planning to be there if fit.  Brendan

[Louie de Fly]

Hi
Shame it's not an out and back course is there any chance of including a return run it would be a shame to waste such a good area FFFT is tops and 100km run in that area would be unbelievable
Besides I don't like organising shuttles
From one sick puppy     (aka Louie de Fly)
  
Lou

[Run 2 Become]

Am i brave enough to do the 25km option?
I will find out soon enough!

[Amigo]

Louie de Fly, on Aug 20 2006, 04:00 AM, said:

Hi
Shame it's not an out and back course is there any chance of including a return run it would be a shame to waste such a good area FFFT is tops and 100km run in that area would be unbelievable
Besides I don't like organising shuttles
From one sick puppy     (aka Louie de Fly)
  
Lou

Louie

Pardon my ignorance but what is FFFT?

Yes, car shuttles are a pain but, to me, travelling one way somehow adds to the sense of adventure and changes the paradigm from running as exercise to running  as a mode of transport... just me waffling on again !

Anyhow I can't guarantee there will be transport back to Moss Vale.  I have no real idea how many people will be running, possibly 10-20, maybe less.

As the day approaches I will try to let everyone know via ozfatass email if there are any known spare seats in cars heading back to MV on Saturday afternoon.  I will try to keep on eye on this thread too.

Seeya there
Amigo

[Louie de Fly]

Hi Amigo
SHAME SHAME SHAME
FFFT (Fitzroy Falls Fire Trail Marathon) one of the best and most well organised runs of the year the second half can be a bit tough
Well marked with plenty of drink stations
But like 6FT and Mt Wilson to Bilpin run by runners and NSW BUSH FIRE BRIGADES
The food at the finish is first class starts with coffee, tea damper or scones
Last year they raised $3500
It would be nice to have a few longer runs in NSW the gap from a marathon to 100 miles is a little steep and the area is tops so 50km would still be great hard to resist
Have GLH100 and GNW100 so need to decide later may need to take it easy on the return journey
Sorry had to mention FFFT  
All the best
Lou

[Speedy_Gonzalez]

It would be good if the pub at the finish could put on happy hour for the participants. Given that they will probably be rehydrating at 3times the rate of a normal person, this could work out well for everyone. Not sure about the need for a pub at the start?

[Chappo]

I have plotted the course on GMaps pedometer if anyone is interested.
SHP2P GMaps

Looking forward to the challenge!!

Chappo

[rodthehornet]

Chappo,

Love this map, but every time I click along the course I end up in USA.  Moss Vale to Kansas is just too far for me!!! This course sounds great, but it is day one of cricket season.       Already committed to FFFT also on a Saturday, so running out of available days.  

The Hornet

[Blue Dog]

Chub, on May 12 2006, 07:08 AM, said:

There is pie shop not far up the main road but away from KV, bills itself as "Best Pies in the World" or similar. Very tasty, especially the curried vegetarian

You have no idea how much I would love to eat a 'curried vegetarian' pie.

If I bring the curry, can we use Tim as the main ingredient?

We could make dozens of pies out of him.

Dog.

Edited by Blue Dog, 30 August 2006 - 11:37 AM.

[tim]

this is quite disturbing.  

[Run 2 Become]

Now that wouldn't be a vegetarian pie anymore now would it?

Hehehe

[Tuttle]

Aren't "vegetarian" and "pie" oxymorons?

Remember, too, the words of that great philosopher, Homer: "you don't win friends with salad."

[Will]

I might be interested in doing this. But if I do it:

- I will be slow
- I will not eat a pie with no meat in it

[Chappo]

rodthehornet, on Aug 30 2006, 10:16 AM, said:

Love this map, but every time I click along the course I end up in USA.  Moss Vale to Kansas is just too far for me!!!

I change the map type from Hybrid to either Satelite or Map, and this seems to make it a little more stable.

