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#1 CrispyFries

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 10:00 PM

Hi people, I just thought I'd say hi, I've been reading CR for a while but until now hadn't posted. I've been working out with a personal trainer for the last 8 weeks and so far lost 9 kg. Initially my aim was to be able to run 10k by the end of the year, but tonight I managed a 6km jog in a leisurely time of 50 minutes, so I'm thinking I might need to alter my year end goal as I felt I could go further except for the following...

Knowing I had to start increasing my distance I went into athlete's foot this week to get some new shoes as I'd been using my old basketball shoes until now. So I did the fitprint thing and walking so they could see what my feet do and was told my feet roll in a little and a few different models were brought out as being most suitable, and out of those I chose reebok premier ultra kfs as the most comfortable. Unfortunately within the first km of tonights run the outside of the balls of my feet were really hurting, I pushed on wanting to complete my run anyway. So I'm guessing that these shoes aren't suitable for my feet/running style?
Should I be returning them for something different? Can you even return shoes that you've run in or should I try ebay? Should I go somewhere else?

Thanks,
Justin

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 10:12 PM

Sounds like you've been doing really well.

I'm a newbie too, so can't comment with any authority, but I think you should take them back! Try posting this on the "shoes and socks" forum with a heading like "newbie shoe query", there are some very helpful people hanging out there, including some who work at athlete's foot and other shoe shops.

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 10:39 PM

Thanks, I'll try that ;)

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 10:57 PM

Welcome to CR Justin!
It wasn't athletes foot at the glen was it? I had the same problem. The shoes I got there felt great in the store but I found that they were no good for running and in fact I have trouble staying on my feet in them for more than a few hours.
Dont try ebay unless you know what you want-there's no point saving money on cheap shoes if they dont work for you. Once you establish what shoe you like-then go for it!
A good place to try on shoes without feeling like you need to buy is rebel sport. All their sizes are on the shelf, not in some back room so you just help yourself and try on as many shoes as you like. The staff dont seem to mind-just tell them you're looking and dont need help.
I just bought shoes at Active Feet in Preston. They put you on a treadmill and analyze your feet and recommend shoes to suit. To early yet to say if they got it right but it's looking good. They have a 30 day returns policy if they're not. The service was outstanding.
Having said that I wouldn't give up on the reeboks just yet. You've gone from worn basketball shoes to new running shoes-it's a bit of a change for your feet. Try another couple of runs-they might get better.
I'm no expert but thats my 10 cents worth-hope it helps

Sook after 99 posts I'm not sure you still rate as a newbie!

Edited by wombatoutofhell, 27 July 2007 - 10:58 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2007 - 11:04 PM

Haha, yeah it was the Glen. I meant ebay in terms of trying to sell the reeboks if I can't return them. I thought it might be not being used to them, but it really hurt ;) I never had foot pain in my basketball shoes, so I was really surprised that I was getting in my new running shoes.

Edit: oh, my basketball shoes aren't worn, just old... if I'd been using them I wouldn't have needed the PT ;)

Edited by CrispyFries, 27 July 2007 - 11:06 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2007 - 11:30 PM

View PostCrispyFries, on Jul 27 2007, 11:04 PM, said:

I meant ebay in terms of trying to sell the reeboks if I can't return them.
If I wasn't so tired I would have probably worked this out for myself. Doh!

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Posted 28 July 2007 - 09:28 AM

Well I work for them and I'd say bring them back. how much did you pay? The only thing I could think of is that you need more cushioning! often this means more $$ tho.. ;) As stated above we have a 30 day wearanty with the clubfit program

If it was balls of your feet pain i'd say this would be the most logical answer, I'd back something with GEL or Hydroflow (brooks or asics) If it was throbing pain (like blood cant circulate) the problem may be related to the width and depth of the shoe.

Im not familar with reebok really we discontinued use with that range some time ago so I cant share any info about them sorry.

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Posted 28 July 2007 - 12:25 PM

Crispy

Sounds like you got the wrong shoes. I agree with Wombat that sometimes you need to get used to them but if both shoes hurt on the outside of the ball then sounds like either the shape of the last is incorrect or they are too tight.

It took me some years before I found the correct shoes for me and I have several pairs of different styles and I use them for different runs - long, short, soft for training, wide for marathons, light for speed sessions etc.

To select the correct shoe, first look at the soles of older athletic shoes that you wear - it gives info on if you pronate, supinate etc and if so how much - take them to the shop to show them. I pronate, but not much so I can use neutral or cushioned shoes. However, I have a wide foot especially when I run distance and in that case all feet swell.

