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[RunningKidCJ]

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i have my very own Coolrunning Stalker now

haha damn im so jealous!!!!   lol

finally new page!!!

[Marmiduke]

The way it works is that from the U/14's to U/20's, each State is represented by two teams at the Australian Cross Country Championships. One team represents the Schools and the other team represents the State Athletics Associations (eg, ANSW).

The Schools team is selected from the NSW All Schools XC Championships and let's say you are in the U/16 age group, the 6 fastest finishers from the 14 years and 15 years races will make up the 6 member U/16's NSW All Schools XC team. In theory, you could win the 14 years race and be the 7th fastest finisher from the combined age groups and miss out on selection in the Schools team. These athletes will run in the individual race on the Saturday as well as the XC Relays on the Monday of the Championships.

Now I'm really disappointed because the chances are further reduced. It's not even top eight anymore.
I'm really sorry, but I still don't understand about what Marvo was saying, how that the 14yrs winner in the hypothetical situation mightn't make the team. And I thought that the age categories were in 14, 15, 16 yrs etc, not in u/16 or u/15? Wouldn't there be six runners chosen for, say, the 14yrs girls race, and those six are all 14, and all ran in the 14yrs race, and came in the top 6 in that particular race.
I've been trying to find the an ANSW website that will tell me something helpful. I find it so hard to find any information on xc. Maybe I don't search very well. Julian, what did you come at Nationals last year? And why did you qualify through athletics and not through the schools system?

[Marmiduke]

The Australian All Schools Cross Country Championships has combined age groups (i.e. U16
= 14yrs & 15yrs, U18 = 16yrs & 17yrs, U20 = 18yrs & 19yrs). Thanks for the link Julian. Now I understand.

Why why why?
If we're going to have combined aged groups at nationals, why didn't we start off with combined age groups at districts?
The qualifying criteria up to this point (State) has all been really straightforward. Will each state send a full team of twelve? Because the top runners in each category would probably qualify through both systems, and you'd end up with some of the same people in each team, wouldn't you?
Gee, I never knew any of this. I'm very disheartened, to be honest. . Only six! And in my category, only six from both the 16 and 17 yrs races, as my category is u/18! And if all the 17 yrs run faster times, none from the 16 yrs!

[B+]

Marmiduke, on Jul 15 2009, 05:44 AM, said:

The way it works is that from the U/14's to U/20's, each State is represented by two teams at the Australian Cross Country Championships. One team represents the Schools and the other team represents the State Athletics Associations (eg, ANSW).

The Schools team is selected from the NSW All Schools XC Championships and let's say you are in the U/16 age group, the 6 fastest finishers from the 14 years and 15 years races will make up the 6 member U/16's NSW All Schools XC team. In theory, you could win the 14 years race and be the 7th fastest finisher from the combined age groups and miss out on selection in the Schools team. These athletes will run in the individual race on the Saturday as well as the XC Relays on the Monday of the Championships.

Now I'm really disappointed because the chances are further reduced. It's not even top eight anymore.
I'm really sorry, but I still don't understand about what Marvo was saying, how that the 14yrs winner in the hypothetical situation mightn't make the team. And I thought that the age categories were in 14, 15, 16 yrs etc, not in u/16 or u/15? Wouldn't there be six runners chosen for, say, the 14yrs girls race, and those six are all 14, and all ran in the 14yrs race, and came in the top 6 in that particular race.
I've been trying to find the an ANSW website that will tell me something helpful. I find it so hard to find any information on xc. Maybe I don't search very well. Julian, what did you come at Nationals last year? And why did you qualify through athletics and not through the schools system?

The way I understand it the 6 fastest times from the 14's and 15's will make up the 6 member team for the u16 race. Hopefully the 2 ge groups will race together at State so you know where you are in the scheme of things. But bottom line is you will need to run fast! By the sounds of your posts though you are well on the way to achieving that. So just race your best and the result will take care of itself.

