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#1 caleb

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 02:46 PM

Right then.
Who is up for the black stump?
I am looking forward to this one after a shoddy time last year.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 03:13 PM

Not going away for New Years, so I will be there with B2orB1.

Will run the PP version tonight for training.

At least there is no rego or qualifier for this run...

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 03:45 PM

yes...lets keep this thread clean..
no mentioning 'that 45km run' please...

And if you are using it to qualify for something i woudnt mention it on this thread fellow forum members...there will be some disgruntled members who didnt get in to 'the race that shall not be named'...accidents can easily happen beyond the black stump..a serious fall when heading down to the water would be a shame..and who is to say if the committee of 'the race that shall not be named' would believe a 'but i was pushed / poisoned / had my camel back bladder slashed' excuse for not qualifying.
So..mums the word..
THIS IS A BLACK STUMP THREAD

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 03:47 PM

I was just reading about it for the first time.  Ferry rides, icy poles from strangers, stopping at the local shops to buy drinks on the way.  Sounds like no event I've ever been in before.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 04:07 PM

I will be out of town this year but last 2 years I have savoured destructive cramps 5km from the end where the trail hits the road.  Reminds me a bit of the race-that-must-not-be-named.

I think my unopened can of Coke is where is I left it pre-race and forgot about it. Base of first sign post far side of ferry.

Edited by frankie17, 02 December 2009 - 04:08 PM.


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Posted 02 December 2009 - 04:16 PM

View Postcaleb, on Dec 2 2009, 03:46 PM, said:

Right then.
Who is up for the black stump?
I am looking forward to this one after a shoddy time last year.

Last time I saw you on this course it was indeed shoddy
You went out for a supposed cruisy target of 3:45 and didn't get within 30 minutes of it :good:

See you Jan 1st

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 04:45 PM

If anyone have a drink container, I am happy to pick up on 31st Dec and do a water drop at the top of the Climb.
Will have a case of can cokes for Gold Coin Donation.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 05:08 PM

Its a pity i wont be in country for this event. This is a great way to start the year and a wonderful race with great sportsmanship along the way with drinks being offered to wary runners.

Have fun out there.

Last year i put an esky at the bottom of the steps and on the way back was able to fuel up and rehydrate.  It was great to have it avaiable on the hot day.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 05:24 PM

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I was just reading about it for the first time. Ferry rides, icy poles from strangers, stopping at the local shops to buy drinks on the way. Sounds like no event I've ever been in before.

Rico - that is JUST the resaon why its so great.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 06:25 PM

View PostRico, on Dec 2 2009, 04:47 PM, said:

I was just reading about it for the first time.  Ferry rides, icy poles from strangers, stopping at the local shops to buy drinks on the way.  Sounds like no event I've ever been in before.
You've obviously met Ourimbah then ...

Great run, great 6ft training, I hope to be there.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 06:50 PM

Cant wait!!  Looking forward to the early wake up on New Years Day.  Best way to start the year I can think of.

Hope to meet a few faces out there in the morning.




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Edited by runhard, 02 December 2009 - 07:10 PM.


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Posted 06 December 2009 - 07:44 PM

Count me in.

I am looking foward to a few weeks rest after C2K and then Black Stump can be my first run back.

It can be the kick start to a new year which will be great. 09 was filled with many lows and many highs and it will be interesting to see what 2010 will bring.

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Posted 06 December 2009 - 07:49 PM

I'll be there for my first black stump, and I'm very much looking forward to it. :D

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 07:46 PM

Hi - this will be my first year doing BTBS too. I'm really looking forward to it. Don't suppose anyone in here has done the 25km version of the Deep Space Mountain Marathon (Namadgi National Park, ACT) and could tell me how the black stump compares??

Also - does anyone know who to contact to let know I'll be doing the run? I know there's no registration, but I read something about letting the organisers know so that there'll be enough photocopies of the map...

Cheers :D

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 08:12 PM

Hi,
i am sure the organisers will have enough maps. also 100+ do this so you have very little chance of getting lost...unless you are leading!
it is tough. if you can do sub 3 you will be one of the very fastest. sub 330 is tickety boo and sub 4 nothing to be ashamed of.

