Busselton Half Ironman 2009Who's in?
#1
Posted 19 February 2009 - 10:53 PM
I've entered, who else is going?
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#3
Posted 20 February 2009 - 10:04 PM
I think everybody feels they haven't done as much training as they should - it seems to be the natural state of things when training for these events. Still better to be a little underdone than overdone.
Good luck with your training. I'm doing a little taper this week as I have a 100k MTB ride next weekend which I want to survive. Then I'll be getting stuck into the HIM training. Are you doing any shorter races before Busso?
#4
Posted 21 February 2009 - 06:50 AM
Suzy, on Feb 20 2009, 10:04 PM, said:
I think everybody feels they haven't done as much training as they should - it seems to be the natural state of things when training for these events. Still better to be a little underdone than overdone.
Good luck with your training. I'm doing a little taper this week as I have a 100k MTB ride next weekend which I want to survive. Then I'll be getting stuck into the HIM training. Are you doing any shorter races before Busso?
Hi Suzy,
yeah i'm at no risk of being overdone
I'm planning on doing the city of perth oly, and maybe the one at point walter too.
Busso is a real stretch for me, they'll be my first oly's - i'm just going to give it a shot, and I only aim to finish.
a 100km MTB ride, sounds really cool - what's the event?
#5
Posted 21 February 2009 - 12:06 PM
The 100k MTB ride is the Karri Cup www.karricup.com.au My first time in an MTB enduro - just hope its not too technical.
#6
Posted 21 February 2009 - 12:23 PM
Suzy, on Feb 21 2009, 01:06 PM, said:
The 100k MTB ride is the Karri Cup www.karricup.com.au My first time in an MTB enduro - just hope its not too technical.
The Karri Cup looks like a heap of fun, maybe I'll have a go at it next year!
#7
Posted 21 February 2009 - 12:43 PM
serena
#8
Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:56 PM
Suzy, on Feb 21 2009, 11:06 AM, said:
The 100k MTB ride is the Karri Cup www.karricup.com.au My first time in an MTB enduro - just hope its not too technical.
Hey Suzy Im doing Busselton for my first Half IM, I have a strange question for you, what do you do about reapplying sunscreen. Eg when do you do it or don't you bother.
#9
Posted 26 February 2009 - 07:18 AM
kb
#10
Posted 26 February 2009 - 12:57 PM
Lou
#11
Posted 26 February 2009 - 12:58 PM
#12
Posted 26 February 2009 - 08:26 PM
#13
Posted 27 February 2009 - 05:19 PM
1.Make sure you can do the distance for each leg in your training buildup (not all on the same day). This will give you confidence for race day.
2. If you're not a strong swimmer then start at the back to the side so you won't get caught up in the crush at the start. Then when everyone's spread out a bit try to find someone about your pace or a little faster to draft off.
3. Have a plan for transistions, practice it, and remember it on race day. eg cap, goggles and wetsuit off, dry feet on towel, sunscreen on, bike shoes on, number belt on, sunnies on, helmet on, go!
4. Pace yourself - don't go out too hard, remember its a long day and you have plenty of time. If you feel good the last lap of the run this is the time to go for it - not before.
5. Practice your nutrition - find what works for you. Rough rule of thumb is 750ml fluid per hr and around 60g carbs per hr. Use a sports drink with good electrolyte levels - cramping on the run is not fun.
6. Smile, enjoy your race, remember to thank the volunteers and your loved ones.
There you have it - my general guide. Hope it helps. If theres something more specific you wanted help with let me know.
#14
Posted 03 March 2009 - 03:31 PM
The whole idea of a half ironman just seems overwhelming. Nutritian, hydration etc isn't that much of an issue for the short tri's I have done so far but obviously I need to start thinking about it.
Outside of this I have completed a couple of half marathons and swum to Rotto in duo/team a few times. The ride is my biggest down fall and the biggest part so need to improve in leaps and bounds here. And of course pulling it all together.