Train safe

[B+]

Sorry you were too quick on the keyboard.

I think they don't combine prior to state as there are a lot of kids and they want to see the best in each age race on their merits. i.e. no help from older slightly faster runners. By the time you get to State the numbers are less and the standard higher.

So your U16 run fast, race smart and back yourelf late in the race and you may go better than you think you can. If not then next year you will be that much tougher and smarter. All of us face the task of dealing with a less than perfect situation at times. Just do your best.

Train safe

[RunningKidCJ]

marmiduke,
dont worry that your racing older girls. you've been training hard and have as much chance as anyone else.
Plus you always have next year!!!  

CJ

[Marvo]

Hi Marmiduke

Yeah, it is all a bit confusing when you are just starting out and so I'll try and clear it up for you.

The races at Nationals are U/14's, U/16's, U/18's and U/20's, so they are a double age group. In the Primary School age groups they are 10's, 11's and 12's, etc.  

For the High School age groups, you will run in your "own" age group at NSW All Schools XC, so whatever age you are at 31st December 2009 is the race you run at NSW All Schools XC (eg, the 15 years race if you turn 15 in 2009) but for Nationals, the 14 years and 15 years athletes are selected into the U/16's team.  The athletes with the 6 fastest times from the 14's and 15's will be selected for the NSW U/16's All Schools Team to compete at Nationals. In theory, you could win the 14 years race at Eastern Creek but have a slower time than the first 6 finishers in the 15 years race and I just used that to illustrate how the "top 6" works.  It is always tougher for the younger age group in the double age group.

With the ANSW team, they will select the best 6 athletes from those who nominate. I know that Victoria select their two teams (AthsVic and VSSSA) in a similar way to Queensland at one event, so NSW are a little different in that they use three races to qualify but most emphasis is placed on your performance at the ANSW XC Championships held in Nowra in June.  If you haven't competed at any of the ANSW events, then there's always next year and so have a chat with your coach about the ANSW pathway for next year if you don't make it through Schools.  Either way, it always good to race the ANSW events as they are great fun and give you extra race practice.

Run well at All Schools and you never know what will happen!!

Marvo

Edited by Marvo, 15 July 2009 - 09:24 PM.

[Marmiduke]

Thanks for the encouragement guys (and all the explanations!). I guess mucking round on the computer and worrying about selections isn't going to help me when I run the race. I'll run it as best as I can, the only person I can fail is myself. It's going to be great.
And if nothing else I have a beautiful new uniform that stands testament to the fact that I made it.
Thanks guys!

[Melruns]

Marmiduke, on Jul 15 2009, 09:54 PM, said:

I guess mucking round on the computer and worrying about selections isn't going to help me when I run the race. I'll run it as best as I can, the only person I can fail is myself. It's going to be great.

That's the spirit!  While I wasn't a particularly good runner as a teenager, I played a fair bit of rep sport up to state champs in hockey and softball, and ALWAYS stressed the same way Marmiduke has been prior to anything involving a selection process.  Oh, and carried on stressing just the same as an adult in rugby.  And guess what?  It always worked out fine.

Good luck to all of you involved in rep running over the next few weeks!

(Those dang kids, mutter, mutter....)

[twosheds]

My daughter (12) just ran her district 800m. She won the event last year and wanted to make the final at regionals. She didnt run so well today - no where near her PB- didnt look as relaxed as normal and ended up with the 4th fastest time so didnt qualify. I want to say how proud I am of how she has dealt with the disappointment. She copped it on the chin and got on with it.
Im disappointed for her but in the scheme of things - being able to handle dissapointment well is probably going to be way more valuable quality ti have than being the best runner.
Twosheds

Edited by twosheds, 16 July 2009 - 12:10 PM.

