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[jacksoner]

hey guys, something is really bothering me. I have got a major competition in 3 weeks time and have found that i am consequently getting worse at running. This has only really occured over the past 2 weeks. 2 weeks ago i ran 2:09 for my first run of the season and had a standard week of training prior to the race, however i have found that i have lost all my speed for some unknown reason. I used to be able to cruise 30sec 200m reps but now i have found that i can barely even get through 6 without feeling intense pain and collapsing.....literally. I used to be able to do 400m reps in low 60s and now i can barely do 68s without hitting the wall. what do you think could of happened? I used to be able to sprint, but now i cant at all! pretty much all my speed endurance/speed has going like straight out the window.
i have been diagnosed with piriformis syndrom, but however i dont thinbk its really affecting me during sessions (only before and after does it hurt!)
now on saturday i ran 2.15! which was 6 seconds slower then my race the week prior. i went out and thought i was going alright but found myself dead after the first lap and then heard the timekeeper say i went past in a 66! i was feeling so nackered and flat that day and just kinda bombed out.
i have found that hard training sessions stay with me for a long time and that i cant even train hard 2 days in a row without dieing!
its not that ive given up. i try so hard in training yet i still die even though im running slow times compared to what i normally could run!
whats the best solution considering i have a major race in 3 weeks time and cant afford to have a substantial break?

[CoolRunning Admin]

jacksoner - we have approved this post of yours (ALL your posts need to be approved before others can see them due to persistent dummy-spitting and juvenile behaviour). If you want to ask for advice, please don't abuse the people responding, or anyone else.

Maybe you stayed up too late watching the olympics and your form has suffered over the last week, but may improve now the Olympics have finished ?

[azza]

Maybe don't train hard for the next three weeks?

Combination of injury and lost mojo sounds like you're burnt out - if you can't run hard now, continuing to try isn't going to change that. A rest just might. Just go out and run (without a watch) for about 30-40 minutes, 3-4 times a week for the next three. Or less, of you don't feel up to it.

Good luck!

[Bellthorpe]

Looks like old age is catching up with you jacksoner. Perhaps you should retire from running?

[Rudolf]

this sounds to me like typical anaerobic overtraining, the only remedy is 2x day very slow jog for 30 minutes and absolutely no fast running, no sprints, no intervals, no track no nothing

extra sleep and lots of fresh food - veggies mainly, no processed food.

3 weeks could be just enough time to partialy recover if You stay strictly at the very low end of the aerobic running = active recovery

Edited by Rudolf, 28 August 2008 - 05:04 PM.
recommendation for sex erased - question from a 15yr old

[Bellthorpe]

I wouldn't be too quick to moderate Rudolf's comments, moderators.

After all, jacksoner did choose this very forum to out himself. He's obviously very sexually aware.

[Colsy]

Now now Mr Bellthorpe. Lets not make Kevins' local pharmacy run low on Panadol again.


Have a lsiten to these guys Jacksoner, they know their stuff.

Cut back on the hard and fast and take it slow and steady for a week or two. Get some nice long Kms in, at an easy pace. Dont eat any junk food, at all!

You're not getting worse, you just need to change your plan.



Colsy (the married gay dude)

[Peterhorse]

Hi Jacksoner. welcome back to CR with a great running question this time.

As suggested above, since you have already been in 2:06 shape, you can obviously get back there with the right training.

Even 800m runners should do lots of base building aerobic work i.e. easy paced stuff of a longer distance from which to then put the speed on top - not sure what is recommended for school age these days but say 75% of weekly volume being aerobic, 20% speed endurance, and 5% VO2max to sprint type work. there are differing views on whether to keep this ratio going all season or adjust with more speed towards a race event. either way, check you aerobic work.

my best mate at school was a 1:58-2.00 fella and he and the other cross country guys were doing about 4x8-10k runs at easy pace each morning before school, once a week they would do stairs or hills for strength and only 1-2 reps of 200-400m (warms up of course)

good luck

PH

[lcc]

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Edited by lcc, 30 August 2008 - 07:45 PM.