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[Simlin]

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Our SARRC board has approved Yurribilla as an official SARRC event. Yurribilla, is a 54 km trail event from Belair to Ambers Gully along the Yurribilla Trail and will be held on the Sunday 28th September, 2008. The event will be limited to 75 participants and will be promoted in Footnotes etc.

Great news from the SARRC  Now I have something to train for this year.  Having helped out on the exploritory pack run last year I am very pleased that this has now been endorsed by the road runners and will be an official event.

[Wida]

That is fantastic news. I have only just decided to have a go at the Adelaide 12/ 24 hour this year with a long term goal of doing the Cradle Mountain run. Now I was only doing some searching on the net today to figure out what sort of training I could do in Adelaide and now you hand this new race to me on a platter  

Looks like I better get that Yurrebilla map quick smart and head out on the trails. I still can't believe I was only sitting down at my computer today saying "wouldn't it be cool to run the entire Yurrebilla trail" and "why can't Adelaide have a great trail Ultra run" !

Do many SARRC members (I am one) head out for long trail runs on the weekends?

Wida

[RMC]

Sounds interesting. Maybe getting AURA involved could also boost entrant numbers. A link to the trail maps can be found here.

[Wida]

Wida, on Mar 5 2008, 03:53 PM, said:

That is fantastic news. I have only just decided to have a go at the Adelaide 12/ 24 hour this year

Hmm   , now that I look at the dates a bit closer this is the week before the 24 hour so I'll have to chose one or the other.

[chilliman]

Thanks Simlin

Have run sections in the past, would love to do the whole 54k, as you said, something to put on the calendar, and agree with you RMC re the AURA comment.

[JustinS007]

Sounds even better as a "round trip" at 108km.  Prevents transport issues too.

Regards,  J.

Simlin, on Mar 1 2008, 09:12 PM, said:

Great news from the SARRC  Now I have something to train for this year.  Having helped out on the exploritory pack run last year I am very pleased that this has now been endorsed by the road runners and will be an official event.

[Simlin]

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Just found this.  One of the runners from the trial trail run last year was kind enough to share their Garmin elevation profile for the trail.

[RB]

Hi All

Have been in contact with SARRC office. At this  stage the Yurribilla Trail run will not be a first pass the post type race, it will be ran in groups, as there is still logistics to work out, on road cross, aid station and directions.

Still sounds like a good run, as September is free might take the trip.


  RB

[milov]

love the profile... no flat bits

[Wida]

milov, on Mar 28 2008, 11:52 AM, said:

love the profile... no flat bits

Over the last 6 weeks or so I have run the entire trail (apart from a couple of the bitumen sections) and I must say that the profile posted above is most definitely how it is. There is very little  flat running on the trail at all...it's either up or down.

I've only just got into this trail running caper and I must say I am loving it. My first run on the Yurrebilla trail was from Ambers Gully to Montacute Rd and back and even though I was "road fit" enough to punch out 25k's at the time, the 12km journey absolutely smashed me. In the last 2ks back to George Rd my quads were that sore from the descending that every single step was painful. Some people reckon that trail running is easier on the body, but people who say that must be running different trails to the Yurrebilla!

The run is going to be a great event, I've already put in my entry so I don''t miss out and I'm really looking forward to it.

Has anyone else been hitting the trails? I've seen the occasional runner in the more popular sections like Morialta and Waterfall Gully.

[Colsy]

I am hoping to do this next year so I will be watching this thread closely, I hope the whole thing is a success. It may be up to us South Aussies to give the thread a bump now and again to publicise it.

Wida, there are a bunch of us going up the Waterfall Gully to Mount Lofty trail on the 8th of June. More of a social hop than a trail run. I hope you can join us as a bit of talk about trail running along the way would be good.

Details here:

http://www.coolrunni...x...st&p=321737

[Simlin]

Ambers gully up black hill is my normal hills run...I generally run up the firetrails rather than the walking trail (sugarloaf trail) and that hill climb down to or up from montacute (woodcutters) is killer.  maybe we could start a Yurrabilla training group?