[BennyMid]

twosheds, on Jul 16 2009, 12:09 PM, said:

My daughter (12) just ran her district 800m. She won the event last year and wanted to make the final at regionals. She didnt run so well today - no where near her PB- didnt look as relaxed as normal and ended up with the 4th fastest time so didnt qualify. I want to say how proud I am of how she has dealt with the disappointment. She copped it on the chin and got on with it.
Im disappointed for her but in the scheme of things - being able to handle dissapointment well is probably going to be way more valuable quality ti have than being the best runner.
Twosheds

Well said twosheds

She lives to do battle another day and has been tested in a valuable life lesson and passed with flying colours to boot !!

You should be proud !!

And so should she !!!  

benny

[TrackRunner]

Marmiduke, on Jul 15 2009, 09:08 PM, said:

Will each state send a full team of twelve? Because the top runners in each category would probably qualify through both systems, and you'd end up with some of the same people in each team, wouldn't you?
Gee, I never knew any of this. I'm very disheartened, to be honest. . Only six! And in my category, only six from both the 16 and 17 yrs races, as my category is u/18! And if all the 17 yrs run faster times, none from the 16 yrs!

I will qualify under both systems but i can only choose one and if i choose queensland athletics i cant do the relay or time trial on the monday only the main race on the saturday. yeah and if you are in the younger age group to make nationals it is harder in that first year, but easyer the next. last year i was in 13th on the list but a kid got injured in training and i was the last to make the team i just scraped in 12th spot so got offered a spot with QA. I knew as i was in the younger age group i couldnt do any good at nationals but i still went for the experience and im glad i did, at least this year now im in the older of the combined age groups i know what to expect. I came 25th in the combined age group last year but worked out i was 7th in my own age group so i was pleased with that. Its getting there that matters just to gain experience just like next year you will be much wiser and better placed than this year. So for you to go to nationals you will have to place in at least the top 12 in the combined age group and top ten would be nearly 100% to go, just if you dont make the schools team you then have a day or two to nominate and represent ANSW. But a few years ago when nationals was in Perth i saw some kids that came 15th at QLD states still get to go to nationals because some parents couldnt afford to send their kids or just didnt see the point in going, so the selectors go down the list until all places are filled, Oh and you are suppose to be freshening up and staying positive about states not thinking about nationals My best advice is to just finish as high up the list as you can and there is nothing else you can do than that,

OHHH and i forgot to mention last year at nationals First and Second in my combined age group race were  from the younger age !!!!! so it can be done

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 16 July 2009 - 06:15 PM.

[Marmiduke]

7th in the country, Julian? That's quite a fair result.   This is my first state event, and I'm nowhere near the fastest in my state, so to be honest this event will be just for the experience, this year at least. Maybe next year Nationals might be somewhere on the agenda   . It's still useful for me to know how to qualify though. I wish the race was tomorrow, so I wouldn't have to go through these sometimes agonising three weeks of peaking.

One thing I'd like to mention to anyone involved in this xc thing is that: after Regionals heaps of people, myself included, are sent an invitation to go to the USA on a running camp/competition series kind of event run by Sports Travel Australia. The first time I was sent this I had run really badly at Regionals, and my parents and I figured the scheme was just a bit of a revenue raiser, and that they had sent the invite to everyone. Well, my friend made Regionals for the first time last year, was invited to go to the US like everyone else, and she accepted and so is going this year, and it sounds as though it's going to be a great experience for her (from the information she's been given, which is a little scanty). I asked around at my training group, and no one knows anyone that's gone. So, I wondered if anyone on CR has any experience with this annual trip?

[TrackRunner]

I havn't heard of this event, but given its in USA it would be a couple of thousand dollars at least to be a part of it. We have plenty of races here to practice in. haha

[Marmiduke]

Yep, more than a couple thousand actually.
Found this article today. Worth the read for those who're interested.

http://www.letsrun.c...collegesuck.php

[EnduranceMachine]

Nice Two People In My Race That Beat Me In My Last Races Aren't Entered That Helps My Chances.