Will, on Aug 30 2006, 12:25 PM, said:

I will not eat a pie with no meat in it

From my estimates, Robertson Pie Shop is a 50km deviation along the Illawarra Highway, so I'll probably give it a miss!

The Pub at Kangaroo Valley (Friendly Hotel??) has food and drink though, and the advantage is I won't have to run anywhere afterwards!!

Chappo

[tim]

Will, on Aug 30 2006, 12:25 PM, said:

I might be interested in doing this. But if I do it:

- I will be slow
- I will not eat a pie with no meat in it

maybe you would be quicker if you changed your eating habits  

[C&N]

Hi,

Count in two more for this run! It looks fantastic. We are driving up from Canberra, and definitely keen on a car shuffle if anyone's interested?

Cheers
C&N  

[Will]

tim, on Aug 29 2006, 11:47 AM, said:

Will, on Aug 30 2006, 12:25 PM, said:

I might be interested in doing this. But if I do it:

- I will be slow
- I will not eat a pie with no meat in it

maybe you would be quicker if you changed your eating habits  

What, you mean stop eating snails and frogs legs ...NEVER!

[Amigo]

Hi

All systems are go for the inaugural Pub to Pub Fatass 50.  We have about 15 confirmed starters and several more likely so it should make for good competition.  About 3 people so far have said they will do the One Pub Option (23k ish) the rest will hopefully do the Full Monty.

There has been a little discussion about the distance and whether the Full Monty really is 50k.  Initially I measured the course on a topo map with a string and a ruler.  I calculated about 48k so a little poetic licence was used in calling it 50.  Chappo used GMAP and came up with 45k.  To this you should at least add a little to account for the gradient.  Also you should add about 1.5k due to the fact that the FINISH LINE is about 1.5 k further along Moss Vale road than is indicated on the map.

In any case we will declare the actual distance after the event... hopefully Chappo will measure it accurately on the day with his trusty little GPS.  If there are any purists out there who will be disappointed if it is less than 50k, I suggest they do a few extra laps around the KV showground to make up the distance while the rest of us sit on the pub verandah and sample the ales...

Anyhow, hoping for clear weather and a great day

Amigo

[Toffy]

Hi Amigo,

My running buddy, Janelle, and I are looking forward to this one!

I gather starters will link up at the Jemmy Moss Hotel from around 8:30 for a 9AM start?

Cheers
Chris.

[Amigo]

Toffy, on Sep 17 2006, 05:20 PM, said:

Hi Amigo,

My running buddy, Janelle, and I are looking forward to this one!

I gather starters will link up at the Jemmy Moss Hotel from around 8:30 for a 9AM start?

Cheers
Chris.

Hi Chris and Janelle

My group little group (5) plans to arrive between 8:30 and 8:45.  Just time enough to meet up, a photo opportunity under the pub sign, and then off down the main street...

Seeya there
Cheers
Amigo

[Run 2 Become]

Getting excited for the weekend,not long now!

[Chappo]

Looks like it will be a warm one on Saturday - Sydney forecast is Fine and 17-28.

Does anyone know how much tree cover there is on the trails?

Chappo

[Amigo]

Chappo, on Sep 18 2006, 07:51 PM, said:

Looks like it will be a warm one on Saturday - Sydney forecast is Fine and 17-28.

Does anyone know how much tree cover there is on the trails?

Chappo

Chappo

I suspect that most of the way will be fairly exposed.  The tracks are wide... similar to Black Ridge on 6FT.

The road to Meryla Pass is through farmland so, a few trees along the roadside, likewise Jack's Corner Rd.

Water will be an issue if the weather is really warm... funny, initially I was more concerned about the weather being uncomfortably cold.  I am planning a water drop at Meryla Pass Lookout (about 25k)
So a 3 litre camelbak refilled at half way should be more than enough.  The water from Crankeys and Yurrunga Creeks probably wouldn't kill you if you were caught short but I wouldn't rely on it.

Cheers

Amigo