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[kakadu]

Good day,
how does aqua jogging compare to jogging on land regarding heart rate ? I do heart rate training on land 130 - 148 but I can't run at the moment due to plantar fasciitis and I was wondering to train effective in water do I need to get may heart rate up to the same level to have an effective training which I find very hard as the highest I get it up is 100.
How can one effective train in water without loosing fitness?
Kakadu

[glenda]

You won't be able to get your heart rate as high, nonetheless it is effective as you can do speed work every session in the water. Try also without a support belt (if you use one), it is a lot harder and a great core workout.

[twosheds]

I have read that the compression of the water increases stroke volume- hence total cardiac output is the same at the lower heartrate. Can anyone verify this. It makes sense- based on percieved effort- but would like to hear other views.
twosheds

[chilliman]

other threads here, here, here, and here that might be of use.

[Solace]

Thanks for the links Chilliman.

Last week I was told no running for 12 weeks due to a prolapsed disc. After a week of moping and sulking generally I've dusted off the big blue belt, downloaded the Pfitzinger program, ordered a waterproof ipod case and am keen to get back in the pool and get running again.

I WILL run 6 foot next year if it bloody kills me!!

[Phoenix]

I have used water running during injury lapses for about 4 years, and have found it's better than doing nothing, but doesn't exactly set my heart rate on fire.

The best non-running cross training i've found is doing hill repeats on a bicycle. You'll know you're alive.

[loubee]

I deep water run every monday and most Fridays. Fridays is a class so I work harder but mondays is all about recovery and keeping the legs turning over. When injury rules out any running I combine RPM and DWR to maintain fitness and running form and so far I have always been able to run at the same volume post injury as I was pre injury.

Solace see if you can get someone else in with you, it really helps to ease the boredom.

[Solace]

loubee, on Nov 25 2009, 03:32 PM, said:

I deep water run every monday and most Fridays. Fridays is a class so I work harder but mondays is all about recovery and keeping the legs turning over. When injury rules out any running I combine RPM and DWR to maintain fitness and running form and so far I have always been able to run at the same volume post injury as I was pre injury.

Solace see if you can get someone else in with you, it really helps to ease the boredom.

What have been the durations of your injuries? I'm looking at 12 weeks off, on top of the 4 weeks I was already off before the diagnosis. Can I really expect to be able to slot back into it?? Gee I wish it could be true.

[glenda]

Agree with the hill reps on bike...I am going to continue with them even as I get back into running as I can't run any hills with the achilles problem. 3 laps around our local mt cootha certainly gets the heart and legs working.

[loubee]

Solace, on Nov 25 2009, 12:36 PM, said:

What have been the durations of your injuries? I'm looking at 12 weeks off, on top of the 4 weeks I was already off before the diagnosis. Can I really expect to be able to slot back into it?? Gee I wish it could be true.

Solace my injuries have only been two or three week lay offs but my PT who is an excellent runner had an achillies injury that had her out for a few months, DWRing including intervals etc one land run only and pulled off a PB for the Perth C2S. Are you able to ride as well? I'm guessing no with a prolapsed disc but would be good if you could but not neccessary.

You can do it but you will need to work really hard in the water. I'm sure you have already done/considered this but I would look at doing as much strengthening out of the pool with weights. My PT has me doing all my upper body single leg on the bosu ball, it's hard but my weak glutes are loving it.

[kakadu]

Hi everyone,
thank you very much for the excellent replies and tips , I am convinced now and downloaded the pfitzinger, one question remains but, does water running cause any further strain or injury to the plantar fascia and does it make plantar fasciitis worse, and would cycling be more recommended ?
Thanks again,
Kakadu