I suggest:

1. Take them back and tell them your problem
2. Make sure you get the shoes that fit your feet from a style and width perspective
3. Get the right cushioning / support / control shoes

I have been to Athletes Foot including the Glen store. The people are friendly and helpful. More so than most running shoe shops. I'm still not convinced they get it right that often. If no luck the second time, I'd follow Wombat to Active Feet - they are in Prahran and Heathmont - they charge a few bucks more but I have only heard good things about outcomes. I personally do not buy there because I know what I need so I chase price - I buy several pairs a year. You don't know yet what you need.

Good luck and don't give up - it takes time and a few pairs of shoes before you get it right.

s

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Posted 28 July 2007 - 09:21 PM

The Heathmont ActiveFeet is a bit closer to Glen Waverley then Preston. Good returns policy as . They don't actually charge more, just the full retail price. Could be worth it thought, especially if you're still looking for the right pair (you can take back the old ones within 30 days, even after running in them). Good luck!

Edited by azza, 28 July 2007 - 09:27 PM.


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Posted 30 July 2007 - 03:11 PM

I had the exact same issue with the Reebok Premier Road KFS shoes that I came out of Athlete's Foot with!

AF said that they have something in the shoe that assists 'push off' of the foot and they felt good in the shop but after about 10-20 mins running the balls of my feet were so sore that I'd have to start walking.

AF were great though - I'd worn them three times (no, they didn't get any better) but AF were happy to swap them over. I'd gone to a running store in the meantime so knew which shoes I wanted to swap them for. I ended up getting Asics Gel 2120 and they've been great!

Just wondering DECIM8, if the Reebok's have been discontinued, are AF pushing to get rid of old stock?

Edited by harvey998, 30 July 2007 - 03:13 PM.


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Posted 30 July 2007 - 09:28 PM

I was told the ultra kfs were the latest and greatest, not even listed on the reebok australia site yet, so they can't be discontinued at all stores. The reebok site says the road plus are more suited to me.

I went back on saturday, and they were happy to swap them. They suggested a wider shoes would be better, the suggest ones were a pair asics, brooks beast and I think there was another. I went with the brooks as they were the most comfortable and fit the best. Went for another run afterwards and they were a lot better, was even 6:30 faster over the same course, woo. I'll probably try active feet next time though, just to make sure. I've since had shin problems, so no running for a little while ;)

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 10:55 AM

I think it's great that shops will take back unsuitable running shoes even after we have tried running in them.

Just wondering though, what happens to these shoes after they have been returned? Sorry if this is a really stupid question ;)

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 01:19 PM

View PostPlodBod, on Jul 31 2007, 10:55 AM, said:

Just wondering though, what happens to these shoes after they have been returned? Sorry if this is a really stupid question ;)

Not a stupid question PlodBod, i've often wondered that myself. I'm guessing they get sold cheap to staff, or in the case of Runner's World in Kew (Vic) they go into their Bargain Boxes. (noticed some in the box last week seem to have minor wear marks). I'm sure by law they can't be re-sold again as new, but it wouldn't worry me if they'd only been run in once, as long as if the need ever arose I could return a worn unsuitable pair too.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 02:18 PM

Harvey998 In responce to your question the shoes are not discontinued we have just discontinued stocking them (most sydney stores)

I never liked them or sold them really so no loss to me, I felt they died quickly anyway from the shoes I saw return to the shop.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 03:43 PM

View Postchilliman, on Jul 31 2007, 01:19 PM, said:

Not a stupid question PlodBod, i've often wondered that myself. I'm guessing they get sold cheap to staff, or in the case of Runner's World in Kew (Vic) they go into their Bargain Boxes. (noticed some in the box last week seem to have minor wear marks). I'm sure by law they can't be re-sold again as new, but it wouldn't worry me if they'd only been run in once, as long as if the need ever arose I could return a worn unsuitable pair too.

Thanks Chilliman (hmmm chillis - yum!!)
I kind of thought that's what happened to them. Wouldn't worry me either to buy a used pair. Will check out bargain bins more often!

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 01:26 PM

ah, not just me then! i've got a pair of reebok premier ultra kfs from the athlete's foot a few months ago, and no matter what i try, they keep giving me blisters around the ball of my foot! this is unfortunate, because they're so cushioned it feels like running on mondo when on hard surfaces! and they're so quiet too! i've relegated them to short stuff, like track sessions or intervals.