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[MissWee]

As many of you can imagine, online shopping is far too convenient to pass up.

I know there are plenty of online sites to choose but i prefer to shop from one that someone has had a good experience with. Can anyone recommend a reliable online sports store where I can buy some asics kayano 15's. Within Australia would be great.

Thanks!

[SirPlod]

Hi MissWee

I bought online from A-Mart Allsports a few weeks ago and couldn’t fault them.

I spotted a pair of Nike Alvord Trail shoes in an A-Mart All Star shop, but they didn’t have my size and couldn’t get it (sales person couldn’t really be bothered). I started looking online and I found them on their online shop – and for $30 less than the ones in the actual shop!

The process was something like

Ordered at 10am Thursday
Received text message confirming dispatch at 11am Thursday
Received shoes at 1pm Friday

I was really pleasantly surprised.

[RunnerMick]

Since the AUD is so good against the pound right now *moderated* good prices, good delivery time and you can set everything to display AU dollars - Best of all, free delivery if you spend over $100...

Had a quick look - Women's Kayano 15s are $165.60 (free delivery) at the moment...

You just have to be careful when checking out to select "free delivery" rather than the default "priority dispatch" - they seem to dispatch quickly enough without having to pay for priority.

Edited by clairie, 01 October 2009 - 09:05 PM.

[MissWee]

Thanks for all the feedback.

I was thinking of getting them from Shoe Logic's online sports store http://www.shoelogic...php?subCateID=1

I had a quick look at the wiggle site and that looks really good!! How can they sell them for so much cheaper?? Have you ever bought anything from them?

[Ponyface]

Wiggle provides a terrific service and the free shipping is great. But I would be surprised if they will sell you any Asics items at all. Most US-based online stores will not take international orders for Asics.

[MissWee]

I just checked out amart, it's a little more expensive than the other online stores. Thanks for the advice though, i'll keep them in mind for their sale items

[SirPlod]

Yeah, sorry Miss Wee, I just noticed that!!!

Plegh, Asics Kayano 15 - $250 for mens, $240 for womens! Online!?! That's the most expensive I've ever seen them.

Ok, so their service is good, but I’d only suggest them if you’re buying something on special.

[bugs]

An online shop in the making is Sport Sense. They dont have a lot up online at the moment but I believe its coming. I have bought some tennis items from them and sunnies. If you dont see what you want give them a call.
www.sportsense.com.au

[moby]

Stringers Sports in Melbourne is good for online sales of ASICS. Currently have some women’s Kayano 15 for $189.

http://www.stringersports.com.au/www/268/1...s--1039782.html


Just a heads up for those who haven’t been through this before, PLEASE DO NOT post names of overseas sites where you have purchased shoes (and ASICS in particular) from. The Australian reps from shoe companies have previously used Coolrunning to identify such sites and ensure they stop shipping shoes from overseas to here.

[BostonCalling]

moby, on Oct 1 2009, 02:21 PM, said:

Just a heads up for those who haven’t been through this before, PLEASE DO NOT post names of overseas sites where you have purchased shoes (and ASICS in particular) from. The Australian reps from shoe companies have previously used Coolrunning to identify such sites and ensure they stop shipping shoes from overseas to here.

Which begs the question, Why don't ASICS have concept stores in Australia? I can never find ASICS apparel anywhere. Shoes not a problem, but trying to find running apparel in my size is a nightmare.

Edited by BostonCalling, 01 October 2009 - 03:29 PM.

[moby]

BostonCalling, on Oct 1 2009, 03:28 PM, said:

Which begs the question, Why don't ASICS have concept stores in Australia? I can never find ASICS apparel anywhere. Shoes not a problem, but trying to find running apparel in my size is a nightmare.

Not to mention the fact that for about 5 years the models of ASICS shoes I have worn are not available in Australia so I have to get them from overseas.

[RunningKidCJ]

olympus sports has my pick.
Bought from there heaps and always great sevice and fast deliveries.

http://www.olympussports.com.au/

edited to add, they also have free delivery!

Edited by RunningKidCJ, 01 October 2009 - 08:12 PM.

