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#1 goal80kg

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 11:08 AM

Hi Everyone,

I have just started running again after a few years of getting fat and I am really hurting with shin pain. I have tried heaps of shoes and the other day I found some orthotics that a guy at Nth Syd made for me a few years ago. I wacked them in and pain is gone :unsure:

My drama however is that they are very hard under my feet and causing blisters, also they dont seem to fit properly in shoes at the heal area, my foot is quite high in the shoe and my heal feels like it is coming out of the shoe when I run again causing blisters.

Does anyone have any ideas, my Adidas Respone shoes are ok but the Kayanos and structures are terrible. Can you get orthotics that are not hard ?

Please help I really want to keep running, I made 40k last week !!!

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 11:49 AM

View Postgoal80kg, on Feb 25 2009, 12:08 PM, said:

Hi Everyone,

I have just started running again after a few years of getting fat and I am really hurting with shin pain. I have tried heaps of shoes and the other day I found some orthotics that a guy at Nth Syd made for me a few years ago. I wacked them in and pain is gone :unsure:

My drama however is that they are very hard under my feet and causing blisters, also they dont seem to fit properly in shoes at the heal area, my foot is quite high in the shoe and my heal feels like it is coming out of the shoe when I run again causing blisters.

Does anyone have any ideas, my Adidas Respone shoes are ok but the Kayanos and structures are terrible. Can you get orthotics that are not hard ?

Please help I really want to keep running, I made 40k last week !!!

I wear othotics and I apply Body Glide (anti-blister & chafing stick) to areas of feet where they tend to rub to avoid blisters.

I also had an issue with my one of my feet being high in the shoe due to adjustment on orthotic and had to change my shoe accordingly. I went to an "Active Feet" shoe store and they helped me choose the correct shoe for me which was the Brookes Glycerin.

I can't remember what my orthotic is made out of but they are also hard but I don't have a problem with that. It may pay you to build up usuage in them over time as you haven't worn them in a while. When I first got mine, I was given a regime to follow to get use to them.

Hope that helps and welcome back to running <_<

Edited by running sweetlee, 25 February 2009 - 11:53 AM.


#3 BEN-HUR

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 12:12 PM

Hi 'goal80kg',

View Postgoal80kg, on Feb 25 2009, 12:08 PM, said:

Hi Everyone,

I have just started running again after a few years of getting fat and I am really hurting with shin pain. I have tried heaps of shoes and the other day I found some orthotics that a guy at Nth Syd made for me a few years ago. I wacked them in and pain is gone :unsure:
Good to hear that you have started running & the old orthotics have resolved your shin pain.

View Postgoal80kg, on Feb 25 2009, 12:08 PM, said:

My drama however is that they are very hard under my feet and causing blisters, also they dont seem to fit properly in shoes at the heal area, my foot is quite high in the shoe and my heal feels like it is coming out of the shoe when I run again causing blisters.

Does anyone have any ideas, my Adidas Respone shoes are ok but the Kayanos and structures are terrible. Can you get orthotics that are not hard ?

Please help I really want to keep running, I made 40k last week !!!
Where exactly are the blisters occurring? (i.e. in arch region &/or heel?).
I prefer to characterise an orthotic, not by its 'hardness' but by its flexibility. The flex of the device is the important functional aspect of the orthotic (apart from the degree of correction) as opposed to 'hardness', as some 'hard' materials flex very well & some 'soft' materials don't flex that much due to the density/thickness used.

I believe that orthotics should be of a semi-flex variety as the foot was designed to flex as to adapt to the contours of the ground as well as absorb shock. Thus a corrective device should be of a similar nature. It thus sounds like your orthotics could be rigid in nature & your foot is having to 'flex' on an unforgiving rigid device thus directing stress on the skin i.e. of arch area... thus contributing to the blisters.

You can get custom made orthotics with semi-flex characteristics that can fit into a variety of shoes - particularly running shoes. It can be a bit difficult however getting an adequate fit into a variety of women's footwear due to the large variety of styles some women wear i.e. court styles.

