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[RunningKidCJ]

hey everyone.
Thanks marmiduke!!
And Congrats on your race today !!! My calculator tells me that you did 4:37min/ k's which is great for that distance and for a bush run. Definatly worthy of a Careflight bear  

And no i dont have any CR gear    But i do want to get a hat. Soonish.

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and CJ is irretrievably poached into the intense 'sport' of fishing.

i dont think so! too intense for me!  


Oh yeah! Thanks Craig and well done Finny!

CJ

Edit. Haha finally on the second page! Wooh

Edited by RunningKidCJ, 28 June 2009 - 07:53 PM.

[RunBare]

Finny3, on Jun 28 2009, 07:06 PM, said:

But Victoria Is Doing There Selection All Through The All Schools This Year So I Didn't Go To Eastern Zone

That's a shame.  Didn't realise that.  My daughter just made it through to Melbourne running at Eastern Zone.  We are new to Vic though, just learning how it all works down here.

When/where/what is All Schools?

Edited by RunBare, 28 June 2009 - 07:58 PM.

[EnduranceMachine]

RunBare, on Jun 28 2009, 07:54 PM, said:

That's a shame.  Didn't realise that.  My daughter just made it through to Melbourne running at Eastern Zone.  We are new to Vic though, just learning how it all works down here.

When/where/what is All Schools?

Yeah It Has Only Changed This Yr


Saturday July 18th At Bundurrua

All Schools Is Incorpatrated With Th Athletics Victoria Cross Country Championships There Pick 2 Teams One Is The Av Team And One Is The Vsssa Team.

But It Is Different For The Primary Schools So If Your Daughter Is In Primary School Then She Just Needs To Continue Through The Way She Is.

[Marmiduke]

Yes! A second page!
Finny, I'm a bit confused. Don't the states always choose their teams from All-Schools? I actually don't understand where the little athletics clubs come in. Were you pleased with your Zone second?
I think that XC is much more competitive for boys than girls, at the lower levels at least. The girls who I've run against so far are for predominantly netballers who can jog a little.
Oh, I did my athletics carnival today. 1500m was first up, and I warmed up really well, and my legs actually felt way better. I ran really well, considering everything; qualified for Zone in the 200m and upwards events. So Zone is going to be exhausting.

[EnduranceMachine]

Marmiduke, on Jun 29 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

Yes! A second page!
Finny, I'm a bit confused. Don't the states always choose their teams from All-Schools? I actually don't understand where the little athletics clubs come in. Were you pleased with your Zone second?
I think that XC is much more competitive for boys than girls, at the lower levels at least. The girls who I've run against so far are for predominantly netballers who can jog a little.
Oh, I did my athletics carnival today. 1500m was first up, and I warmed up really well, and my legs actually felt way better. I ran really well, considering everything; qualified for Zone in the 200m and upwards events. So Zone is going to be exhausting.

No Not Athletics

Xc There Is Vsssa Xc Which Is For Government School

Then There Is All Schools Which Is Under Aths Vic Not Vsssa

This Year There Pick The Vsssa Team And The Av Team At The Av Event

No I Was Not Very Happy With My Zone Race But I Seem I Did Ok As I Was Cramping That Morning And The Other Race Was Only 6 Days Before

[Marmiduke]

Do you think you can beat the guy who came first?

[RunningKidCJ]

hey everyone.
just seeing how yous are all going with your training. love2run, marmiduke, finny, eagle??
Not long now til states. Its exciting!!!

howd u go in ur track events julian???

CJ

[Marmiduke]

Well, I've managed to get some good mileage in this week, largely thanks to my big run on Sunday. By Thursday my muscles were still aching really bad, but I feel completely recovered today. Lately I've been going to both squad xc sessions, but I wasn't able to go to either of them this week because the person whom I carpool with was sick, and because on Monday I had my athletics carnival. I was sad.  
Yesterday, though, was a great morning workout. My mum's a swimming coach, and I used to swim these sessions, until I discovered the joys of the treadmills of the gym that is next to the pool. So I do intervals- oh, actually fartleks I suppose. And yesterday I did 3min intervals at hard pace (17kph, few seconds faster than my goal race pace for 4km) then 2 min at 12kph, did four reps. Also did some leg presses for the first time. Do you guys do any running related weights work?
Another sad thing is that today I had to babysit /give a riding lesson to my 8 year old neighbour and her younger sisters, who all have swine flu. It would be so, so bad to get swine flu right now, or anytime, but especially now. My mother's advice was 'just turn away when she coughs'.