[EnduranceMachine]

Online Stores Are Is Easily The Best Shops. There Race Shoes Are Just The Greatest
Prices Are Great. Postasge A Bit Much But The Cheaps Shoes Makes Up For It

Edited by Finny3, 02 October 2009 - 10:21 AM.

[walshy2]

Finny3, on Oct 1 2009, 08:15 PM, said:

*moderated* Is Easily The Best Shop. There Race Shoes Are Just The Greatest
Prices Are Great. Postasge A Bit Much But The Cheaps Shoes Makes Up For It

They no longer are allowed to post Asics to Aus though, which is a bummer

[Bellthorpe]

For goodness' sake people, which part of 'please do not post the names over overseas suppliers' can you not understand?

Moderators, please assist here.

[moby]

BostonCalling, on Oct 1 2009, 03:28 PM, said:

Which begs the question, Why don't ASICS have concept stores in Australia? I can never find ASICS apparel anywhere. Shoes not a problem, but trying to find running apparel in my size is a nightmare.

A follow up to this Boston. Rebel Sport stock ASICS running apparel (as does Stringers in Clayton who sell online). There should also be an ASICS stand at the Melb Marathon expo.

[EnduranceMachine]

Bellthorpe, on Oct 1 2009, 08:29 PM, said:

For goodness' sake people, which part of 'please do not post the names over overseas suppliers' can you not understand?

Moderators, please assist here.

Sorry Didn't Pick That Up.

[ChickenRun]

RunningKidCJ, on Oct 1 2009, 08:11 PM, said:

olympus sports has my pick.
Bought from there heaps and always great sevice and fast deliveries.

http://www.olympussports.com.au/

edited to add, they also have free delivery!

+1

They've been very very good to me

[walshy2]

Bellthorpe, on Oct 1 2009, 08:29 PM, said:

For goodness' sake people, which part of 'please do not post the names over overseas suppliers' can you not understand?

Moderators, please assist here.

This is not a question out of any desire to be argumentative, but I don't understand what all this fuss is about not mentioning names

I can go online and look up reviews on all sorts of things eg Cars, Camera's, whitegoods, TV's, Holiday destinations etc etc, so why shouldn't people be able to express an opinion regarding their view on Online Sports Stores?
Choice magazine are forever assessing, rating and publishing their findings on Products and services and everyone is entitled to an opinion...as they say just like A**e Holes, everyones got one

So why the fuss, or is a new thread required?

[Bellthorpe]

This is so tiresome.

The moderators have spelled out, time and again, in exquisite detail, the reason for this policy.

Perhaps you could read what they wrote?

On the other hand, this is a bit like the hostess telling you to turn off your digital camera before you land. You might believe that there is no technical reason to do so, but it makes no difference. She represents the airline, and her instruction to you has the effect of law.

So. Overseas running supplier websites are not to be named here, and that's it. Capiche?

[undercover brother]

walshy2, on Oct 1 2009, 08:20 PM, said:

They no longer are allowed to post Asics to Aus though, which is a bummer

walshy2, on Oct 2 2009, 08:06 PM, said:

This is not a question out of any desire to be argumentative, but I don't understand what all this fuss is about not mentioning names

you've answered your own question.
before you asked it.
people say i bought xyz online from somewhere OS.
the importers of xyz to australia see it and stop those OS companies shipping it here.

Edited by undercover brother, 02 October 2009 - 08:30 PM.

[walshy2]

Sorry Bellthorpe that doesn't cut the mustard

They used to tell women and black people they were not allowed to vote too! People used to think that was quite ok. Thankfully times change

If something ïsn't right it needs to be fixed not merely accepted as "thats it Capiche""

By the way I have just reviewed the Coolrunning Conditions of use and can't see where it says that mentioning Overseas Online Merchants is not allowed?


http://www.coolrunning.com.au/runningguide...nditions_of_Use

Edited by walshy2, 02 October 2009 - 09:06 PM.

[walshy2]

undercover brother, on Oct 2 2009, 08:30 PM, said:

you've answered your own question.
before you asked it.
people say i bought xyz online from somewhere OS.
the importers of xyz to australia see it and stop those OS companies shipping it here.

Thanks UCB, at least you explained the reason. I still think it's wrong and needs to change

So why can I still import Brooks Online from the US?