[Marvo]

Marmiduke, on Jul 17 2009, 08:47 AM, said:

One thing I'd like to mention to anyone involved in this xc thing is that: after Regionals heaps of people, myself included, are sent an invitation to go to the USA on a running camp/competition series kind of event run by Sports Travel Australia. The first time I was sent this I had run really badly at Regionals, and my parents and I figured the scheme was just a bit of a revenue raiser, and that they had sent the invite to everyone. Well, my friend made Regionals for the first time last year, was invited to go to the US like everyone else, and she accepted and so is going this year, and it sounds as though it's going to be a great experience for her (from the information she's been given, which is a little scanty). I asked around at my training group, and no one knows anyone that's gone. So, I wondered if anyone on CR has any experience with this annual trip?

Hi Marmiduke

I can help you with the information about the Cross Country tours to America run by Sports Travel Australia as I've had a fair bit of involvement with them over the years.  My eldest daughter went on the tour in 2006 when she was 14 and I'm about to head off on the tour in September as one of the Coach/Managers and this will be my 4th tour with the group.

Some background information about the tours might help you.  The tours were started over 25 years ago by a keen athletics coach and administrator from Ballarat in Victoria to give young athletes a chance to travel overseas and experience mixing with and competing against students in the USA. The tours originally started as track & field tours and then a few years ago, they added Cross Country running tours as well. Unfortuately, the gentleman who organised the track & field tours passed away last year and so only the Cross Country tours are continuing. The gentleman organising the XC tours also has a passion for athletics and his daughter recently competed in the Boston Marathon. So the people involved are all "in to" athletics.

The original tours were aimed at the top performing athletes in the States as there were very limited opportunities for them to compete overseas at that time.  Over the years, the tours have expanded into being aimed more at up and coming athletes to provide them with opportunities that might inspire them to continue on in athletics.  While not everyone from All Schools, for instance, will receive an invitation, the idea is to give as many athletes as possible the opportunity to travel on the tour and the invitations are sent via the Schools. Over the years the cost of the tour has been kept as low as possible to make it affordable as the priority for the organisers is to give young athletes a chance to travel and compete and not to make a huge profit. If profit was the motive, then the tours would cost a lot more. Sorry, I'm trying really hard to not make this sound like a "sales pitch".

The tours are a combination of competition, coaching sessions, sightseeing and mixing with the American students. There are four races of which two are "Invitational" races where 20 or so School teams will be competing and these are probably similar to a Region type carnival and then two smaller mid-week races against 3 or 4  School teams as part of the School's normal weekly Cross Country racing season.  The races are all held in Nevada with three races in Las Vegas and another race in a town called Laughlin. The sightseeing takes in Las Vegas, including a Cirque du Soleil show, the Grand Canyon, Disneyland and Universal Studios.

Over the years we have built up a strong association with the teachers who run the School Cross Country events in southern Nevada and they love the Aussies coming over to run in their races. The American students have a great time asking about Australia and the Aussie athletes feel the same about the Americans.  The way the US schools run XC is very different to how we do it, for instance, it's not in Age Groups and so it's based on Varsity Teams (the best 7 runners in the school team) and then Open or Junior Varsity Teams for everyone else in the School XC team.  The spirit the American students have for competing for their School is something we rarely see in our Club based system here or in the Schools. The performance of the School team takes precedence over the individual and so every runner from 1st to last place is cheered on to move up to get a better score for the team.  It can be a culture shock when you first experience it. One other thing is that sport in School is compulsory over there and so all the students must compete in something and so that will cover everything from tennis, football, soccer, cross country, etc in the Fall (Autumn) sports.

As for the people who travel with the tour, I'm a Level 3 Distance/Middle Distance coach from Sydney and like I said at the start, this year will be my 4th XC tour. The other Coach/Manager on the tour is a Level 4 coach from Victoria who has managed one of the age groups for the Victorian High Schools Cross Country team for 9 years as well managing teams at PSG, World School Games, etc.  He also lectures in Human Movement at Ballarat Uni, so he is very experienced. This will be his 3rd XC tour on top of the 9 or 10 track & field tours he went on previously. This year, we are also taking two students from the University of Ballarat School of Human Movement (future PE teachers) to assist. There are 21 athletes ranging in age from 13 to 18 plus 5 parents on this year's tour as well as the 4 Coaches and Managers, so it's not a small group.