If you have any training programes for the bike that would be great to. Thanks again.
#15
Posted 03 March 2009 - 04:08 PM
#16
Posted 03 March 2009 - 04:21 PM
Suzy, on Feb 27 2009, 05:19 PM, said:
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There you have it - my general guide. Hope it helps. If theres something more specific you wanted help with let me know.
hi suzy, do you (or does anyone else) know what is being provided for drinks / carbs / lytes?
i'd like to practice with the stuff I'll be using on the day!
#17
Posted 03 March 2009 - 05:11 PM
OK Kilee here is a sample weekly bike programme for the half:
1 x Long ride: build up to 3-4hrs, aerobic pace, with transition to run 15' off bike. Practice race nutrition.
1 x Tempo intervals: total time 75-90mins include 3-5 x 8mins at 82-85% maxHR with 2-3min spin recovery
1 x Aerobic ride: 60-75mins focus on good technique, spin at 90rpm
if time allows you can do a 4th ride as follows:
1 x Brick: 60min moderate pace ride, quick transition to 30' mod fast run.
You would do your longest ride and run 3 weeks out from the race then begin your taper (reduce distance but keep intensity up).
Hope this makes sense, if not sure please ask and I'll try to make my ramblings make more sense.
#18
Posted 03 March 2009 - 10:09 PM
#19
Posted 04 March 2009 - 10:40 AM
Suzy, on Mar 3 2009, 06:11 PM, said:
hi suzy,
is this where you looked?
http://www.busselton.../event-info.htm
i ask because that info is for last year, not sure if it'll be the same this year.
btw - what do you use for carbs? for the half marathon i did i just used some snakes
#20
Posted 04 March 2009 - 11:19 AM
guinness, on Mar 4 2009, 09:40 AM, said:
is this where you looked?
http://www.busselton.../event-info.htm
i ask because that info is for last year, not sure if it'll be the same this year.
btw - what do you use for carbs? for the half marathon i did i just used some snakes
Hi Guinness, I have been trying out various gel shots. Seems the GU brand is the best but is difficult to get down - eg consistancy of raw egg white. The citrus flavours are the best but sting the throat after the first few but then maybe thats just me. GU also seems to be the ones that you don't have to have that often. Some of them are every 30min whereas GU are 45min to 60min.
#21
Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:06 PM
I like to take sports drink (High 5 is my current preference) in a fuel belt, and have a gel every hr (again High 5) washed down with water. Similar on the bike - 1 bottle sports drink + 1 gel per hr.
Kilee, the reason you only take GU every 45mins is because it has more carbs in it, so if you took it more often you would go over the recommended hourly amount. Other gels have lesser amounts and recommend you take them more frequently. This could be a good thing because it means you are getting smaller amounts more often - thus spreading the load - rather than dumping a large amount in all at once which could lead to stomach upsets. Best thing is to try out a few different ones and see what works best for you.
#22
Posted 04 March 2009 - 07:11 PM
Suzy, on Mar 4 2009, 04:06 PM, said:
ah yes, that seems logical i'll try shotz then - thanks
#23
Posted 04 March 2009 - 11:27 PM
I'm in (The things that seem like a good idea over a beer at the end of a run!!)
This is a real first timer question.
On the bike leg I assume the drink station "bidons" fit a standard bike bottle holder.
I guess then that to refill an aero bottle (mounted on the tri bars) involves decanting from the new bidon into the aero bottle "on the fly"
I have only been riding for a short time (had to buy a bike for the race) so do you think I might be better off just using the bottles rather than try juggling and riding or is there a secret "triathlete trick"
Thanks Mike
#24
Posted 05 March 2009 - 08:29 AM
Ah yes the aero bottle. It is possible to refill it "on the fly" but it is messy if using sports drink as inevitably some splashes out over your handle bars and you. If its only water then this isn't really a problem. You have to open the lid on your bottle, remove the foamy mesh thing from your aerobottle, and single handedly pour the contents in trying not to spill any, all the while steering your bike. I guess the simplest way if you're not too concerned with time would be to stop and refill it.