What is it about Asics that has Aus importers up in arms? Is it just due to the huges volumes in Asics and we could expect others to follow?

Edited by walshy2, 02 October 2009 - 08:45 PM.

[undercover brother]

walshy2, on Oct 2 2009, 08:44 PM, said:

So why can I still import Brooks Online from the US?

well...maybe not any more

Edited by undercover brother, 02 October 2009 - 08:48 PM.

[walshy2]

undercover brother, on Oct 2 2009, 08:46 PM, said:

well...maybe not any more

I'm quite sure its not a well kept secret.

Edited by walshy2, 02 October 2009 - 08:58 PM.

[Bellthorpe]

walshy2, on Oct 2 2009, 08:44 PM, said:

Thanks UCB, at least you explained the reason. I still think it's wrong and needs to change

Fine. Take it up with ASICS et al.

Meanwhile, you're trying to ensure that CR allows posts that will worsen the situation and disadvantage Australian shoppers.

Well that's well thought out, isn't it?

walshy2, on Oct 2 2009, 08:30 PM, said:

By the way I have just reviewed the Coolrunning Conditions of use and can't see where it says that mentioning Overseas Online Merchants is not allowed?

Sigh.

Take 2.

The moderators have spelled out, time and again, in exquisite detail, the reason for this policy.


Perhaps you could read what they wrote?

[walshy2]

Bellthorpe, on Oct 2 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

The moderators have spelled out, time and again, in exquisite detail, the reason for this policy.


Perhaps you could read what they wrote?

Thanks Bellthorpe, are you able to help me locate what they wrote? I have no idea where to find it

Do you think your responses are all that helpful if you simply refer to policy that you know, that others may not?

I respect the moderators, they have been around here longer than me and should be commended for their contribution.

The ones I know would not be expecting that posters would have physic powers: edited to delete the I'm numb reference

you only know what you know......

Why not be a little helpful, rather than try to denigrate ?

Edited by walshy2, 04 October 2009 - 07:56 PM.

[superflake]

For anyone who doesn't know about how the overseas sites work sometimes I will explain.

I mention here that 'jack dot com' sells shoes for $50 USD and ships to Australia for $5 postage.

The australian shoe rep for example spots that 'jack dot com' is doing $50 USD shoes and ships to Australia which would hurt the Australian stores selling them for $140 AUD.

Said shoe rep emails USD HQ and they go the heavy on 'jack dot com' and tell them to stop selling cheap shoes to Australia or risk losing their 'shoe' distribution rights.

When you go to buy shoes next time from 'jack dot com' you find out they won't ship to australia. Has happened to people on Cool Running. Hence the secret society of naming sites.

So if you want to know a name of a site that does ship a particular shoe here. start a thread like this one, or go through all the shoes and socks threads in the forum and PM(email) someone that has bough before.

I have found and Bellthorpe will attest that going on ebay and searching for what you want is best as a lot of the products are power sellers or local OS stores selling their own stock online and will ship to Tonga in a Tsunami(no offence intended) if you pay them.

Cheers.

[walshy2]

Thanks Superflake.

[moby]

walshy2, on Oct 2 2009, 08:06 PM, said:

This is not a question out of any desire to be argumentative, but I don't understand what all this fuss is about not mentioning names

I can go online and look up reviews on all sorts of things eg Cars, Camera's, whitegoods, TV's, Holiday destinations etc etc, so why shouldn't people be able to express an opinion regarding their view on Online Sports Stores?
Choice magazine are forever assessing, rating and publishing their findings on Products and services and everyone is entitled to an opinion...as they say just like A**e Holes, everyones got one

So why the fuss, or is a new thread required?

Hi walshy2

It's not really a problem with people expressing opinions on online sellers, but unfortunately a couple of years ago people on this forum mentioned that they had been buying ASICS shoes online from certain overseas retailers. A local ASICS rep read the comments, contacted ASICS in the US who threatened to withdraw their account from those retailers if they continued to sell to non-US buyers. The exact same thing happened with Brooks as well and those online stores no longer sell those brands overseas.

Hence we strongly discourage users of this forum from naming any overseas retailers through which they manage to purchase running gear as they won't be able to continue doing so for very long once the local reps find out and as a result we lose out. Just keep it to yourself, or at least out of the forum.

cheers

[walshy2]

Thanks Moby I understand

Its quite a shame though.

If the local distributors weren't gouging us as much as they do they probably wouldn't have much to worry about, except good competition> The prices we pay compared to other countries is absurd

Oh well at least we still have Ebay, I can't see anyone shutting that down any time soon

[Johnso]

walshy2, on Oct 3 2009, 06:58 PM, said:

Thanks Moby I understand

Its quite a shame though.

If the local distributors weren't gouging us as much as they do they probably wouldn't have much to worry about, except good competition> The prices we pay compared to other countries is absurd

Oh well at least we still have Ebay, I can't see anyone shutting that down any time soon

Very rarely do I find I am agreeing with Bellthorpe but in the case of this thread, I share his exasperation. Please do not post the website addresses here walshy2. I have no problem with your desire for free speech but this issue is not about that (much less Rosie Parkes). Keep your websites to yourself and we all win!

PS. The explanations you were looking for are listed previously in this very thread.

Edited by Johnso, 04 October 2009 - 03:06 PM.

[Bellthorpe]

Part of my exasperation came from walshy2's disingenuous attempt at being seen as not understanding the issue.

As you say, it was explained earlier in this very thread.

He has previously played the game by sending PMs with suggested suppliers in this thread, in which the issue was discussed and supplier names moderated out. Also this thread.

This post indicates that he's been aware of the issue for quite some time.

Edited by Bellthorpe, 04 October 2009 - 03:44 PM.

[walshy2]

Johnso, on Oct 4 2009, 03:05 PM, said:

Please do not post the website addresses here walshy2. I have no problem with your desire for free speech but this issue is not about that (much less Rosie Parkes). Keep your websites to yourself and we all win!

Johnso,

If you actually took the time to read the thread you will see that at no stage have I mentioned any stores, others have so get your facts right. And I have no intention of doing so!
May I add that it is pretty naive to believe that these multinational companies don't realise their products are being shipped offshore by overseas merchants or that Aus merchants don't already know this and they need Coolrunning to point it out to them.
I don't resile from my view that if the local mobs were not price gouging us they would have nothing to fear from good competition

[redbackrun]

walshy2, on Oct 3 2009, 06:58 PM, said:

Thanks Moby I understand

Its quite a shame though.

If the local distributors weren't gouging us as much as they do they probably wouldn't have much to worry about, except good competition> The prices we pay compared to other countries is absurd

Oh well at least we still have Ebay, I can't see anyone shutting that down any time soon

you shouldn't of mentioned ebay. it will be closed any moment now.

[walshy2]

Bellthorpe, on Oct 4 2009, 03:27 PM, said:

Part of my exasperation came from walshy2's disingenuous attempt at being seen as not understanding the issue.

As you say, it was explained earlier in this very thread.

He has previously played the game by sending PMs with suggested suppliers in this thread, in which the issue was discussed and supplier names moderated out.

Read the thread and you will see I never mentioned any overseas sites, others did.

My exasperation comes from you prattling on about your exasperation that people mentioned sites, but rather than explain to them why that is such a no no, you just trot out that it's been explained before in "exquisite detail". (perhaps part of your apparent ongoing policy to post as many unhelpful posts using as few words as possible)

So now I really cannot understand why you couldn't have taken the time to explain the reason to those who posted the site names because clearly they didn't know why they should not. You obviously have plenty of time on your hands if you can now find the time to trawl back through previous threads seeing if I knew or not. I was not the one who posted the names of oversea sites and so clearly not the one in need of any help.

All your investigative work shows is people asked me to PM them store names and I did when asked. I also indicated I didn't think I was allowed to post store names. Doesn't mean I knew why or agreed with reason

Perhaps with so much time on your hands you could also have replied to the PM i sent you on Friday night rather than keep bringing it up on here

I fully understand the issue. My point is I don't think it's right

Not everyone on this site has been around here long enough to know, so they mentioned store names quite innocently and rather than have the reason explained to them they are made to look silly for not knowing.

My frustration remains that people should be entitled to review and recommend just like they can do for any other consumables.

Do you really think that the only way these large companies and Aussie importers would know overseas sites are shipping products to Aus is through Coolrunning?, yeah right! and the tooth fairy is real as well.

Edited by walshy2, 05 October 2009 - 10:21 AM.

[Johnso]

walshy2, on Oct 4 2009, 03:32 PM, said:

Johnso,

If you actually took the time to read the thread you will see that at no stage have I mentioned any stores, others have so get your facts right. And I have no intention of doing so!
May I add that it is pretty naive to believe that these multinational companies don't realise their products are being shipped offshore by overseas merchants or that Aus merchants don't already know this and they need Coolrunning to point it out to them.
I don't resile from my view that if the local mobs were not price gouging us they would have nothing to fear from good competition

Actually, at no point did I suggest you had mentioned an online store - so how are my facts wrong? Took the time to read the thread?? Firstly, I did and secondly if you had yourself, you would see all the explanations you were looking for.

Naive or not, the fact is that certain brands are now no longer being shipped to Australia due to overseas websites being mentioned on CoolRunning. I just don't want to see that happen to MY brand!

When I first came across websites being moderated out, I felt the same way as you until I understood that it was really for our own benefit so I can live with it.

[walshy2]

By typing

"Please do not post the website addresses here walshy2. Keep your websites to yourself and we all win! "
may give the impression that I have posted overseas sites or intend to. Johnso, I apologise after re-reading your post I can see that you didn't actually accuse me, so I am sorry for that

Lets be clear, I have not (to the best of my recent memory, although I am sure Bellthorpe will trawl back through posts over the last couple of years and let me know if I am mistaken), nor do I intend to post overseas sites.

Edited by walshy2, 04 October 2009 - 07:53 PM.

[Jogger]

Sorry only just seen this thread.

I agree with Bellthorpe - I will find some of the relevant explanations and put the definitive version of why we are not keen on posting urls of overseas online store websites but at the same time want to encourage your use of them.

That way its easy to post the link for people to read why. If anyone has a good way of sharing good urls with coolrunners (but not shoes companies) then we are open to suggestions.

[walshy2]

Thanks Jogger K, I think this will help, but newbies will still need to know where to locate this before they ask the questions and start getting replies

I don't think it's unreasonable that new comers to Coolrunning would ask about good deals online from Aus or Overseas merchants, without understanding why this is an issue.

Seems that some Coolrunners expect that new posters should just know?

Edited by walshy2, 04 October 2009 - 07:52 PM.

[copa2251]

Two points:
1. All forums, running or otherwise, seem to attract people who love to put down others with comments like "why don't you search before posting" or in this case "why don't you read the rules before posting".
This attitude is extremely annoying to newbies and gives the impression that if you haven't been on the forum for years you should keep out!!!
2. I can understand why the policy is to avoid mentioning these OS sites, BUT why doesn't a large group of Australian runners like Coolrunners use their buying power to put pressure on the rip off prices we pay rather than sucking up to the big brands by suppressing free-trade?

As it stands, we'll always be paying higher prices.
It's the same with motorbike gear, a leather jacket will sell for $200 in the US but $700 here! Why do we put up with it?

[Jogger]

Quote

why doesn't a large group of Australian runners like Coolrunners use their buying power to put pressure on the rip off prices we pay rather than sucking up to the big brands by suppressing free-trade?

Australian market is the size of a gnat's arse in comparison to Europe and USA.
CoolRunners make up a small % of even Australian runners.
Running shoes are not even made for runners, they are made for the health & lifestyle crowd who it appears are less sensitive to price.
Upshot is we have piss all influence.

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Why do we put up with it?

We try not to put up with it hence buying from overseas. and then being thwarted by dickhead shoe companies.

But posting their names on CR might see them cutting off the supply, so why stop what is a small import/benefit to nil ?

[technicallyfit]

My my what has this world become... Anyone go to the Festival of Dangerous Ideas this weekend? How much is enough? Is there are secret society amongst australian distributors to screw every dollar they can to make life hard for every australian runner!!
Has the world of capitalism gone mad?