Anyway, I hope that helps exlpain what the tours are all about. If you don't go this year, there is nothing stopping you from replying and asking to be included on a future tour.

Marvo

[EnduranceMachine]

Wow Marmiduke

That Sounds Like An Awsome Chance To Do Somyhing Really Different A Great Adventure If I Had The Chance I Would Really Think About Taking It

[HMs]

National's this year is going to be a killer. No one but the people themselves that have ran at Willandra will understand the true meaning of 'pain!' if you think your in for an easy run-think again! this track is not for the faint-hearted. I know this because I have ran the track a number of times before as it used to be only 30 minutes from where I lived, Now unfortunately, it is 2 hours! I hope that Athletics NSW will add me in their selected team as I wont be able to run at State because I missed my bloody school carnival so, fingers crossed!!

[EnduranceMachine]

HMs, on Jul 17 2009, 08:15 PM, said:

National's this year is going to be a killer. No one but the people themselves that have ran at Willandra will understand the true meaning of 'pain!' if you think your in for an easy run-think again! this track is not for the faint-hearted. I know this because I have ran the track a number of times before as it used to be only 30 minutes from where I lived, Now unfortunately, it is 2 hours! I hope that Athletics NSW will add me in their selected team as I wont be able to run at State because I missed my bloody school carnival so, fingers crossed!!

Nationals Is At Nowra Not Willandra

[HMs]

Finny3, on Jul 17 2009, 08:21 PM, said:

Nationals Is At Nowra Not Willandra

I don't know whether I should take that as a joke or just another way of showing your ignorance. Nowra's a big place you know.... 32000 people, large land area..... I don't think they will be holding the event in the main street (Kinghorne) of Nowra! lol Willandra Cross Country course is located just North of Nowra (head towards the hills!). They mentioned Nowra on the Internet as it is the nearest regional center in the area and many people know where Nowra is. So if you want the correct location of Nationals, it is at Willandra (North Nowra).

[TrackRunner]

HMs, on Jul 17 2009, 08:31 PM, said:

I don't know whether I should take that as a joke or just another way of showing your ignorance. Nowra's a big place you know.... 32000 people, large land area..... I don't think they will be holding the event in the main street (Kinghorne) of Nowra! lol Willandra Cross Country course is located just North of Nowra (head towards the hills!). They mentioned Nowra on the Internet as it is the nearest regional center in the area and many people know where Nowra is. So if you want the correct location of Nationals, it is at Willandra (North Nowra).

You are right Haydo, we have already booked accomodation, and had to ring 4 motels as all were booked for this weekend...finny if you make it tomorrow ring and book accomodation straight away as nowra will fill fast. Good Luck tomorrow, makem pay for yur hard work  

here is the link to the Willandra (Nowra) x country course
http://www.nowraathl...enuesindex.html

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 17 July 2009 - 09:06 PM.

[HMs]

LOVE22RUN, on Jul 17 2009, 09:00 PM, said:

You are right Haydo, we have already booked accomodation, and had to ring 4 motels as all were booked for this weekend...finny if you make it tomorrow ring and book accomodation straight away as nowra will fill fast. Good Luck tomorrow, makem pay for yur hard work  

The tourism and money in the local economy from this big event is going to be great! I have looked at the line up, I don't think I have a chance tomorrow so I probably wont go I will have a bet at the winner though, Ruardiah? Macdonald  (pronounced rory) he is an amazing runner!

