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#1 chucky98

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:09 PM

Any plans for a Otford to Bundeena this year? Late November early December?

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 12:09 AM

I haven't heard of any plans yet.
Last year the NPWS were snooping around after the run and if we get 170 again then someone will get into trouble.
However it is fat ass so anything could happen by anyone!

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 11:43 AM

I hope they have it. I haven't run it before but have walked it a couple of times. Would like to run it.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 12:11 PM

rest assured something will happen at some point in time - it is such a great track that it would impossible to conceive that we would not run it.

(do you get the feeling we are being deliberately vague ?)

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 01:49 PM

Could it be done as a night-time run? Planned for a full moon  :) . That would keep the numbers down and NPWS would never even know.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 01:54 PM

View PostFats, on Jul 25 2008, 01:49 PM, said:

Could it be done as a night-time run? Planned for a full moon  :) . That would keep the numbers down and NPWS would never even know.

Given the number of falls in the sand last year you might even be lucky enough to lose a couple on the way through.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 01:59 PM

View PostFats, on Jul 25 2008, 01:49 PM, said:

Could it be done as a night-time run? Planned for a full moon  :) . That would keep the numbers down and NPWS would never even know.

I managed to fall over twice last year as it was, but I'm in, loved it last year, actually running over those rock platforms would be quite spooky by headlight and full moon!

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 02:37 PM

View PostFats, on Jul 25 2008, 01:49 PM, said:

Could it be done as a night-time run? Planned for a full moon  :) . That would keep the numbers down and NPWS would never even know.


Great idea Fats,

I'm in!

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 02:51 PM

"Bump"

Have walked and camped this a number of times, would love to run it with CR's.

Last year sounded like everyone had a great time.

Hope it goes ahead....even if its on the quite  :)

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:20 PM

I've done this run in the dark (Started B2O2B at 4am).

It's fine except when you hear what sounds like a giant rock slide coming down on top of you only to find out it is the sound of about 30 deer sprinting across the rocks in front of you.  

My avatar is actually a pic of the sun rising over Marley beach and is still one of the best times I've ever had running.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:54 PM

I am super keen, day or night.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 05:45 PM

Quote

My avatar is actually a pic of the sun rising over Marley beach and is still one of the best times I've ever had running.

I ran that way last weekend, in the dark, without a torch. Marley was superb as the moon came up.

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 11:41 AM

A sekret night time fatass  :)  sounds great. Maybe we could do it Flash Mob style. Either way I will do it again, be it with a group or maybe I just happen to turn up for a run the same day as a number of other people who by chance happen to be like minded and happen to want to do the same thing

Edited by inhisshadow, 26 July 2008 - 11:42 AM.


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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:49 PM

View Postinhisshadow, on Jul 26 2008, 11:41 AM, said:

Maybe we could do it Flash Mob style.

Hmm..Flash Fatass, sounds interesting :)

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:50 PM

View PostJoggerKev, on Jul 25 2008, 05:45 PM, said:

Marley was superb as the moon came up.

Superb I'm sure, but spooky!!!

Didn't Moon depart this life in 1978 & Marley in 1981?

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View Postlittleblackpug, on Jul 26 2008, 12:49 PM, said:

Hmm..Flash Fatass, sounds interesting :)

Sure, as long as it's a new moon.  Otherwise there'll be too many moons.

db.

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 05:12 PM

View Postlittleblackpug, on Jul 26 2008, 12:49 PM, said:

Hmm..Flash Fatass, sounds interesting :D

I'm not flashing my Fat Ass at anyone!!!!!  :)

Will run it fully clothed thankyou, Day or Night!!!!

Cheers
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 05:49 PM

I have run this trail at night several times - but not for a year or two - it is very difficult to do it in secret because the security guards chase you!!!  If doing it a night, it is best to keep your torches off near both Watamolla and Garie beaches.  The security guards are p***ks - they shine very bright torches in your eyes and yell at you.  The last security guards that I met when passing through Watamolla at night scared the s**t out of me - the police were called in and the whole thing was just unpleasant.  In their defence they had spent a lot of time chasing illegal shooters - and the assumed that we were the illegal shooters.

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:09 PM

hopefully those illegal shooters are smart enough to realise that the resident deer don't wear headlights :)

...considering my opinions of shooter's IQ's

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:13 PM

View Postlittleblackpug, on Jul 26 2008, 07:09 PM, said:

hopefully those illegal shooters are smart enough to realise that the resident deer don't wear headlights :)

...considering my opinions of shooter's IQ's


Maybe you need to pack your own "heat".

i.e. the odd fierce pug.