If you can't be bothered with that fiddling around then just use standard bottles. If you have 2 bidon cages and the aerobottle then you probably wouldn't need a refill anyway - your 3 bidons worth should be all you need, unless you like to drink more.
#25
Posted 05 March 2009 - 11:16 PM
Suzy, on Mar 5 2009, 06:29 AM, said:
Ah yes the aero bottle. It is possible to refill it "on the fly" but it is messy if using sports drink as inevitably some splashes out over your handle bars and you. If its only water then this isn't really a problem. You have to open the lid on your bottle, remove the foamy mesh thing from your aerobottle, and single handedly pour the contents in trying not to spill any, all the while steering your bike. I guess the simplest way if you're not too concerned with time would be to stop and refill it.
If you can't be bothered with that fiddling around then just use standard bottles. If you have 2 bidon cages and the aerobottle then you probably wouldn't need a refill anyway - your 3 bidons worth should be all you need, unless you like to drink more.
Thanks Suzy
I think I'll stick to the old school bottles.
I have been doing 100Km on 2 bottles but havn't had to run far afterwards.
Whilst not too concerned about time it would be nice to get in about the 5.30 mark.
You seem to have become the agony aunt for the Busso' Half
Mike
#26
Posted 06 March 2009 - 11:43 AM
MikeMSM, on Mar 5 2009, 11:16 PM, said:
I think I'll stick to the old school bottles.
I have been doing 100Km on 2 bottles but havn't had to run far afterwards.
Whilst not too concerned about time it would be nice to get in about the 5.30 mark.
Mike
hi mike, good work on the bike - you're ahead of me there! i'm still building distance and getting a stiff neck from leaning forward for so long!
I'm hoping to do <6hrs, would be awesome to do 5:30 ... well good luck with the training. main issue for me will be not drowning in the swim
Cheers, Greg
PS: I have the aerobar drink thing - not sure I'm doing it right but it's working for me. I dont use the yellow mesh thing, to fill it I just grab a water bottle and insert it into the black foam filler hole and squeeze the bottle - it fills pretty quick & easy. I think the yellow mesh is supposed to stop splashes??? but I dont get many, and am usually happy to get a bit of a water shower to cool me down anyway.
#27
Posted 06 March 2009 - 11:46 AM
You'll probably find that you go through more fluids and energy in the race than what you're used to in training because you'll be working a lot harder. Try to shoot for 1 bidon per hr on the bike. Practice this in training so your stomach is used to it. You don't want to start the run dehydrated or depleted in energy.
#28
Posted 08 March 2009 - 04:17 PM
How is everyone elses training going?
#29
Posted 08 March 2009 - 05:49 PM
Suzy, on Mar 8 2009, 04:17 PM, said:
How is everyone elses training going?
while i am not training for this specific event I do have a HIM on my my mind so thought I would add a comment.
I did some hills and an undulating ride (around 90km) and also did a 50km ride then right onto a 10km run - sessions both felt ok
had a good rest day today - swimming coming along slowly and considering I could literally barely swim a year ago (I could save myself but no concept of swimming for sport) I am happy at the progress
with some half maras coming up and some good rides I think I should expect some gains - hopfully the swims will improve as well
best of luck with the training....
#30
Posted 08 March 2009 - 10:44 PM
One of the great things about tri's is the variety that comes with training for 3 different sports - theres always something new to learn, improvements to be made, and you don't get bored. Best of luck with your training.
#31
Posted 09 March 2009 - 08:33 AM
Suzy, on Mar 8 2009, 10:44 PM, said:
One of the great things about tri's is the variety that comes with training for 3 different sports - theres always something new to learn, improvements to be made, and you don't get bored. Best of luck with your training.
this week is the last Bribie race sprint distance at 750/20/5 then the cootha challenge (70km including timed cootha climb - if your not local its a sharp climb for about 3km maybe)
the a week off and onto a half mara (my first official half mara race)
I did a group ride this morning - felt fine so will move to the next level during the week - I am ure they wil push me harder!!!!