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 08:28 PM

I hope to do this one also.  Still not sure which option to do though

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 09:10 PM

Clearly not running this one but maybe I can come down and be of some use... well as useful as a mostly non mobile person can be!

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 09:23 PM

View PostStellaBella, on Dec 13 2009, 10:10 PM, said:

maybe I can come down and be of some use... well as useful as a mostly non mobile person can be!
Hey Stella, get brewer to bring a keg of home brew down; maybe you could mind it.  I recommend minding it on the inside  :D

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 09:46 PM

View PostCarmen, on Dec 13 2009, 10:23 PM, said:

Hey Stella, get brewer to bring a keg of home brew down; maybe you could mind it.  I recommend minding it on the inside  :D

Will hopefully make this one too. Really enjoyed it this year. Not sure of the distance yet - will depend where my training is at. Carmen - be good to catch up if you're coming along :-)

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 09:55 PM

View PostCrazypup, on Dec 13 2009, 10:46 PM, said:

Will hopefully make this one too. Really enjoyed it this year. Not sure of the distance yet - will depend where my training is at. Carmen - be good to catch up if you're coming along :-)
Yay crazypup! Be great to catch up.  I have done no training so I'm good to go wherever you are :D

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 10:23 PM

View Postcaleb, on Dec 13 2009, 09:12 PM, said:

Hi,
i am sure the organisers will have enough maps. also 100+ do this so you have very little chance of getting lost...unless you are leading!
it is tough. if you can do sub 3 you will be one of the very fastest. sub 330 is tickety boo and sub 4 nothing to be ashamed of.
Tickety boo eh.

Are you stalking me  :D

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 05:39 AM

Thanks for that Caleb. Don't worry about it, I won't be anywhere near the lead so no real risk of getting lost I guess (I'll just have to try not to get left behind at the back...).

Managed to get some accommodation in Windsor (I know it's not super close, but better than driving up from Canberra at 2am...), now just got to work out a strategy for carrying water on the day and I'll be set.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 07:02 AM

View PostCarmen, on Dec 13 2009, 10:23 PM, said:

...get brewer to bring a keg of home brew down; ...

It's getting kegged today.  :D  (9L party keg)

I'll be there for the 16K party pooper option as a late hit-out before Hobart.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 08:04 AM

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does anyone know who to contact to let know I'll be doing the run? I know there's no registration, but I read something about letting the organisers know so that there'll be enough photocopies of the map...
Sorry - I should make it clear - for BTBS - no need to tell any one you are coming.
Bring your own maps - there will be none given out (by me).
If anyone is feeling generous, please bring spare copies for others.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 08:35 AM

View PostJoggerK, on Dec 14 2009, 09:04 AM, said:

Sorry - I should make it clear - for BTBS - no need to tell any one you are coming.
Bring your own maps - there will be none given out (by me).
If anyone is feeling generous, please bring spare copies for others.

So aren't you charging an entry fee for 2010 Kev?

I hope to be out of the zimmer frame by then and start the training for 6 Foot.

Let the fun begin. :D

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 08:44 AM

This will be my first BTBS and I am super excited about it, I am using it as one of many steps to get me running the Everest Marathon in May.

I went out a few weeks ago to check out the course on that day that was like 40 degrees (which was not the best idea), but I always like to find out what I am getting myself into. I am sure it is going to really punish me (just have to make sure I don't hurt myself as I am off to climb a mountain in Argentina later in the month).

Really looking forward to the event and meeting some new people.

See you out there!

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 09:29 AM

View Postrunjohnnyrun, on Dec 13 2009, 08:46 PM, said:

Hi - this will be my first year doing BTBS too. I'm really looking forward to it. Don't suppose anyone in here has done the 25km version of the Deep Space Mountain Marathon (Namadgi National Park, ACT) and could tell me how the black stump compares??

Also - does anyone know who to contact to let know I'll be doing the run? I know there's no registration, but I read something about letting the organisers know so that there'll be enough photocopies of the map...