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 11:29 PM

I'm in. Although obviously, if a few other people happened to run it on the same day, that would be pure coincidence. Cough.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 11:16 AM

Bump

Daylight savings starts soon,  who would like to coincidentally meet on a certain day at a certain time and go for a "fast bush walk" through some beautiful Australian country side?  8)


1st or second weekend in Oct?   :)

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 10:40 PM

count me in.

I ran this track with 2 others in early Feb (bucketing rain; extremely cold... but what an experience).  Due to the nature of this track, with some paths "covered" by vegetation, sometimes the track was nearly impossible to find, It would be very dangerous to do at night..

The sun rising over those maginificent headlands is such an exceptional sight. I want to see those sights again.

After our run in Feb, the hilarious part was sitting in a lovely cafe at Bundeena, absolutely frozen to the bone still in our wet clothes, water pooling at our feet drinking hot coffees .... because our spare clothing was locked in a car outside the cafe but the keys to that car were in another car at Otford ... thank you to the lovely ladies who allowed us in for coffee and gave us a mop to clean up before we left. (at least we had some money with us) :)

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 11:46 PM

1st 2nd weekend of October to close to Melbourne Marathon!!!!!
Me and some friends will be running in early Dec?????????

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 07:50 AM

Yeah its great to see OTB happening as an informal run, but guess what - the reason you got 140 last year is because its a world class course! Europs has Jungfrau and Mont Blanc, Australia has sea and sand. Isn't about time someone got a group together including sponsors with money and created a well organised, well publicised event which inspired more than a select few?? Might be harder to say no to your permit too if it had some backing...

Just stirring, I know how hard that job is, but its a thought

Edited by Greg_Waite, 09 September 2008 - 07:51 AM.


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Posted 09 September 2008 - 08:37 AM

I am very confident that there will be a daytime fat ass on O2B in December as a daytime run as this is superb training for Six Foot (my fave race), but the date is undecided yet for various reasons..

I was half thinking of the night time run, the evening before (thus making it an out'n'back for some). It might help with car shuffling. Given a night time run would attract a lot fewer runners, and it would be dark (doh!) and the scarcity of trail markings, I suspect the night time run would be for reasonably confident runnners (or small groups that know they will stick together)

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 12:30 PM

Hi Kev,

I'm interested in a night time run along this course. Let me know when its on.

Thanks

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 12:26 AM

I think we should do this run on Saturday 6th December, starting Otford at 7am (same as last 2 years).
I have moved this thread to a members -only-viewable section of CR in an attempt to reduce the number of runners attending, but happy if you tell others by word of mouth. I request that it not be added to the fatass calendar - last year with so many people it is difficult to fly under the radar.
For those who want to start early at 6am, be my guest - be good to spread the load.
Happy to arrange a car shuffle from the finish closer to the time.
BYO maps/drinks.

More info per last year:
http://www.coolrunni...ord_to_Bundeena

It would be cool if people hung around at the end for a swim in the sea close to the ferry wharf.

Note - other 6ft training runs on:
1st Jan - Berowra Black Stump
1st Feb - Megalong Mega

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 09:44 AM

View PostJoggerKev, on Sep 26 2008, 12:26 AM, said:

I have moved this thread to a members -only-viewable section of CR in an attempt to reduce the number of runners attending, but happy if you tell others by word of mouth. I request that it not be added to the fatass calendar - last year with so many people it is difficult to fly under the radar of the npws.
Mmmm... so if I come I better not roll up in my work truck then - the one with the lyrebirds on the side

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 09:55 AM

View Postslowmo, on Sep 26 2008, 09:44 AM, said:

Mmmm... so if I come I better not roll up in my work truck then - the one with the lyrebirds on the side

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:rolleyes:

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 08:57 PM

I am in. I ran it for the first time a couple of weeks ago and loved it. We struggled a bit in the heat of the day so I am hoping for a better attempt next time.

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Posted 27 September 2008 - 07:52 PM

I'm in if theres anyone slow enough to stay with me

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 07:34 AM

Hi All

Does anyone know if this Fatass run is happening later this year?
Last year's O2B was my first Fatass run and I really would like to improve on my pwp of last year

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 07:56 AM

The topic has been discussed on another thread but last time I read it, there was no fixed date yet.

Edited by dickyboy, 01 October 2008 - 08:01 AM.


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Posted 01 October 2008 - 10:10 AM

just scroll up a bit ;-)

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 12:23 PM

Thanks Dickyboy & JoggerKev.

Beats me how my post ended up on this thread when i added to another :rolleyes: - neat trick  

See you out there

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 02:21 PM

Kev,

Are you (or the new RD) using this as a qualifier for 6FT??  I wasnt sure if you used this one previously, similar to black stump.

I have prodded my wife into doing 6FT this year.  She ran 2006 Fitzroy Falls under qualifying time, but nothing of recent times.  