If I get swine flu and it interferes with my training/state/health I will be devastated. I might even be dead. If so, I want to be buried in my state uniform, the uniform that I never got to wear because I died before the race was on.

[EnduranceMachine]

This Week Has Been A Good Week I Have Been Really Tired And Had A Few Scarcy Moments Like Twitchs And Tremors At Times But Was Still Able To Do Some Good Trainng.

My Did 3 Main Sessions -

Tuesday - 10 x 60sec (Roughly 300m) With 60sec Rec Jog At 4:30P/Km + Steady Warm Up + Cool Down

Thursday - 10 x 20sec Hard 40Sec Float 40 Sec Hard 80 Easy- Steady. The Hard Section Where Run And 2:57 - 3:20 Pace Floats At About 3:55 - 4:10 And The Easy At 4:20  + Steady Warm Up + Cool Down    

Sat- 11 Mins Easy + 30 Mins Tempo 170 - 180 Bpm (8k)+ 21 Mins Easy

Plus The Mid Week Medium Run Of 17km + Easy Monday + Friday Runs Plus Doubles On A Few Days Of The Week.

[obiwan]

Finny3, on Jun 29 2009, 07:05 PM, said:

No Not Athletics

Xc There Is Vsssa Xc Which Is For Government School

Then There Is All Schools Which Is Under Aths Vic Not Vsssa

This Year There Pick The Vsssa Team And The Av Team At The Av Event

No I Was Not Very Happy With My Zone Race But I Seem I Did Ok As I Was Cramping That Morning And The Other Race Was Only 6 Days Before

This is the usual for Vic secondary schools.

The All-Schools are held at Bundoora and are in age groups U/14, U/16, etc.
Based on the results 2 teams are selected,the VSSSA team (schools) and the AV team (clubs).

VSSSA gets priority on the top 6 athletes and AV gets the next 6 but you can choose to go with either. The VSSSA stay for a longer period, is more structured and you get to run in relays on a different day to actual nationals against other states. You also go sightseeing and stuff.VSSSA costs alot more and is kinda based more on the experience. The AV team is there to race, you just race once in the Nationals individual race and go home.

This pretty much means if you make top 12 at all--schools you'll make nationals UNLESS there are awesome runners that have proof they deserve to be on the team and couldn't compete because of illness or other suitable reasons. top 10 is usually a certainty.

[EnduranceMachine]

obiwan, on Jul 4 2009, 01:36 PM, said:

This is the usual for Vic secondary schools.

The All-Schools are held at Bundoora and are in age groups U/14, U/16, etc.
Based on the results 2 teams are selected,the VSSSA team (schools) and the AV team (clubs).

VSSSA gets priority on the top 6 athletes and AV gets the next 6 but you can choose to go with either. The VSSSA stay for a longer period, is more structured and you get to run in relays on a different day to actual nationals against other states. You also go sightseeing and stuff.VSSSA costs alot more and is kinda based more on the experience. The AV team is there to race, you just race once in the Nationals individual race and go home.

This pretty much means if you make top 12 at all--schools you'll make nationals UNLESS there are awesome runners that have proof they deserve to be on the team and couldn't compete because of illness or other suitable reasons. top 10 is usually a certainty.

Yeah Last Year 10th Place Was 19:59 So I Would Have To Run Better Then My Best If I Want To Make It

[TrackRunner]

Finny3, on Jul 4 2009, 01:55 PM, said:

Yeah Last Year 10th Place Was 19:59 So I Would Have To Run Better Then My Best If I Want To Make It

Hey..isn't that what running is all about "Running better than your best" You can and will do it Finny. As soon as you let self doubt or any kind of doubt creep in you set yourself up for dissapointment,  
I dont mean being unrealistic with targets i just mean you must believe you can do it.
Last years times have nothing to do with this year, its a "Guide" only. Its all about how you do on the day and that has a lot to do with confidence.