Got speed work for running tomorrow and strength and conditioning in the gym tonight.
I will post up my results as I go - it's good to hear about everyones progress
#32
Posted 10 March 2009 - 11:55 AM
Came good yesterday with 64.5km in 2 1/2 hours on relatively flat course. Thank god Bussleton is mostly flat.
#33
Posted 10 March 2009 - 05:35 PM
#34
Posted 10 March 2009 - 06:59 PM
Kilee, on Mar 10 2009, 12:55 PM, said:
I've got a long way to go too Kilee.
I did 2km of breast stroke in the pool yesterday, because I gasp for breath after 500m of freestyle. I wanted to know how long it'd take me if I'm forced to do breaststroke - due to breathlessness, panic attack from the new experience of swimming in a wettie, or from getting kicked in the head too much
suzy : nice encouraging post, and i think you're right the excitement of the day will count for a lot!
#35
Posted 11 March 2009 - 10:39 AM
The swim is the easy bit for me, pity it is such a small part. I guess this is why people do these things as a team. We have 3 solo's and 2 teams competing this year which is massive from the 1 team we had last year. I only did the run last year and got caught up in the hype which has prompted me to do the whole thing this year.
I am scared but excited.
#37
Posted 11 March 2009 - 04:51 PM
Who can forget the kicks to the head
Yep I know that feeling. Couldn't agree with you more.
#38
Posted 27 March 2009 - 08:05 PM
#39
Posted 27 March 2009 - 10:41 PM
Suzy, on Mar 27 2009, 08:05 PM, said:
let us know how it goes suzy.
i'd be interested to know who helped you with the set up - particularly if you're happy with it.
i just mucked around with mine myself ...
#40
Posted 28 March 2009 - 06:08 PM
#41
Posted 30 March 2009 - 10:52 PM
Suzy, on Mar 28 2009, 07:08 PM, said:
sounds worthwhile - when i'm a bit more cashed up i'll definitely look into getting fitted
#42
Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:50 AM
guinness, on Mar 10 2009, 06:59 PM, said:
I did 2km of breast stroke in the pool yesterday, because I gasp for breath after 500m of freestyle. I wanted to know how long it'd take me if I'm forced to do breaststroke - due to breathlessness, panic attack from the new experience of swimming in a wettie, or from getting kicked in the head too much
suzy : nice encouraging post, and i think you're right the excitement of the day will count for a lot!
Hey there everyone.
I signed up for Busselton half just the other day, my 3rd Half Ironman distance after Capricorn 2008 and Hell of the West (Heaven of the west, best event ever, look it up!) 2009.
Some good info on the blog, it’s nice to see other people are as interested and nervous as I am.
Guiness: I’m not a great swimmer either, I do breast stroke in all of my events to date, and it has served me well. My times for Capricorn (water temp was 16.9, and I was one of only 4 people without a wetsuit!) was 45min. I’ve just ordered my new wetsuit for swimming in the deep south of Busselton, so I’m excited to see if my time will improve. (though I would probably be better served by actually doing some training…)
Good luck everyone. Hope the training goes well.
#43
Posted 01 April 2009 - 12:34 AM
ckratzing, on Mar 31 2009, 12:50 PM, said:
I signed up for Busselton half just the other day, my 3rd Half Ironman distance after Capricorn 2008 and Hell of the West (Heaven of the west, best event ever, look it up!) 2009.
Some good info on the blog, it’s nice to see other people are as interested and nervous as I am.
Guiness: I’m not a great swimmer either, I do breast stroke in all of my events to date, and it has served me well. My times for Capricorn (water temp was 16.9, and I was one of only 4 people without a wetsuit!) was 45min. I’ve just ordered my new wetsuit for swimming in the deep south of Busselton, so I’m excited to see if my time will improve. (though I would probably be better served by actually doing some training…)
Good luck everyone. Hope the training goes well.
hi ckratzing, i hope to see you at Busso!