If it is a qualifier, wife will probably run and I will be playing Mr. Mom.  If so, will have the car to ferry any gear to the end.  


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Posted 04 October 2008 - 05:01 PM

I'm not using it as a qualifier for six foot as I am already qualified :rolleyes:
For Black stump I had reams of names/times and looked for people that ran black stump who were also known finishers JUST under 7hrs at six foot. We could add a qualifying time for o2b - I suspect either 5hrs or 5:30.

However I have gone a bit cold on the idea of qualifying times as though it does definitely help, I now get bombarded by emails from qld/vic/wa asking what is th qualifying time for a half marathon or something local to them.

I might pick a time though. For Megalong, it is under 7hrs.

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 07:16 PM

View PostJoggerKev, on Oct 4 2008, 05:01 PM, said:

I'm not using it as a qualifier for six foot as I am already qualified :rolleyes:

Got me again.

Thanks for the info.  Judging by the interest in the race this year, leaving it to Megalong could be cutting it a bit fine.

Will keep an eye on the threads to see some cutoff times and then I will set Mrs. Hornet for a qualifier.

Rod

Edited by rodthehornet, 04 October 2008 - 07:17 PM.


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Posted 07 October 2008 - 10:58 AM

View PostJoggerKev, on Sep 26 2008, 01:26 AM, said:

I think we should do this run on Saturday 6th December, starting Otford at 7am (same as last 2 years).
I have moved this thread to a members -only-viewable section of CR in an attempt to reduce the number of runners attending, but happy if you tell others by word of mouth. I request that it not be added to the fatass calendar - last year with so many people it is difficult to fly under the radar.
For those who want to start early at 6am, be my guest - be good to spread the load.
Happy to arrange a car shuffle from the finish closer to the time.
BYO maps/drinks.

More info per last year:
http://www.coolrunni...ord_to_Bundeena

It would be cool if people hung around at the end for a swim in the sea close to the ferry wharf.

Note - other 6ft training runs on:
1st Jan - Berowra Black Stump
1st Feb - Megalong Mega

I'm in for this... anyone else up for doing the return trip? Saves on car shuffling :)

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 12:39 PM

The Central Coast HM beckon.

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Posted 10 November 2008 - 09:07 AM

I'll most likely do this unless there's trackwork on that weekend. Will probably park at Cronulla, get the train to Otford then get the Ferry from Bundeena back to Cronulla.

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Posted 10 November 2008 - 05:15 PM

View Postfadoobadas, on Oct 9 2008, 12:39 PM, said:

The Central Coast HM beckon.

Two great runs on the same weekend. One down South and One up North very tempted to run both.

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Posted 10 November 2008 - 06:15 PM

View Postenduro, on Nov 10 2008, 06:15 PM, said:

Two great runs on the same weekend. One down South and One up North very tempted to run both.

It can be done! I did so last year (and may again this year), 2 very different runs, but both worth it!

Edited by littleblackpug, 10 November 2008 - 06:15 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2008 - 08:38 AM

View PostJoggerKev, on Oct 4 2008, 06:01 PM, said:

We could add a qualifying time for o2b - I suspect either 5hrs or 5:30.

However I have gone a bit cold on the idea of qualifying times as though it does definitely help, I now get bombarded by emails from qld/vic/wa asking what is th qualifying time for a half marathon or something local to them.

I might pick a time though.

Hi JoggerKev,

Just bombarding you a tad bit more. Sooo...

Do I take it as a given that O2B is a 6ft qualifying run, qualifying time to be confirmed?
From my perspective I'm happy with a bit of vagueness around the time.  I guess I either run it strongly on the day or not.  Conditions probably influence what is an appropriate time as well.

Thanks for getting it all happening!

TP

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 02:58 PM

So who is up for next week? I'll be heading down from Hornsby if anyone wants to talk carpooling.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:15 PM

LotsaHare and I will be there for this.

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 06:22 AM

I just want to re-iterate - BYO maps if you require one.
The website here contains the correct info, particularly regarding aid/water on the course:
http://www.coolrunni...ord_to_Bundeena

Starts 7am Staurday 6th December.

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 07:24 AM

I was hoping to, but after another disastrous run yesterday, its looking unlikely that I would make the distance.  I may come for the first few km's then turn round.

how long does it take to drive from central Sydney?

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 07:06 AM

Sorry if this has been mentioned previously, but is the start at Otford train station

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 07:15 AM

View Postbesty, on Dec 2 2008, 08:06 AM, said:

Sorry if this has been mentioned previously, but is the start at Otford train station

"Please note the start is at Otford lookout with the smnall car park (not the larger Bald Hill lookout). There is a small car park, but more parking is closer to Otford village. The railway station is approx 500m away. There will be a tap nearby in the town."

From Fatass website O2B page