Before every race i briefly look around at my opposition and say to myself " you guys are gonna pay for all my hard work in training" sometimes they do pay, sometimes only some of them pay, but it helps me focus and dig every last stride out. Racing is the most important part for us young guys, its why we train, when the gun goes you have to be animal like and driven. That way no matter where you come it sets the stage for next time. Go get em Finny, live the dream  

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 04 July 2009 - 08:10 PM.

[Marmiduke]

Well, you're certainly living yours Love2Run, judging from your weekend records massacre.

[TrackRunner]

Marmiduke, on Jul 7 2009, 03:47 PM, said:

Well, you're certainly living yours Love2Run, judging from your weekend records massacre.

OMG that sounds like i killed someone  

[RunningKidCJ]

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OMG that sounds like i killed someone  

that sounds like your excited that you killed someone  

[TrackRunner]

RunningKidCJ, on Jul 12 2009, 09:06 AM, said:

that sounds like your excited that you killed someone  

That sounds like your excited that im excited about killing someone haha

[HMs]

LOVE22RUN, on Jul 12 2009, 01:44 PM, said:

That sounds like your excited that im excited about killing someone haha

so, therefore, you are both maniacal! lol!

[Marmiduke]

Agree wholeheartedly with HMs. (You can tell they're both from QLD.) What's everyone up to, besides emoticon overkill?

[EnduranceMachine]

Did 60 Min Run This Morning With 3k TT In 10:15 Bit Slow 14.7km Total

Will Do A Real Easy 5k Toinght  

For My Main Workouts This Week I Will Do

Tues - 3-5k TT

Thurs - A Light Speed Session To Freshen Up For Xc On Saturday

[TrackRunner]

Marmiduke, on Jul 12 2009, 02:01 PM, said:

(You can tell they're both from QLD.) What's everyone up to, besides emoticon overkill?

And whats wrong with QLD ? At least we dont have to buy Banana's, we just reach out or bedroom window and pick our own !!!
Anyway did easy 8k thursday and felt crap, hills yesterday and felt crap, did easy 12k today and felt crap.
haha. But besides that im great.

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so, therefore, you are both maniacal

Isnt a maniacal something people used to wear on one eye in olden times lol  
only 5 more training sessions till state x country......YIPEEEEEEE

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 12 July 2009 - 05:05 PM.

[RunningKidCJ]

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(You can tell they're both from QLD.)

  

Ive been doing a lot more speed work lately. Starting to lower my mileage.
Did a PB for 10km on Saturday so I'm pretty happu with that!

What about urself??

[RunningKidCJ]

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Isnt a maniacal something people used to wear on one eye in olden times lol

nope. thats a monocle!!! i looked it up on google! haha

[Marmiduke]

Isnt a maniacal something people used to wear on one eye in olden times lol  
Groan. Maybe you should get one.
only 5 more training sessions till state x country......YIPEEEEEEE
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Why only five? Haven't you got at least 14 days till the 26th?
And good luck Finny! The xc on the weekend isn't your state run, is it?
My taper is going to kick off in a week or so. I'm washing my hands like crazy, trying to avoid getting sick.

[quote name='LOVE22RUN' date='Jul 12 2009, 05:04 PM' post='479220']
And whats wrong with QLD ? At least we dont have to buy Banana's, we just reach out or bedroom window and pick our own !!!
Mmm. Don't have to spend money on meat either, just grab one of the cane toads from the living room. That's dinner covered, I guess.

[RunningKidCJ]

eww

[TrackRunner]

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Why only five? Haven't you got at least 14 days till the 26th?

I meant 5 hard days, all the rest are slow recovery days and tapering for states
Oh and ya, cane toad pie is awsome

[Marmiduke]

Such a lot of nutrition in cane toad pie.

[EnduranceMachine]

i should really start to taper for state this week

[HMs]

Finny3, on Jul 12 2009, 05:47 PM, said:

i should really start to taper for state this week

Hey finny. I couldn't help but notice that your 5km personal best is the exact same as mine!
You must be fast! lol

[Marmiduke]

He is indeed fast.

[RunningKidCJ]

very fast.

marmiduke shouldnt u be at school at 1:40? Or am i missing something?

Edited by RunningKidCJ, 15 July 2009 - 07:23 AM.