As MLK said 'I have a dream... where every shoe is created equal'

Too many questions....

copa2251, on Oct 4 2009, 09:52 PM, said:

Two points:
1. All forums, running or otherwise, seem to attract people who love to put down others with comments like "why don't you search before posting" or in this case "why don't you read the rules before posting".
This attitude is extremely annoying to newbies and gives the impression that if you haven't been on the forum for years you should keep out!!!
2. I can understand why the policy is to avoid mentioning these OS sites, BUT why doesn't a large group of Australian runners like Coolrunners use their buying power to put pressure on the rip off prices we pay rather than sucking up to the big brands by suppressing free-trade?

As it stands, we'll always be paying higher prices.
It's the same with motorbike gear, a leather jacket will sell for $200 in the US but $700 here! Why do we put up with it?

[Bellthorpe]

The world of capitalism is working as intended. Especially with the Internet proving to be the great leveller.

It's not Australian distributors who are the impediment. It's the shoe companies.

The shoe companies, Australian distributors, and retailers owe it to their shareholders to get the best prices they can for their products. That's the way the system works.

Australian consumers owe it to themselves to pay the least amount of money they can for their products. That's the way the system works.

To do that, come consumers look for alternative channels. Some manufacturers seek to shut down those channels. It's a game. The smart players win.

Here on CoolRunning, we seek not to spoil the game, so as not to disadvantage CR members.

[undercover brother]

copa2251, on Oct 4 2009, 09:52 PM, said:

All forums, running or otherwise, seem to attract people who love to put down others with comments like "why don't you search before posting" or in this case "why don't you read the rules before posting".
This attitude is extremely annoying to newbies and gives the impression that if you haven't been on the forum for years you should keep out!!!

good question.
why don't you read the rules before posting?

haven't joined in a while but is there a way of putting them up somewhere so people creating a new account have to tick a box and at least pretend they have read them?

Edited by undercover brother, 05 October 2009 - 01:56 PM.

[rodthehornet]

Walshy,

Just so you understand, it is not necessarily the AUS retailer gouging. They are making their profit, but not what you think it might be.

Using ASICS as an example. They have different distribution regions and we sit in the Asia/Pacific region. ASICS want to control all of their product that comes into this region. I was quoted the figures by someone fairly close to the top of the ASICS tree and they might sell a retail $250AUS shoe to the AUS retailer for around $140-150AUS (rough figures only - got them 12 months ago)

I am sure and certain that same shoe is not supplied in the US region for the same comparative price, otherwise we wouldnt be able to hunt down the internet bargains. ASICS are selling that same shoe to the US retailer at a much lower price because I know I can get my shoes OS delivered for cheaper than the AUS retailer can even buy them.

You have to ask who is doing the gouging?????

I agree with BT. Just play your cards close to your chest. I share with friends where I get stuff from (have shared with you), but I wont pass onto people I dont know and certainly wont post for everyone to know. I have had CR's PM me with only the minimum posts asking for sites, and unfortunately if I dont know them, I wont pass on sites. I would be peeved if I had passed on a site to someone and then they posted same or if someone was fishing for information from the larger companies.

Rod

[walshy2]

Bellthorpe

I have sent you a PM of apology

I have re-read this whole thread and can now see where I went wrong
I failed to see/read the 2nd part of Moby's post on 1 Oct at 2:21 (the same bit Finney 3 appears to have also missed) and so I formed the view (incorrectly as it turns out) that you were having a go at people for posting overseas sites who may not have known any better.

I can now see you posted "For goodness' sake people, which part of 'please do not post the names over overseas suppliers' can you not understand?" after Moby had already tried to flag with them not to do it.

I missed this completely which then drove some of my further posts as I couldnt understand why you would be so rude to those posters

Anyway, I am clearly in the wrong on that point and so it is only right I apologise to you for that
Sorry


Walshy

[Bellthorpe]

No probs, I'm sure we're all on the same page now.

[redbackrun]

Bellthorpe, on Oct 5 2009, 05:07 PM, said:

No probs, I'm sure we're all on the same page now.

& wearing the same brand shoes.

[Didge]

redbackrun, on Oct 5 2009, 10:40 PM, said:

& wearing the same brand shoes.

...bought from xxxx.com