[TrackRunner]

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I don't think I have a chance tomorrow so I probably wont go I

I sure hope you are kidding, its not about winning, its the fact that you have the balls to turn up and face what comes. Thats what makes us runners so special mate, in a team sport if you have a bad day you can hind behind team mates, but in running everybody sees where you came. now that in itself takes a bit of courage, there will be well over 70 in your race so there can be only one winner, its about seeing how far up the ladder you can climb. If you have done this course before just go out and SMASH yur PB and tell us all about it !!!!! you have a home town advantage haha

[TrackRunner]

Finny3, on Jul 17 2009, 05:13 PM, said:

Nice Two People In My Race That Beat Me In My Last Races Aren't Entered That Helps My Chances.

you better be in bed finny LMAO

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 17 July 2009 - 09:36 PM.

[HMs]

LOVE22RUN, on Jul 17 2009, 09:16 PM, said:

I sure hope you are kidding, its not about winning, its the fact that you have the balls to turn up and face what comes. Thats what makes us runners so special mate, in a team sport if you have a bad day you can hind behind team mates, but in running everybody sees where you came. now that in itself takes a bit of courage, there will be well over 70 in your race so there can be only one winner, its about seeing how far up the ladder you can climb. If you have done this course before just go out and SMASH yur PB and tell us all about it !!!!! you have a home town advantage haha

Jeez thankz mate! it reminds me of an old quote which states, "the day I don't get nervous is the day I don't go" but then reinforces the saying that 'someone has to come last" which could well damn be me. It's a little short for my liking so I probably wont finish well up in the field. I'm a little unsure whether or not I will enter because if I don't I will play AFL instead. I am certainly more passionate about running then Aussie Rules but it is really for the team. "One less player in a team creates a hole for goals to be kicked" I have a duty to fulfill that hole. But thanks for the encouragement very uplifting.

[TrackRunner]

I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE YOU CAN DO 19 MINUTES FOR 5KLM SO THATS AROUND 14 MINUTES FOR 4KLM. YOU WILL NOT COME LAST DUDE !!!!!! NOW GET SOME BLOODY SLEEEP

EDITED AS I FORGOT TO SAY HAHA

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 17 July 2009 - 09:48 PM.

[HMs]

LOVE22RUN, on Jul 17 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE YOU CAN DO 19 MINUTES FOR 5KLM SO THATS AROUND 14 MINUTES FOR 4KLM. YOU WILL NOT COME LAST DUDE !!!!!! NOW GET SOME BLOODY SLEEEP

EDITED AS I FORGOT TO SAY HAHA

LOL LOL LOL! it is a tiny 2.5km run! that is a little to short. My 4km PB is 14mins 4 secs so u were pretty close. I'm not up to running at suicide pace therefore, tomorrow is not a great day to die! (chevz) I talk to you soon, gd bye

[Marmiduke]

Thanks for the information Marvo! Fantastic to hear straight from the proverbial horse's mouth. It's a great oppourtunity, and I can see now that the whole exercise has a different objective than what I thought; it's about promoting the enthusiasm for the sport in everyday kids I guess, not about offering positions solely to the best runners possible. I would love to go but unfortunately it's a bit out of my price range... Great to know that you're going yourself. I often have a look at the (American) Runner's World online high school forums, and you can definitely see how seriously they take their running, and how they compete at such a high standard.  
HMs, is your race today something to do with the Athletics NSW short course championships? I really should be a member. I should have done that Nowra run. Oh well...
Thinking fast thoughts for you Haydo(?)(Is your name Hayden? Or did Julian just make that up? )

[TrackRunner]

Marmiduke, on Jul 18 2009, 09:28 AM, said:

. I would love to go but unfortunately it's a bit out of my price range... (Is your name Hayden? Or did Julian just make that up? )

We could always pass a hat around the coolrunning members and call it the "Sal in the states fund"
HAHA
and im not sure if he is called Haydos, Hayden or Harold  
he is a man of mystery our HM

Im so sick, and still in bed, me and me old mate Lappy (You may know him as Acer Aspire)
So  Sick  Of Being SICK

[Marmiduke]

Oh, poor Julian. Never mind, you'll be on your feet again in a few days, hopefully. Have you got the flu?
By the way, I had absolutely no idea what Acer Aspire was until I googled it. If read your post without that knowledge, it is easy to become very disturbed. For a moment I thought Lappy might be a dog.  
I wonder how our man of mystery has fared in the run today...

