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[Innes]

Well done Milov on a great effort, you went one better than my efforts to do the same last year.
Spud - Another fine time and win..

I was thinking about this run all weekend and really been bothered that I couldn't make it...
I will definately be heading up  soon for the loop though..

[Brick]

Innes, on Apr 21 2008, 03:03 PM, said:

Well done Milov on a great effort, you went one better than my efforts to do the same last year.
Spud - Another fine time and win..

I was thinking about this run all weekend and really been bothered that I couldn't make it...
I will definately be heading up  soon for the loop though..

Good on ya Milov,

Great report and run, a bloody hard and long that 12helgate is I am sure.
Spud you keep getting better/faster as time goes on well done mate.

Innes contact me when you decide on a date I would love another try at this run if it fits in with my plans for the next few months.

Brick

[tim]

Innes, on Apr 21 2008, 03:03 PM, said:

Spud - Another fine time and win..

spud did not leave at the official start time so sadly he is not eligible for a win

[Spud]

tim, on Apr 21 2008, 03:07 PM, said:

spud did not leave at the official start time so sadly he is not eligible for a win

The beauty of fatass oh wide torsoed one.  

[tim]

Spud, on Apr 21 2008, 03:18 PM, said:

The beauty of fatass oh wide torsoed one.  

nice  

[SpartaJen]

Bloody crazy Milov - but bloody awesome. Well done!

So what's next - TwentyFourGate ?  

[Twopennys]

Jen_runs, on Apr 21 2008, 05:46 PM, said:

So what's next - TwentyFourGate ?  

I have a cunning plan......

Edit: I just need to find someone to implement it

Edited by Twopennys, 21 April 2008 - 05:56 PM.

[Horrie]

It turned out a great day for it and everybody looked to be having so much fun. I must admit to feeling as though I was missing out on some fun when I sent you all on your way.

Fantastic effort Milov, you continue to raise the bar. Well done!

[SpartaJen]

Twopennys, on Apr 21 2008, 05:54 PM, said:

I have a cunning plan......

Why am I not surprised?  

[Spud]

Twopennys, on Apr 21 2008, 05:54 PM, said:

I have a cunning plan......

This wouldn't be a certain 100 miler starting at the Tree would it?  

[tim]

Spud, on Apr 21 2008, 08:31 PM, said:

This wouldn't be a certain 100 miler starting at the Tree would it?  

a fatass 100 Miler would be interesting.

oh that's right Milov has already done one.

[terry]

Thanks again 2p for all ther work you put in to this run. This is one of the best trail runs out there. My time was 6hr 35 min ,25 min quicker than last year. I will put that down to the cool conditions and being damp under foot made for better traction on the steeper sections.
Great run Milov, I know how hard that run was. I doubt that you would find a lot of people capable of such madness just because they were a bit upset. Glad to hear you are feeling better

[rodthehornet]

tim, on Apr 21 2008, 03:07 PM, said:

spud did not leave at the official start time so sadly he is not eligible for a win

Depends whether we count gun time or chip time????   

Well done Milov.  The course won last year, but you had a big win on the weekend.  

2P, you put on super runs.  I am sure your mind is already ticking over re the 100 miler.  Dont forget the trails that head off on the right as you head up Pluvi (approx 25km mark) - a loop down there would be a blast.


Cheers
Rod

[Chopper]

Brilliant trail run 2P, no doubt the work of many a night spent pouring over 1:25 000 maps with a magnifying glass, Google earth and a bit of field work to boot. In my mind the the genius of the loop is the connection of the valley floor of Jenolan to the little used fire trail on the ridge out to Kanangra - when you look up from the camp ground gate it didn't strike me as an obvious route! And the Bloody Filly track probably hasn't had much traffic since the last heard of fat ass runners were mustered through them parts last year.

This was my first fat ass run and I really enjoyed it. Spent the day running with Terry who knew every twist and turn of the track. I'd gone to the trouble of laminating my maps, figuring out the bearing for the bush bash and general notes scribbled here and there. In the end I didn't need to pull the maps out once!

Felt pressed when Terry bounded up the first hill but we settled into really pleasant rhythm after that. Passed Milov at around 12pm and was amazed at how smoothly he was jogging the downhills, after 12 hours of cold, wind, fog and close encounters of the cow kind no less! Felt slightly bad leaving Terry in the last 6km, especially after I found out later that he stopped to stash some extra food for Milov, but the rain started again and I was getting cold.  Plus couldn't help having a bit of a dig on the Black Range to see if Tim was just ahead after Terry mentioned that he had caught him on the final hill last year - of course Tim wasn't to be seen. Finished in 6:25, grabbed a pie and a coke in Mt Vic and drove home for one of the top 10 best hot showers of my life.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least to hear that Milov was out there next weekend claiming the first bouncing of the walls connection!

Thanks 2P!

[Whippet Man]

Well done Milov. Legend.

[Twopennys]

Spud, on Apr 21 2008, 08:31 PM, said:

This wouldn't be a certain 100 miler starting at the Tree would it?  

Nah - the hundred mile concept is already out there - just start at the Tree, add one BOTW, and return - best taken shaken and not stirred like Milov needed to be to do Twelvegate

No, it was something that Max Payne said to me on Blacks Range when he passed me about the remoteness of the Hellgate Gorge that he really enjoyed and that got me to thinking..... how could that feeling be replicated on a course that you don't have to drive for hours to get to.... get even more spectacular views than Hellgate, finish at the start, contain an untracked section to get the nav juices flowing, and not contain any out and back bits. Final criterion - only need minimal support to do i.e. no more than 3 water drops.

The answer is so damn obvious I can't believe I didn't think of it before.

I haven't done the required map study yet but the picture in my mind puts it at something a smidge over 100k - maybe 110k. It is harder and more remote than Twelvegate....

Oh it can be done alright *snickers & rubs hands obsessively together* - it can be done.... hehehe...

Hehehe.....

[tim]

Twopennys, on Apr 21 2008, 10:44 PM, said:

I haven't done the required map study yet but the picture in my mind puts it at something a smidge over 100k - maybe 110k. It is harder and more remote than Twelvegate....

Oh it can be done alright *snickers & rubs hands obsessively together* - it can be done.... hehehe...

Hehehe.....

put me down for it

[Spud]

Twopennys, on Apr 21 2008, 10:44 PM, said:

Oh it can be done alright *snickers & rubs hands obsessively together* - it can be done.... hehehe...

Hehehe.....

You're an evil man 2P, but in a nice sorta way, I'm in.  

[Whippet Man]

Me three.

[milov]

Hey 2P

schedule it for October and we have another 'grandslam' up for grabs!

milov

[max payne]

Me in too. It's sounding a bit like the Barkley Marathons . . . . on that thought, maybe I'm not in  

[Brick]

milov, on Apr 22 2008, 06:55 AM, said:

Hey 2P

schedule it for October and we have another 'grandslam' up for grabs!

milov

October does sound like the correct timing.
Put me down as a maybe, I am crap at navigation but if milov is in we could get lost together.

Brick

[Spud]

max payne, on Apr 22 2008, 08:12 AM, said:

Me in too. It's sounding a bit like the Barkley Marathons . . . . on that thought, maybe I'm not in

Speaking of Barkley I was thinking just that on the scramble on all fours up to Oaky, try that over a 100 miles and you've got a Barkley.

[SpartaJen]

Oh geez 2P, you make that sound so appealing I wanna put my hand up too  

[Lynda]

Hi 2P,

Thanks for putting this run on, and for going for the effort of putting out water drops. I really enjoyed the adventure (and the company of Belinda and yourself)!

My favourite bit was the bush bash bit. With the route instructions, when it flattened out, the instructions said "keep left". I stopped and waited for you to catch up, as I thought it might mean turn left. But we actually kept going up the spur (which seemed to turn a bit to the right) - but just stayed well on the left side of it (as opposed to the centre).

The most challenging bit was that downhill to the Jenolan River - I kept saying to myself "I will not freak out, I will not freak out". The surface felt like slippy slidey sand - but it was steep, rough, well rutted shale!

There were great views when the fog lifted.

It was very different getting used to a full pack.

[Chopper]

It's not a Six Gate, with a half Bounce of the Walls washed down with a K2K twist? Ouch!

[Thomas]

Twopennys, on Apr 21 2008, 08:44 AM, said:

Oh it can be done alright *snickers & rubs hands obsessively together* - it can be done.... hehehe...

Hehehe.....

with crazed eyes and drool dripping from his mouth.

Edited by Thomas, 22 April 2008 - 09:12 AM.

[Twopennys]

Chopper, on Apr 22 2008, 09:07 AM, said:

It's not a Six Gate, with a half Bounce of the Walls washed down with a K2K twist? Ouch!

You win the prize Chopper - that is exactly it - but I was thinking in reverse so the tricky nav up Cloudmaker gets done in daylight.

Told you all it was obvious

Haven't looked at maps but from memory it would go like this:

Take off from the Tree
Down Narrowneck
Yellow Pup
Kanagaroo Clearing (approx 30k - mostly runable - water available from Kanangra Ck)
Stongleg
Cloudmaker (5k ish faint footpad hard climb not runable - water available from Dex Ck)
Kanangra Walls (12k ish - primitive single track barely runable in spots - water drop)
BOTW route - (27k - runable - water same as on weekend for Paul)
Hellgate Gorge (water drop Blacks Range)
Cox's (water at tank)
Up Nellies back to Tree

Nice work Chopper glad you thought of it - I'll tell everyone to blame you

Now that the genie is out of the bag -and that it could never be done as a race - is there interest a fatass style training run? Date/time of year?

Oh yeah nomenclature - what would we call it?

Cheers, 2P

[tim]

Twopennys, on Apr 22 2008, 10:18 AM, said:

Oh yeah nomenclature - what would we call it?

well there is cloudmaker, the stairs at Nellies to finish and the last run you did was Hellgate.  

So i would be thinking "stairway to heaven"

[Spud]

Oh that 45kms stretch from Explorers to Kanangra is gnarly. Took me circa 10hrs a few years ago.
Monster course, but we don't do these things cause they're easy.

[Twopennys]

Tim you are a genius - you should be in marketing!

Stairway to Heaven it is!

[RunBare]

Its wrong that I'm even reading this....

[Mister G]

Spud, on Apr 22 2008, 10:48 AM, said:

Oh that 45kms stretch from Explorers to Kanangra is gnarly. Took me circa 10hrs a few years ago.
Monster course, but we don't do these things cause they're easy.

"My prediction...? PAIN....."

Edited by Mister G, 22 April 2008 - 11:39 AM.

[Mister G]

By the way, there is some email talk of a Katoomba- Kanangra- Mittagong run later this year, which would be separate to the Stairway to Heaven but perhaps just as epic.

Edited by Mister G, 22 April 2008 - 12:09 PM.

[Martin Dugdale]

I am with Runbare on this, I must not look, I must not be tempted, repeat to self

[SpartaJen]

Should have guessed that it involved Cloudmaker after our recent discussion 2P  

I read the K2K fat ass race reports recently as I'm looking at hiking it in the next couple of months. I must say my eyebrows raised sky high when I read that an 8k stretch took Paul Every something like 2:25 to cover  

[gogirl]

Depends how I pull up after a few other events that I have on the calendar. If it was "just a training run" then yeah, why not!

[max payne]

2P

I think you'll find a fair amount of interest in this one. Key thing will be timing I guess  - early October looks good?? Halfway between GH and GNW?

Keep on poring over those topo's, love your work.

Cheers
Paul

[scurry711]

Well done Milov on your epic run, well done everyone else who ran this awesome trail run. As I've stated this was probably the best run I have ever done when I did it last year. I was camping out the back of Bathurst in the high country and although we didn't get any rain it was very windy and I was thinking of everyone who braved the conditions. Again, well done.

[Twopennys]

Ok - I've trawled through the thread and my PM's and this is the score - please let me know if there are any errors or if I have missed anyone out.

Milov Twelvegate 100k+ 18.44
Max_Payne Almost Bounced off the Walls 70k 9.45
Spud 5.41
Thomas 6.06
Tim 6.20
Chopper 6.25
Terry 6.35
Slow Maniac 7.10
EverReadyBunny 7.10
Dutchie 7.37
Belinda 9.20
Lynda 9.20
Twopennys 9.53
Martin Dougdale Lostgate 50k 9.56
Runbare Lostgate 50k 9.56
Craig (?) 20k Cavesgate ?

I'll leave it a few days for corrections and then post on the fatass site.

Cheers, 2P

Edited by Twopennys, 26 April 2008 - 12:17 PM.

[Dutchie]

Hi 2P,

Thanks for the results.
I made a tiny mistake, however could you correct it anyway.
My garmin reads 7hrs 38min, just a minute difference, but you never know I may want to beat that time next year so every minute counts.

Thanks

[RunBare]

Love the names for the 'options' 2P!  

[RunBare]

I've added a few photos to the CR album here for anyone who is interested.

Edited by RunBare, 26 April 2008 - 09:57 PM.

[Martin Dugdale]

Lostgate????
we simply ran off the map, thats not lost cos we got back onto it. seeing as how we found a meadow, how about Farm gate 50K ?

[RunBare]

2P, I spoke to Craig today and he did 3.08 for 'Cavesgate'