Cheers :D

Hi Johnny
Black stump starts with a firetrail & single track bush run down to the ferry
Then long uphill bitumen - similar to the DS return up road, all runnable
Then out & back into bush
Then return down same bitumen - like start of DS
Then very steep singletrack up the hill - maybe similar to Mt Tennant but some bits much steeper, lots of walking here
Then flat bitumen road to finish

I've made the 25k mark at DS in around 3 hours and for black stump (33k) around 4 hours

So fairly similar when you factor in say 15 mins of ferry time

This is a lot more scenic than Namadji!

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 09:59 AM

View PostHorrie, on Dec 14 2009, 09:35 AM, said:

So aren't you charging an entry fee for 2010 Kev?

I hope to be out of the zimmer frame by then and start the training for 6 Foot.

Let the fun begin. :D

But Horrie - it is ONLY 33km.  A walk inthe park for a Gramd Slammer.

This is a great event.  Complete range of terrain from bitumen road, fire trails, single track, vertical climbs (i kid you not) and a free ferry ride.  Who could ask for more on 1st January.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 10:03 AM

View Postotisr, on Dec 14 2009, 10:59 AM, said:

and a free ferry ride.  Who could ask for more on 1st January.

Not one but TWO free ferry rides.

Sadly will be missing this year after 2 years of agony/ecstasy.   My SFt training will be starting south of the border, down Mexico way...

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 10:03 AM

View Postotisr, on Dec 14 2009, 10:59 AM, said:

But Horrie - it is ONLY 33km.  A walk inthe park for a Gramd Slammer.

Otis my man, I am only a wannabe slammer. 3 out of 4 finishes and only 2 under the cutoff.

Look forward to seeing you on New Year's Day.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 11:53 AM

View Postcliffold, on Dec 14 2009, 10:29 AM, said:

Then very steep singletrack up the hill - maybe similar to Mt Tennant but some bits much steeper, lots of walking here
Geez, Clifold. Get it right! It's "...lots of walking crawling here"  :D

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 12:06 PM

View PostsfGnome, on Dec 14 2009, 12:53 PM, said:

Geez, Clifold. Get it right! It's "...lots of walking crawling here"  :D
Going up that cliff face the first and only time I did BTBS (P.P version), I thought my heart was going to jump right out of my chest it was beating that hard and fast.  Lucky, keg, Horrie & BlueBel were around. Though they did take off later after the soft drink / beer? laden garbage bin. What a sight that was!

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 12:08 PM

Lucky enough to be in the area over the summer so planning on my inaugural BTBS.

Any takers for an early start?

I know that contradicts the fat ass communal philosophy but I'm not keen to still be running in the heat at lunchtime.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 01:10 PM

From a handful of starters several years ago this event has really become popular, I heard a rumour over the weekend that it's becoming so popular that they will probably be running qualifiers for the 2011 run........sub 7hr Six Foot was one figure being thrown around/under consideration ;-)

Hoping to be there all going well.

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 03:44 PM

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I know that contradicts the fat ass communal philosophy
the only fat ass philosophy is "no rules".....
shame to miss out on "the happening" though

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 05:35 AM

View Postcliffold, on Dec 14 2009, 10:29 AM, said:

Hi Johnny
Black stump starts with a firetrail & single track bush run down to the ferry
Then long uphill bitumen - similar to the DS return up road, all runnable
Then out & back into bush
Then return down same bitumen - like start of DS
Then very steep singletrack up the hill - maybe similar to Mt Tennant but some bits much steeper, lots of walking here
Then flat bitumen road to finish

I've made the 25k mark at DS in around 3 hours and for black stump (33k) around 4 hours

So fairly similar when you factor in say 15 mins of ferry time

This is a lot more scenic than Namadji!


Thanks for that Cliffold. I thought someone must have run both of them and could compare for me. I'm a bit worried about scrambling up the hill/ cliff, but hopefully I'll survive!! This will be my first run over 30km (apart from one or two training runs on flat ground...).

Can't wait though - I went to a wedding down at Berowra Waters earlier this year and it's such a beautiful place.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 10:23 AM

View Postbrewer, on Dec 14 2009, 08:02 AM, said:

It's getting kegged today.  :cray:  (9L party keg)

I'll be there for the 16K party pooper option as a late hit-out before Hobart.
I'll be doing the short option and probably the road back as I hate that bush track back. But I'll catch the ferry over and back just for fun. I'm doing Hobart as well.

