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[20thCenturyBoy]

My ordinary work shoes wear down on the outside of the sole first. Does that mean I overpronate or underpronate? It's just that the running shoes I have are higher on the inside of the sole, which would appear to lift my foot towards the outside. Do you think I have the correct shoes?

[littleblackpug]

Walking biomechanics can vary greatly to running biomechanics, so it's apples and oranges to compair I'm sorry!

Other more knoweldgable CR's may be more help but.....

[Cato]

20thCenturyBoy, on Apr 16 2008, 04:02 PM, said:

My ordinary work shoes wear down on the outside of the sole first. Does that mean I overpronate or underpronate? It's just that the running shoes I have are higher on the inside of the sole, which would appear to lift my foot towards the outside. Do you think I have the correct shoes?

You are a pronator.

Sounds like you have running shoes intended for a supernator.

If you are having any problems go and see a podiatrist or an orthotist.

Alternatively contact "Steve the Footman" on this web site. He is an expert and his advice would be very helpful.

Cato

[FakePlasticTrees]

I read it differently to Cato. I read that he's a supinator (wear on outside of sole) and has shoes for a over-pronator (tries to prevent the foot from rolling in).

BTW Everybody should pronate you just shouldn't over pronate.

[brizza]

everyone could be right here depending on your viewpoint because you may have a classic rear foot varus which behaves like a supinated foot in some shoes and a pronated foot in others,the rearfoot varus can be compensated for by other movements or uncompensated by shoes and vice versa.i wonder if you are asking the question here because of the percieved paradoxical wear pattern-briz

[Wida]

20thCenturyBoy, on Apr 16 2008, 03:32 PM, said:

My ordinary work shoes wear down on the outside of the sole first. Does that mean I overpronate or underpronate?

It sounds like you may underpronate. Check out this link (gait analysis), I think it's one of the better videos showing what pronation actually is.

Wida

[Colsy]

Love this topic. And thank you for that video Wida.
I think this is why the Athletes Foot sucks a bit. They take analysis of you walking across the plate, but it is for running that we buy the shoes.
See a Pod for a proper analysis........(note to self....see a Pod..)

[SouthAustralian]

colsy, on Apr 16 2008, 06:54 PM, said:

Love this topic. And thank you for that video Wida.
I think this is why the Athletes Foot sucks a bit. They take analysis of you walking across the plate, but it is for running that we buy the shoes.
See a Pod for a proper analysis........(note to self....see a Pod..)

(note to Colsy....Go and see Adam Wiles (pod) at Joggers World, Pirie Street...don't talk about it....go do it)
Frank

[Duffman]

Like any other sign or symptom, it's imposible to come to a diagnosis based solely on wear pattern interpretation (eg: you cant fit shoes properly based on somebody's footprint alone - I love this topic too ).
Complimentary findings (such as a detailed patient history, WB and non-WB assessment, gait analysis etc) build greater supporting evidence of the causitive factors behind your symptoms.
As a quick example, I have a textbook neutral footprint and neutral wear-pattern caused by a severe bilateral forefoot varus, hallux limitus and adducted leg/inverted foot at heel strike (not too mention a barrel of monkeys worth of other issues). This basically means I load the lateral column of my foot quite heavily when I run. Despite this, I have a veerrry pronated foot type during midstance and I mean pronated to the point where it looks like it will snap off, and a history of medial ankle pain.
Out of curiousity I went to a shoe store one day that happened to use foot print analysis to fit shoes. Funnily enough I was assured I had what was known as a 'neutral foot-type' even after I dropped the big clue that I had Tib Post tendonitis from running in neutral shoes previously. Moral of the story is keep an open mind and look at all the evidence before jumping to conclusions.
I seem to have gone off on a bit of a tangent but as most have already said go see a good sports pod if you have any concerns.

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Edited by Duffman, 17 April 2008 - 01:53 AM.

[kathmandu]

20thCB,

Can you make it down to the Distance Running Seminar at the wamc rooms on sunday???

Darryn Sargant will be there (Perth pod) and last year he made it all so clear for me, im sure this year will be the same. He ran thru foot types, foot lingo, gait, injuries and shoe selection. I learned heaps.

Tis only $10 for the seminar and theres other great speakers too.

[20thCenturyBoy]

PsychoChicken, on Apr 17 2008, 07:03 AM, said:

20thCB,

Can you make it down to the Distance Running Seminar at the wamc rooms on sunday???

Darryn Sargant will be there (Perth pod) and last year he made it all so clear for me, im sure this year will be the same. He ran thru foot types, foot lingo, gait, injuries and shoe selection. I learned heaps.

Tis only $10 for the seminar and theres other great speakers too.

Wow so many answers! I must be thick 'cos I'm still no clearer
Psycho - what time is the seminar at? Dunno if I can make it, I'm doing the Gallipoli run but I'll have the family with me.

[20thCenturyBoy]

brizza, on Apr 16 2008, 03:29 PM, said:

everyone could be right here depending on your viewpoint because you may have a classic rear foot varus which behaves like a supinated foot in some shoes and a pronated foot in others,the rearfoot varus can be compensated for by other movements or uncompensated by shoes and vice versa.i wonder if you are asking the question here because of the percieved paradoxical wear pattern-briz

Yes, basically it does seem a paradox!
Although - since I have had my new running shoes (Asics Foundation 7, which are for overpronators) - I have had no issues with my ankles. I've only had them for a week though. I didn't actually ask for motion-compensation when I bought them, and I wasn't tested. Just wondering if I'm using inappropriate runners.

[kathmandu]

20thCenturyBoy, on Apr 17 2008, 09:48 AM, said:

Psycho - what time is the seminar at? Dunno if I can make it, I'm doing the Gallipoli run but I'll have the family with me.

1pm-5pm Sunday at Burswood
Heres the info Distance Running Seminar
You can phone up Bob from Runners World and pay over the phone, if you cant dash down there before Sat to register.
Hope you can make it, you'll learn heaps, it'll be the best $10 you'll spend, promise (or I'll give you the $10 back for giving you a bum steer!!!).