[BennyMid]

RunningKidCJ, on Jul 15 2009, 07:22 AM, said:

very fast.

marmiduke shouldnt u be at school at 1:40? Or am i missing something?

NSW School Hols on now if my memory serves me correct

b

[Marmiduke]

Yup. Three weeks of holidays, and I go back to school on the 27th, I think.

Edit: to ask a question
Benny, how has your daughter gone in cross country? Will she be at state?

Edited by Marmiduke, 15 July 2009 - 08:02 AM.

[TrackRunner]

Wish i was still on holidays, instead of sitting on this boring bus going to school.

[BennyMid]

Marmiduke, on Jul 15 2009, 07:58 AM, said:

Yup. Three weeks of holidays, and I go back to school on the 27th, I think.

Edit: to ask a question
Benny, how has your daughter gone in cross country? Will she be at state?

She didn't make it this year but as she said her placing this year was as good as going anyway . This is her first year being in the top 10 therefore on the reserve bench so good on her. EAch year she gets closer and closer and we really do have some great runners in her region and age group

She did win her school 1500 yesterday with a pretty good PB to boot so that is a really good start to the track season. 800 and 400 today. So she will be off to districts with 800 an 1500 at least .

cheers

benny

Edited by BennyMid, 15 July 2009 - 08:29 AM.

[Marmiduke]

Hey Benny
Is she first or second reserve? Great result, but she must be disappointed a little. Frustrating to be so close. Is she more of a track or xc runner?
Also, I'm a little embarassed to ask, but does anyone know how many would go to Nationals in NSW? Is it top eight? It's funny, but I'd always assumed top eight and never asked anyone, but I have a feeling it may be twelve or ten. Just wondering...
When did QLD holidays end?

[BennyMid]

Marmiduke, on Jul 15 2009, 11:01 AM, said:

Hey Benny
Is she first or second reserve? Great result, but she must be disappointed a little. Frustrating to be so close. Is she more of a track or xc runner?

At this stage she is a jill of all trades but mistress of none.

She likes both XC and Track equally

3rd reserve but one pulled out on the regional day  so that  made her 2nd reserve in the end. She was a bit dissaopointed but she was also as happy as the proverbal pig with her result this year.

She cleaned up in the 800 and 400 today as well so she will have a busy districts competion.

Marmiduke, on Jul 15 2009, 11:01 AM, said:

Also, I'm a little embarassed to ask, but does anyone know how many would go to Nationals in NSW? Is it top eight? It's funny, but I'd always assumed top eight and never asked anyone, but I have a feeling it may be twelve or ten. Just wondering...
When did QLD holidays end?

CAn't help you with anything there apart from the holidays  question .

When do Qld Holidays finish ?

NEVER !!!!!!!!!!

everyday in this wonderfull state is a holiday ..( expecially watching the footy )    

cheers

benny

[RunningKidCJ]

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When do Qld Holidays finish ?

NEVER !!!!!!!!!!

Very true. We are gonna smash in Origin tonight!!! GO THE MAROONS.
Haha. But this is our first week back. So holidays finished last week.  

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Wish i was still on holidays, instead of sitting on this boring bus going to school.

Wow julian, how did u post on the bus???   haha

CJ

[Marmiduke]

Clearly Julian has more talents than we first assumed.
And... Origin? Errgh.

Also.
"When do Qld Holidays finish ?

NEVER !!!!!!!!!!

everyday in this wonderfull state is a holiday ."

Benny, no wonder your daughter got into running, I'd do anything to get away from Dad comments like that!

[TrackRunner]

RunningKidCJ, on Jul 15 2009, 04:18 PM, said:

Wow julian, how did u post on the bus???   haha

CJ

yeah at our school we must have wireless usb and laptops, means i get to see more of coolrunning than you haha

edited kause i karnt speel 4 sheeeeeettt !!!!!!! haha

Edited by LOVE22RUN, 15 July 2009 - 06:44 PM.

[TrackRunner]

Marmiduke, on Jul 15 2009, 11:01 AM, said:

Also, I'm a little embarassed to ask, but does anyone know how many would go to Nationals in NSW?

Like most states they send two teams of Six, Top six in each state race go with schools and next 6 get to go with Athletics NSW, or VIC, or QLD etc so twelve in all from each state.