[EnduranceMachine]

Dam Will Not Be Going To Nats This Year Got Boxed In Early And Had To Play Catch Up 21:48 Not Sure Of Final Place But Didn't Get A Orange Form.

[TrackRunner]

Finny3, on Jul 18 2009, 03:17 PM, said:

Dam Will Not Be Going To Nats This Year Got Boxed In Early And Had To Play Catch Up 21:48 Not Sure Of Final Place But Didn't Get A Orange Form.

DAMN, Yeah they do go phsyco at the start and its easy to be stuck in the middle of the pack.

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 18 July 2009 - 03:58 PM.

[TrackRunner]

Just looked up results and you came 22nd in the U18 Finny, but you gotta remember that there was 85 in that race so you are in the top 25% in the state. WELL DONE MAN !! and Kyle martin alcaide who is in my U16 age group ran in the U17 6klm event and won it    he must be tryin to get to world cross country a year early ? the same event Kane Grimster won a couple of years back, no other reason somebody would run up and age group, unless he missed the start of his U16 4klm race ? I noticed Kyle's time of 19:30 places him third overall in both age groups so to be 15 and place third in the U18 is freaky

Just found the answer "Australian representative team of up to six girls and six boys will also be selected.
To be eligible for international selection, students must be born in 1993, 1994, 1995 or 1996 provided they turn 14 prior to the international event taking place.  
only VSSSA team members are eligible for selection in the Australian team to compete at the 2010, World Schools Cross Country Championships being held in the Netherlands." so you basicly have to come top 6 in the U18 age group through all schools, good to remember for next year

results are here

http://www.athsvic.o.....l Results.pdf

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 18 July 2009 - 04:23 PM.

[EnduranceMachine]

LOVE22RUN, on Jul 18 2009, 03:43 PM, said:

Oh and Finny if you came top 12 you can still apply to go with VA team ?

Not Sure But The Time Was 12:50 Under 14's Was 10:14

I Am Guessing That I Came About 50th

Blooded Winding Out There To.

[TrackRunner]

Finny3, on Jul 18 2009, 03:52 PM, said:

Not Sure But The Time Was 12:50 Under 14's Was 10:14

I Am Guessing That I Came About 50th

Blooded Winding Out There To.

Read above, you came 22nd, ALOT better than 50 dude  

[EnduranceMachine]

I Just Think I Need A Few More Races Under The Belt. Just Keep Trainning And Racing Hard And Next Year I Will Be There.

[EnduranceMachine]

LOVE22RUN, on Jul 18 2009, 04:17 PM, said:

Read above, you came 22nd, ALOT better than 50 dude  

Add The 17's As Well And I Was 51st

[Marmiduke]

Finny, that's a great result, you haven't been running seriously as long as these other guys, and you're right up there in competition with them. Awesome effort, you're in the top quarter of the state. I know you must still be incredibly disappointed, but you know you're going to make it next year   .
What happened when you say you were boxed in? (Sorry, can't visualise it.)

[TrackRunner]

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 22 July 2009 - 07:20 PM.

[EnduranceMachine]

Marmiduke, on Jul 18 2009, 04:28 PM, said:

Finny, that's a great result, you haven't been running seriously as long as these other guys, and you're right up there in competition with them. Awesome effort, you're in the top quarter of the state. I know you must still be incredibly disappointed, but you know you're going to make it next year   .
What happened when you say you were boxed in? (Sorry, can't visualise it.)

Could Not Pass The Runners In Front Because I Was Blocked And Couldn't Get Around The Course Is Really Hard Can't imagine What Nowra Is Like.