[Wida]

colsy, on May 14 2008, 07:17 PM, said:

I am hoping to do this next year so I will be watching this thread closely, I hope the whole thing is a success. It may be up to us South Aussies to give the thread a bump now and again to publicise it.

Wida, there are a bunch of us going up the Waterfall Gully to Mount Lofty trail on the 8th of June. More of a social hop than a trail run. I hope you can join us as a bit of talk about trail running along the way would be good.

I can't see why it won't be a success as it's such a great trail considering how close it is to the CBD. As far as turning it into a race I understand that the orgranisers are a bit worried about the road sections but I reckon it is manageable. If we can cope during training then we should be able to whilst racing. Probably the only other problem that I could see is that some sections of the trail are very poorly marked, especially the start section at Belair. Also, in the Horsnels Gully and Cleland part of the trail if you didn't know that the Hysen and Yurrebilla trail take the same route then you'd get easily confused as there is quite a bit of the trail that doesn't have Yurrebilla trail markers. Considering the trail is promoted by the tourism gurus of this state I think it should be better. I have been left a few times scratching my head trying to figure out which way to go, but luckily with a bit of logic and the trusty old map figured it out.

I came across the Waterfall Gully thread last night and have been following it. I actually ran most of it on Saturday as I took a detour up to Mt Lofty and then headed down towards the Gully, but left the trail to get up to Eagle on the Hill. With the weather being so nice it was like running down Rundle Mall with all of the people around. Damn walkers with MP3 players though...talk about infuriating...walking in the centre of the trail oblivious to the outside world . It's a beautiful section of trail though. I typically run on Saturday's as it fits my schedule but I'll have to check out if I can make it.

Simlin, on May 14 2008, 07:37 PM, said:

Ambers gully up black hill is my normal hills run...I generally run up the firetrails rather than the walking trail (sugarloaf trail) and that hill climb down to or up from montacute (woodcutters) is killer.  maybe we could start a Yurrabilla training group?

I've only concentrated on the trail to date so that I make sure I get familiar with it, but I'm keen to start exploring a bit more. Are you talking about the section where they have the steel mesch on the ground so that you can get traction on the steep slope? That is damn steep .

Training group sounds good. I'm not sure what level other people are at but I'm at the stage of being able to handle 5 hours of about 35ish km of trails. As mentioned above I do pretty much all of my running of Saturday. My running philosophy is if it's too steep to run then walk otherwise I'll be plodding along pretty much everywhere else.

[Simlin]

Perhaps the waterfall gully to mt lofty will be a catalyst for a hills (yurrabilla) training group

[Colsy]

Simlin, on May 14 2008, 08:59 PM, said:

Perhaps the waterfall gully to mt lofty will be a catalyst for a hills (yurrabilla) training group

I was kind of hoping that it would be the seed for Yurrebilla 09 for some people, including myself.

[sunny1]

colsy, on May 14 2008, 08:35 PM, said:

I was kind of hoping that it would be the seed for Yurrebilla 09 for some people, including myself.

What about 08?

Wilda: regarding the poorly marked parts of the trail - I run with SARRC on Friday morning and I have heard discussion of poor markings and people chasing up the right people to have it put right (I wonder if I can get another right in that sentence?). So hopefully it will be right by the running of the run.

Communication skills poor tonight - I am in desperate need of a run ... right now!

[sunny1]

Didn't get my run last night.   But managed to do a slow 7km this morning ... so am feeling better now.

Is anyone here (besides Wilda) thinking of doing Yurribilla this year?

Edited by sunny1, 15 May 2008 - 04:59 PM.

[Simlin]

YES!

[nicwiltor1]

I would be a tentative.
I nearly ran this 2 years ago but was side tracked by a nannas 90th.
The festivatives rolled on through the alloted time I was to run.
I will give it a good shot to be there.

[Colsy]

I might use this thread to ask some novice questions about trail/ultra running.

Something like Yurrebilla, what sort of KMs would you expect to cover per hour. What would be the low end and high end.
Does every entrant run every moment they can or is it acceptable to walk a hell of a lot?