Nice to hear you've had some good experience with doing breast stroke - I'm probably only 10 minutes quicker over 2km doing freestyle - but then i'm exhausted. i will definitely be mixing breaststroke and freestyle. I know it's not cool, but hey - it'll get the job done, and i'll be so much better on the bike for it.
I'm a newb to wetsuits, but i hear they can freak people out if they cant catch their breath... something i will need to get used to, lucky there's still 4.5 weeks left to go
good luck with the training
Edited by guinness, 01 April 2009 - 12:36 AM.
#44
Posted 11 April 2009 - 09:39 AM
1. I love my new wetsuit! I cant believe how much it helps, i'm no longer plowing through the water on a 45 degree angle with my legs sinking a metre underneath me... wow swimming on top of the water is so much more efficient
2. what are they thinking with the swim wave times???
from the bussohalf website
• Then approximately 4 age group and team wave starts to follow :
8:02 am – Male Low
8:05 am – Male High
8:08 am – Female
8:20 am – Teams
Male Low: 25-29, 35-39, 45-49, 55-59
Male High: 18-24, 30-34, 40-44, 50-54, 60+
Wave start times subject to change based on final competitor numbers
this means probably 95% of the "male high" group are going to swim over me, then a few minutes later 90% of the women, and then probably the fastest 10% of the team swimmers will pass me with a few hundred metres to go!
If i'm in your way as you go past, I apologise in advance - given the choice I'd seed my self at the back and on the side, but it doesnt seem like i have much choice!!!
#45
Posted 11 April 2009 - 03:35 PM
I was wondering the same thing with the wave starts. At least they haven't put all the women off first this time. I like to let all the faster people get ahead then I can relax and enjoy my swim. I guess you can still seed yourself within your group and then when the next wave starts to come through just move aside a little and try to latch onto their feet for the ride.
I did a 80min bike/60min run brick this morning and now I'm really tired. Its feet up on the couch and eating easter eggs for the rest of the day for me! 4hr ride planned for tomorrow so need to replenish some carbs. Happy Easter everyone.
#46
Posted 11 April 2009 - 03:39 PM
Gutted.
I've been holding out as I entered last year but missed it due illness. Trying to get on a wait list but looks like they're inundated with entries. All that training for nada! Oh well, at least I can ditch the bike for a few months and get back into marathon training. This ironman stuff was really getting in the way. Maybe third time lucky next year?
If anyone has any team spots up for grabs or need a runner (or cyclist or swimmer in descending priority), feel free to let me know!Gutted.
#47
Posted 11 April 2009 - 04:21 PM
Suzy, on Mar 28 2009, 04:08 PM, said:
I just had my bike adjusted by Andrew earlier this week. So did both of my training partners. Went out for my first ride yesterday and are having problems getting comfortable. I put that down to the major changes and I just have to get used to it. He was certainly a wealth of information though and I would highly recommend seeing him.
#48
Posted 11 April 2009 - 07:18 PM
#49
Posted 11 April 2009 - 07:23 PM
#50
Posted 12 April 2009 - 06:48 PM
Suzy, on Apr 11 2009, 04:35 PM, said:
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I did a 80min bike/60min run brick this morning and now I'm really tired.
hi Suzy, I've got the zoot z1, I got it from total triathlon - they were very helpful in finding me one that fit. the zoot was a bit more $ than I wanted to spend, as I was hoping for a real entry level wetsuit (appropriate since I'm a newb) - but the zoot fit much better around my shoulders.
I am having some chaffing problems around the neck - have tried "suit juice" and vaseline but still no success yet ... any advice???
that's a pretty big brick Suzy! you can certainly feel like you've earned your easter eggs!