[BennyMid]

Finny3, on Jul 18 2009, 04:41 PM, said:

Could Not Pass The Runners In Front Because I Was Blocked And Couldn't Get Around The Course Is Really Hard Can't imagine What Nowra Is Like.

Hey Finny

Congrats on doing what you could. Your result is certainly not something to be ashamed of. IF you have been reading " the other thread " you would have seen a rather comprehensive run down of my daughters efforts the past couple of years. You have something to build on and simply remember that you came 22 out of - how many thousand boys in your age group in your State ? Simply to get to that point is a massive effort displaying disipline, dedication and commitment.

Something that is so poorly lacking in todays societyBe PROUD
Stand TAll

And come back next year and give em hell.

Then the year after and after etc.

cheers

benny

[TrackRunner]

Marmiduke, on Jul 18 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

I wonder how our man of mystery has fared in the run today...

results are up and his name wasnt on the list, so i guess he didnt go   (unless he has more alias's haha)

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 19 July 2009 - 11:48 AM.

[HMs]

LOVE22RUN, on Jul 19 2009, 11:47 AM, said:

results are up and his name wasnt on the list, so i guess he didnt go   (unless he has more alias's haha)

Hey Julian, “Without mysteries, life would be very dull indeed. What would be left to strive for if everything were known?”
“The possession of knowledge does not kill the sense of wonder and mystery. There is always more mystery.”                            “Strangers are exciting, their mystery never ends."
"Mystery creates wonder and wonder is the basis of man's desire to understand"
"The real mystery of life is not a problem to be solved, it is a reality to be experienced."
Take care, Harold

[Marmiduke]

Harold, your mysteriousness is overwhelming and undeniable.
Do you think you can tell us any details regarding the race- for instance, did you go?
Perhaps you can write it in code to maintain your enigmatic aspirations.
We won't tell anyone...

[TrackRunner]

HMs, on Jul 19 2009, 04:55 PM, said:

“Without mysteries, life would be very dull indeed. What would be left to strive for if everything were known?”
“The possession of knowledge does not kill the sense of wonder and mystery. There is always more mystery.”                            “Strangers are exciting, their mystery never ends."
"Mystery creates wonder and wonder is the basis of man's desire to understand"
"The real mystery of life is not a problem to be solved, it is a reality to be experienced."
Take care, Harold

Only Harold from Neighbors would speak in such a way   HAHA

[RunningKidCJ]

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Only Harold from Neighbors would speak in such a way  HAHA

lol. Actually i dont think he would!


I won my 1500m today! Haha super fast time of 5:43! LOL. I was just running enough to win, so it shows the quality of runners at my school!

[EnduranceMachine]

RunningKidCJ, on Jul 20 2009, 07:10 PM, said:

lol. Actually i dont think he would!


I won my 1500m today! Haha super fast time of 5:43! LOL. I was just running enough to win, so it shows the quality of runners at my school!

Good Job I Hate The 1500m

[RunningKidCJ]

Thanks Finny.

Its not my favourite either!

[TrackRunner]

RunningKidCJ, on Jul 20 2009, 07:10 PM, said:

lol. Actually i dont think he would!


I won my 1500m today! Haha super fast time of 5:43! LOL. I was just running enough to win, so it shows the quality of runners at my school!

Good job man, just remember even though sometimes you may not have much competition it is still ok to flog the race and just go for a PB. The reason being that whenever you get a PB over any distance the next time you try to get near that time it will be easyer and thus you are on the way to the next PB. The time is funny, it almost matches what i did at my first ever attempt at 1500 2 1/2 years ago when i was 12, difference is i was flat out lol, I came stone last and was embarrased lol take a look if you dont believe it

Edited because im stupid and didnt read CJ's blog first, he was saving himself for other races tomorrow, of course, now it makes sense. Thats it, no more advice from me this year haha.

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 20 July 2009 - 09:02 PM.