[RunningKidCJ]

haha your a lucky one julian, but atleast my school teaches me how to spell       
I dont know if more of CR is a good thing atm, theres alot of arguing going on

Edited by RunningKidCJ, 15 July 2009 - 06:53 PM.

[Marmiduke]

Thanks, Julian. I don't think I understand, though.
So: is it the first six in All-Schools State who go to nationals representing NSW schools, as opposed to the next six placegetters, who represent Athletics NSW? How can you represent Athletics NSW if you aren't a member? Are the teams selected from the same race (the one I'm going to), or was the Athletics NSW team selected from that Nowra race? Sorry, I'm conufsed... I'm also confused.
But basically you're saying that top twelve go?
I hope school was good. Sincerely.

[Marvo]

Marmiduke, on Jul 15 2009, 06:53 PM, said:

Thanks, Julian. I don't think I understand, though.
So: is it the first six in All-Schools State who go to nationals representing NSW schools, as opposed to the next six placegetters, who represent Athletics NSW? How can you represent Athletics NSW if you aren't a member? Are the teams selected from the same race (the one I'm going to), or was the Athletics NSW team selected from that Nowra race? Sorry, I'm conufsed... I'm also confused.
But basically you're saying that top twelve go?
I hope school was good. Sincerely.

Hi Marmiduke

The way it works is that from the U/14's to U/20's, each State is represented by two teams at the Australian Cross Country Championships.  One team represents the Schools and the other team represents the State Athletics Associations (eg, ANSW).  

The Schools team is selected from the NSW All Schools XC Championships and let's say you are in the U/16 age group, the 6 fastest finishers from the 14 years and 15 years races will make up the 6 member U/16's NSW All Schools XC team. In theory, you could win the 14 years race and be the 7th fastest finisher from the combined age groups and miss out on selection in the Schools team. These athletes will run in the individual race on the Saturday as well as the XC Relays on the Monday of the Championships.

To gain selection in ANSW team to compete at the Australian Cross Country Championships you need to nominate via the ANSW website and compete at the ANSW XC Championships in Nowra, State Road Championships and State Short Course XC.  This means you need to be a member of an ANSW Club or receive dispensation from ANSW to compete as an "Unattached" athlete if you are from, say, a remote country area where there is no club, etc.  ANSW will then make a selection from the nominations based on performances at those events.  The first two finishers in the age group races at the ANSW XC Championships in Nowra are "automatic" selections provided they nominate. The best advice I can give you is to check out the ANSW website and click on the "On-line entry" button and follow the link. The ANSW athletes only compete in the individual XC race on the Saturday at Nationals.

Many athletes will nominate for the ANSW team as a back up in case they miss out on School selection.  If they then make it through in the School team, they have the option of withdrawing their nomination for the ANSW team or pass up on the School team.

I hope this helps you.

Marvo

Edited by Marvo, 15 July 2009 - 07:28 PM.

[TrackRunner]

The above post stopped me from having stress over how to explain it lol, it does sound complicated but its not. Just that if you go with state athletics team you dont get to do the time trial or relays, just the main race, which is what i did last year. This year im going on school team ( unless i trip over and break my ancle at states   ) so will get to do relays yay

[TrackRunner]

here is the link from QLD ath website about the two pathways of selection, its just that schools team have first choice but the athletes can choose to go with either team if they come top 6 at states,

http://www.qldathlet...ionCriteria.pdf

there would be a similar description on ANSW website
cheers

[RunningKidCJ]

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unless i trip over and break my ancle at states

touch wood julian.


PS. quick try and get 4 more post so we can stop scrolling down so far to read the new posts. haha very annoying

CJ

[TrackRunner]

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[TrackRunner]

post 2

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[RunningKidCJ]

haha stop it. Thats cheating in getting more posts.

and btw u have increased ur posts like massively in the last 2 weeks or soo.
All that arguing with some said person

Post 3 (hipocrite i know)

CJ

[TrackRunner]

RunningKidCJ, on Jul 15 2009, 08:13 PM, said:

haha stop it. Thats cheating in getting more posts.

and btw u have increased ur posts like massively in the last 2 weeks or soo.
All that arguing with some said person

Post 3 (hipocrite i know)

CJ

it was all worth it, i have my very own Coolrunning Stalker now lol