[Martin Dugdale]

colsy, on May 15 2008, 08:02 PM, said:

I might use this thread to ask some novice questions about trail/ultra running.

Something like Yurrebilla, what sort of KMs would you expect to cover per hour. What would be the low end and high end.
Does every entrant run every moment they can or is it acceptable to walk a hell of a lot?

the trail runners mantra starts: start slow an then slow down; walk up the mountains and run down them, if you find any flat bits then cheer and shout, then jog them. also eat at the bottom of the mountain not at the top, eat little and often.
have fun

[Colsy]

Now thats a mantra I can dig.


Hmmm...I like the idea of this trail running caper.

[Simlin]

This run is not a one for all.  There are 3 set groups with set speeds (though these migh possibly vary on the day)

From the entry form:
SELECT ONE OF THE FOLLOWING 3 GROUPS (tick one box):
(In 2007course included two people who had never run more than 30 km completing the run in 9.5 hrs).
- Group A (expected completion 7.5 - 8.5 hrs)
- Group B (expected completion 8.5 9.5 hrs)
- Group C (expected completion 9.5 - 10.5 hrs)

Each group will have their own supprt crew wih food and water etc.

[Wida]

colsy, on May 15 2008, 07:32 PM, said:

I might use this thread to ask some novice questions about trail/ultra running.

Something like Yurrebilla, what sort of KMs would you expect to cover per hour. What would be the low end and high end.
Does every entrant run every moment they can or is it acceptable to walk a hell of a lot?

Colsy,
One thing that I love about trail running is that you don't seem to worry about how fast you are running. If the slopes are too steep then simply walk them. I tend to watch my heart rate monitor and if things start to get too hard then I have a walk. As for what sort km per hour, well it all depends on the terrain. The attached file shows the stats from my weekends run along the trail, from Horsnels Gully through to Eagle on the Hill and back with a detour up to Lofty on the way. For what is worth I ran the Greenbelt Half in 90min and run about a 3:20ish marathon. I didn't stop my watch at all during the run so a couple of the long splits may have been where I stopped for a feed or to get something out of my pack.
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Edited by Wida, 15 May 2008 - 09:30 PM.

[davidfmc]

Having just run the greenbelt and having walked Yurrebilla a number of times in 12 hours, my friend and i are keen to have a go running in Sep 08. Should we be aiming to do our first marathon a month out in Adelaide ?

David

[sunny1]

Simlin, on May 15 2008, 07:59 PM, said:

This run is not a one for all.  There are 3 set groups with set speeds (though these migh possibly vary on the day)

From the entry form:
SELECT ONE OF THE FOLLOWING 3 GROUPS (tick one box):
(In 2007course included two people who had never run more than 30 km completing the run in 9.5 hrs).
- Group A (expected completion 7.5 - 8.5 hrs)
- Group B (expected completion 8.5 9.5 hrs)
- Group C (expected completion 9.5 - 10.5 hrs)

Each group will have their own supprt crew wih food and water etc.

Which group have you targeted Simlin? Wilda?

[Simlin]

I am tempted to go B but I think I might take it easy in C.  Depends if there are any spots left when I decide
Wilda, I think you need Sports Tracks.  (google it)  You will never go back to Training Centre if you have used Sportstracks.

[Wida]

Simlin, on May 16 2008, 08:34 AM, said:

I am tempted to go B but I think I might take it easy in C.  Depends if there are any spots left when I decide
Wilda, I think you need Sports Tracks.  (google it)  You will never go back to Training Centre if you have used Sportstracks.

Hey guys I'm not that "Wild", well at least I think not...it's Wida

I'm having a crack at group A. As strange as it may sound the main event for this year that I'm aiming for is the Yurrebilla, so all of my weekends will be out in the trails. The reason that I'm focusing on this run is my main goal next Feb is to hopefully get a spot on the Cradle Mountain Run, so I'm trying to get as much trail experience as I can. I think I'll be closer to 8.5 hours than 7.5 though. I'll still do the usual stuff like the Adelaide marathon.

I do have SportsTracks and would you believe that until 15 minutes ago I could never figure out how to get it to show me elevation profiles. I even just loaded the elevation correction plugin and it's pretty cool.

[Wida]

Simlin, on May 15 2008, 07:59 PM, said:

From the entry form:
(In 2007course included two people who had never run more than 30 km completing the run in 9.5 hrs).

I wonder how sore these guys were at the end of the run? If they didn't do much trail running then I'd say they would have been quite sore and sorry. I definitely wouldn't recommend having a crack at this run unless you've done a reasonable amount of trail running.

Any thoughts??

[sunny1]

Wida, on May 16 2008, 05:48 PM, said:

I wonder how sore these guys were at the end of the run? If they didn't do much trail running then I'd say they would have been quite sore and sorry. I definitely wouldn't recommend having a crack at this run unless you've done a reasonable amount of trail running.

Any thoughts??

They weren't too bad. They regularly run with the Friday morning hills groups which runs around Burnside/Waterfall Gully - up to Glen Osmond, Heatherbank Road, Sunnyview etc. This group runs tracks in summer when light enough. At least one has since done the Paris Marathon (not so hilly!)

(Edit: I think they run with the Athelstone group on Wed evenings - they run things like Corkscrew Road).

Edited by sunny1, 16 May 2008 - 06:47 PM.

[Colsy]

sunny1, on May 16 2008, 07:46 PM, said:

They weren't too bad. They regularly run with the Friday morning hills groups which runs around Burnside/Waterfall Gully - up to Glen Osmond, Heatherbank Road, Sunnyview etc........

Sunnyview, we have a suburb called Sunnyview?

[sunny1]

colsy, on May 16 2008, 06:23 PM, said:

Sunnyview, we have a suburb called Sunnyview?

Sunnyview OR Sunnyside Road (can never remember which) - have a look in a street directory.

edit: sorry if that sounds curt Colsy - in a hurry - off to rowing meeting at boathouse on Franks river (should have left 10 mins ago) - very Wind in Willows.

Edited by sunny1, 16 May 2008 - 07:03 PM.

[Simlin]

Rowing?  Sounds wet and chilly...lucky it is only a meeting.

[Wida]

Well I did something a bit different tonight, I hit the Yurrebilla trail after work and finished the last half of my run in darkness (but with a headlamp). I must say that it was a fantastic experience, especially given how still the air was. When I stopped, the silence (apart the occasional animal) was amazing. The city views at night from the top of Black Hill were fantastic too. Also, there were a few mobs of roos that didn't seem too fussed about me running only a few meters away.

I have some positive news regarding trail markers. I ran from Ambers gully and not quite into the Morialta Gorge and to my surprise there were brand new trail markers every 500m or so. Admittedly I do know the trail very well, but even running by headlight at night the trail markers were very easy to see and I think it'd be pretty hard to get lost. Hopefully they have fixed up other parts of the trail too...does anyone have news on that?

So, do we have any new runners that have signed up for the event? Does anyone know how many entrants there are to date?

Edited by Wida, 13 June 2008 - 10:18 PM.

[sunny1]

Wida, on Jun 13 2008, 09:47 PM, said:

Well I did something a bit different tonight, I hit the Yurrebilla trail after work and finished the last half of my run in darkness (but with a headlamp). I must say that it was a fantastic experience, especially given how still the air was. When I stopped, the silence (apart the occasional animal) was amazing. The city views at night from the top of Black Hill were fantastic too. Also, there were a few mobs of roos that didn't seem too fussed about me running only a few meters away.

I have some positive news regarding trail markers. I ran from Ambers gully and not quite into the Morialta Gorge and to my surprise there were brand new trail markers every 500m or so. Admittedly I do know the trail very well, but even running by headlight at night the trail markers were very easy to see and I think it'd be pretty hard to get lost. Hopefully they have fixed up other parts of the trail too...does anyone have news on that?

So, do we have any new runners that have signed up for the event? Does anyone know how many entrants there are to date?

Wow! Wida! How long did that portion of the track take you?

No news on markers on the trail. Don't know how many signed up yet. Haven't done it myself, yet.

[Wida]

sunny1, on Jun 13 2008, 10:45 PM, said:

Wow! Wida! How long did that portion of the track take you?

It was 24km and took me 3hr20min which isn't too bad considering it was my first night run. I was going to run a bit further, well right into the Gorge, but being my first night run I got a bit weirded out. The feeling of having this dark emptiness behind you is kind of freaky .  After a while things settle down though.

Edited by Wida, 14 June 2008 - 12:01 AM.

[RunDave]

Wida, on May 14 2008, 06:09 PM, said:

Over the last 6 weeks or so I have run the entire trail (apart from a couple of the bitumen sections) and I must say that the profile posted above is most definitely how it is. There is very little  flat running on the trail at all...it's either up or down.

I've only just got into this trail running caper and I must say I am loving it. My first run on the Yurrebilla trail was from Ambers Gully to Montacute Rd and back and even though I was "road fit" enough to punch out 25k's at the time, the 12km journey absolutely smashed me. In the last 2ks back to George Rd my quads were that sore from the descending that every single step was painful. Some people reckon that trail running is easier on the body, but people who say that must be running different trails to the Yurrebilla!

The run is going to be a great event, I've already put in my entry so I don''t miss out and I'm really looking forward to it.

Has anyone else been hitting the trails? I've seen the occasional runner in the more popular sections like Morialta and Waterfall Gully.

Hi Wida,

I've been hitting the Yurrebilla a bit this year. I may even go in the SARRC event later this year if I manage to pay my SARRC membership, although I think it might be a little slower than I'd like. I've been running mostly down the southern end from Belair to Brownhill Creek and Brownhill creek to Eagle on the Hill, but I also did a run earlier this year from E on the H to just past the RADAR installation (can't remember the name of the road). I've covered all of the trail (in bits and pieces) now over the last few years including several times in training for and during the Trailblazer event. If you want to meet up for a run along the trail sometime, I generally run on Sunday mornings and since I usually run from home or ride to the trail, I would probably want to start from the southern end.

[RunDave]

BTW,

Has anyone else noticed the amazing view of the city and CBD from the trail just above the Waite just before it heads back into the hills. It would have to be my favourite view of the city.

[Wida]

RunDave, on Jun 14 2008, 12:25 AM, said:

If you want to meet up for a run along the trail sometime, I generally run on Sunday mornings and since I usually run from home or ride to the trail, I would probably want to start from the southern end.

Thanks RunDave. I typically run Saturday mornings but on the odd occasion do run Sunday's so I'll let you know if I do. The southern end is fine. One section that I want to do more of is Hornsels Gully/ Cleland.

Just curious. What suburb do you live in and how do you make your way to the trail? My girlfriend lives lives in Panorma and I've always thought that it'd be great if there was a trail up to Belair. Is that possible?

[RunDave]

Wida, on Jun 14 2008, 10:20 AM, said:

Thanks RunDave. I typically run Saturday mornings but on the odd occasion do run Sunday's so I'll let you know if I do. The southern end is fine. One section that I want to do more of is Hornsels Gully/ Cleland.

Just curious. What suburb do you live in and how do you make your way to the trail? My girlfriend lives lives in Panorma and I've always thought that it'd be great if there was a trail up to Belair. Is that possible?

Here's the course. You run up through Torrens Park reserve. I live in Ascot Park, and make my way to Springbank road whichever way I feel like on the day.

Edit: That link didn't work too well. Try this Google Earth KML file.

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Edited by RunDave, 15 June 2008 - 06:18 PM.

[Simlin]

Nice to see you still lurking Dave!

[sunny1]

Wida, on Jun 13 2008, 09:47 PM, said:

Well I did something a bit different tonight, I hit the Yurrebilla trail after work and finished the last half of my run in darkness (but with a headlamp). I must say that it was a fantastic experience, especially given how still the air was. When I stopped, the silence (apart the occasional animal) was amazing. The city views at night from the top of Black Hill were fantastic too. Also, there were a few mobs of roos that didn't seem too fussed about me running only a few meters away.

I have some positive news regarding trail markers. I ran from Ambers gully and not quite into the Morialta Gorge and to my surprise there were brand new trail markers every 500m or so. Admittedly I do know the trail very well, but even running by headlight at night the trail markers were very easy to see and I think it'd be pretty hard to get lost. Hopefully they have fixed up other parts of the trail too...does anyone have news on that?

So, do we have any new runners that have signed up for the event? Does anyone know how many entrants there are to date?

Are there clear marks at the start of the Ambers Gully part of the track? What would I be looking for Wida?

[Wida]

RunDave, on Jun 15 2008, 05:03 PM, said:

Here's the course. You run up through Torrens Park reserve. I live in Ascot Park, and make my way to Springbank road whichever way I feel like on the day.

Edit: That link didn't work too well. Try this Google Earth KML file.

Thanks RunDave, I'll try that some time. This link will work Springbank Rd to Belair

sunny1, on Jun 15 2008, 06:29 PM, said:

Are there clear marks at the start of the Ambers Gully part of the track? What would I be looking for Wida?

Ok, start at the entrance to the Black Hill Conservation Park which is off Gorge Road . As you enter the gate you'll see a shelter shed with a map of the area and it also shows that you are on the Yurrelbilla trail. To get the the trail head through the second gate which is closest to the houses and once you've got that far you should be set. Don't turn right after the shelter shed or you'll just have a steep climb up a fire road to nowhere.

[RunDave]

Simlin, on Jun 15 2008, 06:13 PM, said:

Nice to see you still lurking Dave!

Yep, still hangin around like a pair of old runners: not really good for running in anymore, but holding onto them just in case.  

Na running, is still just ticking over at the moment. Just trying to keep a base fitness while I'm deciding which event I want to do later in the year. Yurrebilla? Trailblazer 50, 100, back 50? Adelaide marathon? C2B? Combination of a few of these? Starting to run out of time for the marathon tough.

[sunny1]

Thanks Wida ... inspired by a recent ascent of Mt Lofty I am going to make an effort to do parts of the track over the next few weeks. I have seen the view from Black Hill in the day - it would be spectacular at night!

RunDave ... might be time for the old shoes to come out of hibernation. There will be others counting on you for the Trail Blazer (and those wishing to compete too!)

Edited by sunny1, 15 June 2008 - 07:58 PM.

[Fitnhealthy]

After Mt Lofty I think I also would like to add a few trail runs into my program, but mine will have to wait until after the Gold Coast...

Yurribilla 2009 will be my aim maybe

[Wida]

RunDave and I hit the trail this morning and I have more good news on trail markers at the Belair end. Belair has new trail markers and I think you'd have to be trying really really hard to get lost now. So there's no excuse not to get out there

This is the route we took. We started at Torrens Park and then ran up to the start of the Yurrebilla trail. It's quite a good route and not having to drive up to Belair is a bonus too.

It was the first time I've run with RunDave and I must say that man loves hills...much faster up them than me that's for sure  . Thanks for the run...it was good to have someone push me a bit.

[chilliman]

I'd really like to get over there for this one, can't lock it in yet though.

Would you guys have any idea if there is a chance of the 75 spots filling up if I left it to the last minute ?

Quote

It was the first time I've run with RunDave and I must say that man loves hills.

I sort of would have guessed that based on his C2B times, a machine indeed

Thanks for the course map you took too Wida !

Edited by chilliman, 28 June 2008 - 12:30 PM.

[Wida]

chilliman, on Jun 28 2008, 11:58 AM, said:

Would you guys have any idea if there is a chance of the 75 spots filling up if I left it to the last minute ?

Thanks for the course map you took too Wida !

Not sure how many spots have filled up. Your best bet would be to contact SARRC I guess.

Thanks for the course map should go to RunDave.

[RunDave]

Wida, on Jun 28 2008, 11:38 AM, said:

It was the first time I've run with RunDave and I must say that man loves hills...much faster up them than me that's for sure  . Thanks for the run...it was good to have someone push me a bit.

And now he's feeling VERY sore!