Sometimes adjustments can be made to orthotics so they fit better into shoes i.e. if the orthotic isn't fitting into the heel cup of your shoes then one could grind some of the width of the orthotic so it sits better in the shoe.

If the orthotics are now not appropriate (despite resolving your shin pain) then you may need a new pair which may be now more appropriate for the long term - particularly now that you have started running.

One other point: By the fact you said that you "found" these orthotics tells me you hadn't been wearing them up until recently. Were you running at the time when you were assessed for the orthotics? Have you then 'broke them in' again? (i.e. walk in them, increasing the amount of time you wore them so the feet & body gradually adapts to this new corrected position.) If not, & you just went running in them, then it is very likely you could get blisters. Also the footwear themselves need to mould/form according to the orthotic & the new foot position in the shoe. Thus if you didn't go through the 'break-in' period again, then I suggest you do so in which case the blister problem could resolve.

All the best.

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 12:51 PM

thanks for the replys. Maybe I should go through a break in process, although it seems I cant run without them as I cant walk for days after running my shins are so bad (this is caused from being 90kg and not running properly for 10 years).

The orthotics were made by a company at Nth Syd that I found on this site about 3 years ago, so they are designed for running. They must flex I suppose they just look rock hard.

I suppose I should see someone again to get it all checked out as I would love to get up to 60k weeks and run the Syd Marathon. Anyone have suggestion of a good pod or shop in North West Syd, as I live and work in the hills district ?

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 09:17 PM

View Postgoal80kg, on Feb 25 2009, 01:51 PM, said:

I suppose I should see someone again to get it all checked out as I would love to get up to 60k weeks and run the Syd Marathon. Anyone have suggestion of a good pod or shop in North West Syd, as I live and work in the hills district ?

Hey, my physio at Epping recommended

Beecroft Podiatry Clinic
21 Wongala Cres Beecroft
02 9875 3200

I went there for an initial consultation, and they seemed good. I have to go back to get the orthotics - was thinking about whether I'd continue running, and I've decided to, so I'll get them. It's good because it opens until 8pm one night and on saturdays. The orthotics cost $480, from memory. The initial consultation fee was $90, (from memory- don't quote me on this).

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 09:38 AM

Otrhotics don't need a break in. If they are not perfect out of the box then there is something wrong with the fit. See a good podiatrist and you will be sorted out. Well done about the 40k. Thats awesome.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:21 AM

Hi

I've been wearing orthotics for a few years now. Initally I suffered from terrible blisters under my arches when running (but not hiking). Later, as I increased my marathon training mileage, I developed injuries. One of my ankles blew up, it looked like there was a tennis ball attached to it, and that was only after a 26 km training run. I could barely walk and was ordered by a physio and a podiatrist to rest. My marathon dreams for that year were over.

I took it easy, took my orthotics with me when I bought new shoes, got my gait analysed (Active Feet are great like that) increased my mileage slowly, and have been fine since. The shoes I use now, are different to the ones I used before.

Alas, they stopped making my preferred off road runners and my orthotics are now too wide for the available shoes. The podiatrist said if necessary, he could adjust my orthotics to fit the shoes. I didn't need to do this, since whilst overseas I found a pair of New Balance shoes that fitted my orthotics.

So maybe go back to your podiatrist, show him your shoes, orthotics and blisters. Mine was a happy ending, hopefully your can be too.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 01:08 PM

View PostNeil H, on Feb 26 2009, 10:38 AM, said:

Otrhotics don't need a break in. If they are not perfect out of the box then there is something wrong with the fit.
Do you know what orthotics are & what they do??

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 01:32 PM

I used to get blisters so bad they bled :unsure: , and after starting on long distances with running I started getting PF so bad I had to hobble every time I stood up for about 5 mins. I got rigid orthidics from a local Pod, and pretty much straight away I have never got blisters and my PF practically dissappeared. My point is that proper fitting orthodics should relieve all that is wrong, not cause other problems, or maybe that is my view and experience. Was about $450 for the orthodics but worth every cent.

Good luck, foot pain is totally disabilitating, and very depressing, I hope you sort it out fast and ramp up the km's free of pain soon!!!!