I'm joining the ranks of those deserting the Kayanos for another brand. (Disappointed with the lack of cushioning; my 2130s were better but in theory had less cushioning.)
My frontrunner for an alternative at the moment is the Trance, but I'm wavering on the size.
The Kayanos are more 'snug' around my toes, whereas the Trances feel a bit roomy there. I already have problems with blisters on the toes so I'm not sure if this will make it better or worse (less pressure may be good but more movement bad?) I tried a 1/2 size down in the Trance which fit more snugly, but maybe too snug... (Wow, 3 'snugs' in 1 post. That's gotta be a first!)
Has anyone else got both Kayano and Trance who could let me know how the sizes compared for them?
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Deserting Kayano For TranceDifferent size?
Started by Shazifaz, Sep 02 2008 04:11 PM
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Posted 02 September 2008 - 04:11 PM
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Posted 02 September 2008 - 07:03 PM
Hi.
In my ongoing quest to find a shoe which does not feel like a torture device I have swapped from kayano to trance, back to kayano and may yet return to trance. I found the opposite to you, kayano feels wider in the toebox for me. Also, kayano is 2E standard while trance is D so trance should be narrower if the brands conform to the industry standard, which they probably do not.
I wore size 11 in both and I felt that the Kayano is a wider shoe, which according to its sizing (2E as opposed to D) it actually is. I would suggest not going down a size in trance, if anything go up a size to compensate for the D to 2E width difference, but staying in the same size would probably be best.
Just quickly with regard to the cushioning, try to remember that cushioning and softness are not the same thing. The new kayano has so much cushioning in it that asics needed to put a hard plastic plate under the heel to stop the shoe from feeling too soft. AFAIK kayano is actually more cushioned that trance but trance feels softer under your foot.
These opinions have been based upon my experience with Kayano 11, 12, 13 and 14 and trance 7, I have not tried the current trance (8?).
As I am thinking about giving trance another try I would be interested in hearing how you go with this.
Cheers.
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In my ongoing quest to find a shoe which does not feel like a torture device I have swapped from kayano to trance, back to kayano and may yet return to trance. I found the opposite to you, kayano feels wider in the toebox for me. Also, kayano is 2E standard while trance is D so trance should be narrower if the brands conform to the industry standard, which they probably do not.
I wore size 11 in both and I felt that the Kayano is a wider shoe, which according to its sizing (2E as opposed to D) it actually is. I would suggest not going down a size in trance, if anything go up a size to compensate for the D to 2E width difference, but staying in the same size would probably be best.
Just quickly with regard to the cushioning, try to remember that cushioning and softness are not the same thing. The new kayano has so much cushioning in it that asics needed to put a hard plastic plate under the heel to stop the shoe from feeling too soft. AFAIK kayano is actually more cushioned that trance but trance feels softer under your foot.
These opinions have been based upon my experience with Kayano 11, 12, 13 and 14 and trance 7, I have not tried the current trance (8?).
As I am thinking about giving trance another try I would be interested in hearing how you go with this.
Cheers.
edited for spelling gaffes
Edited by tonyfromtas, 02 September 2008 - 07:06 PM.
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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:33 AM
Thanks tonyfromtas, I thought I must have been imagining things. I tried them on at lunchtime and I do notice that my feet naturally seem to change size quite a bit over the day. I think I'll go back on the weekend in the morning with my Kayanos for direct comparison.
I think I know what you're saying about cushioning / softness, but I still think there's just something not right with the Kayano 14s. Last year I trained for and ran a half over a few months in 2130s without a problem. I did exactly the same thing this year (similar kms, same training routes even!) but in Kayanos. Within weeks of getting them, I started getting shin pain, which has now got to the point that I'm only doing 1 (or sometimes even no) midweek training runs, just so I can keep up my weekend long run.
Maybe the Kayanos just aren't for me. I may go back to the 2130s, but am generally just a bit off Asics now.
I'll let you know how I go if I get the Brooks. By torture, what's normally the issue for you with the beloved sneaker? Shins? Blisters? The fact that they come in RIDICULOUS colours? (Actually I think that's mostly a problem with the ladies range...)
I think I know what you're saying about cushioning / softness, but I still think there's just something not right with the Kayano 14s. Last year I trained for and ran a half over a few months in 2130s without a problem. I did exactly the same thing this year (similar kms, same training routes even!) but in Kayanos. Within weeks of getting them, I started getting shin pain, which has now got to the point that I'm only doing 1 (or sometimes even no) midweek training runs, just so I can keep up my weekend long run.
Maybe the Kayanos just aren't for me. I may go back to the 2130s, but am generally just a bit off Asics now.
I'll let you know how I go if I get the Brooks. By torture, what's normally the issue for you with the beloved sneaker? Shins? Blisters? The fact that they come in RIDICULOUS colours? (Actually I think that's mostly a problem with the ladies range...)