Let's see if I can get breath tested again on the way to the start. 2 out of 4 years in my running gear.

And I'm not even doing that downhill race West of Sydney. :D

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 06:01 PM

View Postrunjohnnyrun, on Dec 13 2009, 08:46 PM, said:

Don't suppose anyone in here has done the 25km version of the Deep Space Mountain Marathon (Namadgi National Park, ACT) and could tell me how the black stump compares??
:D

I've only done the full DSMM and I can tell you that BTBS is not nearly as difficult. I was 40sec per km faster at Berowra last time I did it and I was a lot less experienced back then.


I'll be there on Jan 1, first time since the Jan 2 version back in 2006.

Final long hit-out before B2H on the 10th so won't be doing anything silly.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 08:20 PM

[quote name='Sir Runalot' date='Dec 15 2009, 07:01 PM' post='529007']
I've only done the full DSMM and I can tell you that BTBS is not nearly as difficult. I was 40sec per km faster at Berowra last time I did it and I was a lot less experienced back then.

Cool, thanks for that Sir Runalot. You've put my mind at ease. I haven't yet done the full DSMM, but survived the 25km this year with an ok time, and plan on doing the full marathon in 2010 (along with a few other choice offroad/ trail marathons, one of which is not to be named in this forum...).

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 09:14 PM

View Postrunjohnnyrun, on Dec 15 2009, 09:20 PM, said:

plan on doing the full marathon in 2010.....

Don't forget to take your snow shovel  :D

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 10:20 AM

**BUMP**

Thread has been very low key this year.  Is anyone taking care of putting water/drinks out near the castle or over on the trail near Berowra???  Last couple of years Jan has helped out, but I was chatting to him last night and he will be away on hols.

Must say, if it is a hot day, the drinks are always welcome.


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Posted 27 December 2009 - 12:06 PM

Rod - sorry - Jan took over from me. Unfortunately I have to drive best part of 2hrs now so its jutst too early.

Bins and 2 bags of ice per bin work out ok. happy to chuck $10 in at the end. Needs a keen and dedicated local ...

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 02:26 PM

I'll drop one at the top of the Berowra climb. I have a keg for race finish.

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 04:21 PM

Kev,

I knew your situation - didnt think you would be up when the sparrows fart to do the drop.  

Just wanted to raise it to see what was being planned.  Brewer has the first drop organised.  Maybe a local for the track over near suburbia.

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 04:31 PM

Timmeister and I have been given the gig of going out to the Castle to make sure runners using this run as their 6 Foot qualifier go all the way out. So will be happy to organise a drop where the trail starts after the climb up from the ferry. If people want to give me their supplies, happy to take them out. I will organise a couple of large containers of water.

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 04:41 PM

View PostHorrie, on Dec 27 2009, 05:31 PM, said:

Timmeister and I have been given the gig of going out to the Castle to make sure runners using this run as their 6 Foot qualifier go all the way out. So will be happy to organise a drop where the trail starts after the climb up from the ferry. If people want to give me their supplies, happy to take them out. I will organise a couple of large containers of water.

Happy to provide an esky filled with ice, cokes and solos to the cause.

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 10:26 PM

Looking forward to this, have done the 16k option and the full 33 both are great runs.  
After today's Gorgeous Garie, I'm itching to get back out on the trails again!

Caleb, is it possible for you to edit the thread and add a poll to the top so we can get an idea of how many people going to show?

See you all there!

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 10:39 PM

Will be company for a mate who's doing this for the first time.  A slow and easy run after new year's eve celebrations.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 07:22 PM

Forecast looks like the usual sweaty start.
Min 20 max 26 with possible showers and 82% humidity.

I'm just doing the short run this year and possibly coming back on the road.

GarthMc we had about 100 do Black Stump this year.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 07:50 PM

Yay, I'm coming...my very first Fat Ass!  I just hope it's not dark by the time I finish and I can find my way back  :good: