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#1 wadaye

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 06:50 PM

Anyone set a date for the 12 foot track ultra????

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 06:59 PM

day before city to surf usually

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 07:00 PM

Wadaye,

I asked the same question last year and got told that it is usually on the same weekend of city to surf

Just beat me to it spud

Edited by grimsey, 22 April 2010 - 07:01 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2010 - 11:20 AM

Thanks Spud and Grimsey. Is it usually on the Saturday or the Sunday?

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 12:44 PM

Saturday

Edited by Spud, 27 April 2010 - 12:52 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2010 - 01:50 PM

View PostSpud, on Apr 27 2010, 12:44 PM, said:


Did anyone finish in 2009?  The results are not up yet.  :(

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 02:28 PM

I'll get onto it frankie17

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 02:51 PM

View PostSpud, on Apr 27 2010, 02:28 PM, said:

I'll get onto it frankie17

Only to correlate my SFT times with others SFT/TFT times...ta.

Edited by frankie17, 27 April 2010 - 02:51 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2010 - 02:57 PM

View PostSpud, on Apr 27 2010, 02:28 PM, said:

I'll get onto it frankie17


:(

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 06:59 PM

I finished last year and I am pretty sure the others are not still out there :(

Great event. I was trying to sell it to someone the other day. Not sure if I succeeded.

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 07:44 PM

View PostEverReadyBunny, on Apr 27 2010, 06:59 PM, said:

I finished last year and I am pretty sure the others are not still out there :(

Great event. I was trying to sell it to someone the other day. Not sure if I succeeded.

I am about 5 feet short of turning up for this so am not sure.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:08 AM

I finished it in 2008, dnf last year with knee injury. Would love to go back and make it 2 out of 3 in 2010. A great way to kick off City to Surf weekend!

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 02:06 PM

View PostLong Arms, on Apr 28 2010, 10:08 AM, said:

I finished it in 2008, dnf last year with knee injury. Would love to go back and make it 2 out of 3 in 2010. A great way to kick off City to Surf weekend!

2 dnfs?    :(

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 02:24 PM

Frankie,

I ran 12.39 last year. Ran 92km instead of 90km just for fun. :(

My time last year for SFT was 4.58 and this year was 4.39. I am thinking multiply your SFT time by 2.6 -2.7 roundabout for a 12FT time. Depends a bit on a few other factors as well of course.

How does that sound fellow crazies who turn up for the 'out and back'?

r2w

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 03:13 PM

View Postrun2work, on Apr 28 2010, 02:24 PM, said:

Frankie,

I ran 12.39 last year. Ran 92km instead of 90km just for fun. :(

My time last year for SFT was 4.58 and this year was 4.39. I am thinking multiply your SFT time by 2.6 -2.7 roundabout for a 12FT time. Depends a bit on a few other factors as well of course.

How does that sound fellow crazies who turn up for the 'out and back'?

r2w

Aug 7:
First Light 6:19am
Sunrise 6:45am
Sunset 5:23pm
Last Light 5:49pm


Doesn't look like much chance of a daylight start OR finish.

Is that some of the appeal?  hrumph.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 03:38 PM

Daylight start 7am, no torch required.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 05:18 PM

Oh I would bring your torch. Might not be required then but you just might need it later on :(

I recall starting with a light layer of ice on the rocks heading down to Nellies Glen. Bring some warm clothes too if you are not front of the pack runners.

Sounds like Frankie17 is in already and we still had months to work on you.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 07:47 PM

View PostEverReadyBunny, on Apr 28 2010, 05:18 PM, said:

Sounds like Frankie17 is in already and we still had months to work on you.

I have so not crossed  the Rubicox yet.

Edited by frankie17, 28 April 2010 - 07:53 PM.


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Posted 29 April 2010 - 08:23 AM

Believe it or not, Beaver did once considered 24FT (out and back AND out and BACK)

I think we back off the idea after he said "There are more interesting runs out there to do"!
But I am sure we all know he would have done it..

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 08:33 AM

View Postbuzzlightyear, on Apr 29 2010, 08:23 AM, said:

Believe it or not, Beaver did once considered 24FT (out and back AND out and BACK)

Is that like a lab rat not quite finding the exit chute?

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 01:45 PM

View Postrun2work, on Apr 28 2010, 02:24 PM, said:

Frankie,

I ran 12.39 last year. Ran 92km instead of 90km just for fun. :(

My time last year for SFT was 4.58 and this year was 4.39. I am thinking multiply your SFT time by 2.6 -2.7 roundabout for a 12FT time. Depends a bit on a few other factors as well of course.

How does that sound fellow crazies who turn up for the 'out and back'?

r2w

R2W - my times agree with you.

Frankie, last year's 6Ft took me 5:05, while 12Ft took me 13:27, so a multiplier of 2.65 (bang in the middle of R2W's estimation!). Mind you, I did take about 30mins at Caves House, changing socks, applying bandaids etc and waiting in the Cafe queue for a hot drink.

Last year, the much smarter Horrie got his torch out after crossing Cox's, while I ran on in faltering light until just on 6pm (11hrs in) when my Garmin started telling me it was low on battery. I stopped and got the 'lamp out then.

Although, if we have a full moon like last night, you'll only need a headlamp for Nellies stairs!

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 01:50 PM

Have just put C2S entry in so will need to be in tiptop shape before turning up for this.

Ps erb - have not crossed the Rubicox yet.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 02:47 PM

I'm seriously looking at this one. I've not done it before, although I have done Six Foot four times. If anyone has any tips or wise words I'd like to hear them. Are there any water drops or is it a case of fill up at Caves House? How cold does it get in winter up there and how deep is the river at that time of year?

Long Arms: if you are up there it would be good to catch up for a chat, but with one eye on the course this time. :)

I supose I'll have to enter the C2S now or everyone will say I'm soft, only trouble is I hate the race ( too many people)

Ridler :Praying:

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 03:10 PM

Ridler,

Only did it once in 2008.  That year I did no prep for it other than road marathon training.  Not the best prep and paid for it in the weeks following.  Our 6ft times are fairly similar, so expect to be around 13 hours.  I did outward leg in 5:29 with Milov and staggered home for a total of 12:49.  Aim to pace around 5:40 on the outward leg and you should be fine.

With a bit of luck you might get someone driving out to the Caves.  If so pack a drop bag.  Otherwise use the shop out there.  Thing I enjoyed was a drop bag down at Coxs River when I ran out.  I left a jelly cup, chips, banana and cold drink.  Works well on the climb back up.

In terms of cold, the year I did it, it was freezing.  I still remember getting to deviation at 11am and there was ice still covering water that had pooled in pot holes on the road.  The next day after we ran there was snow on Black Range.  Be prepared for a potentially cold day.  River wasnt too bad, but suppose it all depends on the 2 week lead up.  Worst case scenario you use the swing bridge.

Hope this helps.  I will now return into my shell.  No running for 5 weeks makes for a frustrated runner.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 03:15 PM

and there is a water tank at Cox's and deviation

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 04:02 PM

Hi Ridler,

I enjoyed this run last year. It is like a days hike in the mountains except you spend more time running.

Last year the temp went from 0 to 10 degrees, the sun was out and it was very pleasant.

Robimum (my  wife) transported peoples bags of food to the caves. Also she met me at Caves Road on the way there and the way back. Something similiar will probably happen this year.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 10:10 PM

I have done it the last 2 years and it can be pretty cold early and later on but also a fantastic day out and often perfect running weather in the middle of the day.
Hoping to show up for it again but it seems to be only 2 weeks after what may well be my furthest run ever. Might  have to do the short version :Praying:

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 10:24 AM

Thanks for the info guys. I'm looking forward to this one. Hope to catch up with a few people for a chat. I intend to use this as preparation for the GNW.

Keep the hints coming, I'm all ears.

Ridler :Praying:

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 11:36 AM

View PostTheRidler, on May 27 2010, 10:24 AM, said:

Keep the hints coming, I'm all ears.

Hint: hitch them up before you descend the stairs.

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 12:18 PM

View Postfrankie17, on May 27 2010, 11:36 AM, said:

Hint: hitch them up before you descend the stairs.

:Praying:

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 12:26 PM

View PostTheRidler, on May 27 2010, 12:18 PM, said:

:Praying:

Sorry, a bit cryptic perhaps?

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 02:24 PM

Bump... so who's in for this? Keen to get a list of starters going:

DJBleakman - Yes
Buzz? Beaver? ERB? Innes? Horrie and BB? Terry? Ourimbah? The runner formerly known as Slowmaniac?
The Ridler?
Brick - I'm assuming :diablo:

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 02:31 PM

I'm in.  Keen to try the return run.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 02:50 PM

I will be there but most likely for a 10-11 Foot.

Warm up for the most important race of the year C2S.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 03:07 PM

yeah i am in! Tempted to do the jan hermman Double if C2S is still open!
(I can be a pretender and run C2S!!)

Princess DJB did a 12.5FT last year and I am sure this year he is keen to keep it to the original route.
If history has anything to show, it will be another big crowd and also be another #@# cold day!!

A good day out with mates! Good Fun!!

Edited by buzzlightyear, 30 June 2010 - 08:01 PM.


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Posted 30 June 2010 - 05:37 PM

Count me in too. Hopefully a bit fitter and quicker than previous years.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 08:47 PM

I'm considering it Buzz, but is it hard and does it hurt???? :diablo:

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 07:41 AM

View PostDutchie, on Jun 30 2010, 08:47 PM, said:

I'm considering it Buzz, but is it hard and does it hurt???? :yahoo:
No it is easy and all down hill. :diablo:
And it sure is a fun day on the trail.

Yes Dan I am in for sure, great lead up to Glasshouse.

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 08:12 AM

Yes Dan,

I am in as Run2Work or John Robins or whatever is preferable in these events.

Hoping to finish in the daylight. Hmm that requires a sub 12 finish. :diablo:

r2w

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 08:49 AM

View PostBrick, on Jul 1 2010, 07:41 AM, said:

No it is easy and all down hill. :diablo:
And it sure is a fun day on the trail.
Yes Dan I am in for sure, great lead up to Glasshouse.

Agree - Its easy math - If you can run a Sub 5 6FT, you can easily run 12FT in under 10 hours (+/- a few minutes more for pass through the small bump Nellies Glen) :yahoo:

Princess Dan is committing himself to GH already - So a 9 hours (*yawn*) is on his cards

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 09:21 AM

Damn I knew I shouldn't have checked out coolrunning again. Now I'm considering doing this crazy thing again for my third attempt at the full.

Just for the record here are my 6FT/12FT runs. I have found that I run the first split to Caves house about 15mins slower than my 6FT race time. I don't think my 6FT efforts are run full out.

2007 - Six Foot 4:43 / Rebel 12FT 11:10 // injured knee before Aug 12FT - rode MTB
2008 - Six Foot missed due to surgery but ran 4:23 in training / 12FT 10:23/4:39 6FT split (ran sub 3hr marathon 2 weeks before = big taper)
2009 - Six Foot 4:19 (fell & injured my hip & back) / 12FT - unfit and only ran to caves
2010 - Six Foot 4:20 (unfit) / 12FT?? still unfit

Conversion 6FT time x 2.4 = 12FT

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 09:21 AM

View Postbuzzlightyear, on Jul 1 2010, 08:49 AM, said:

Princess Dan is committing himself to GH already - So a 9 hours (*yawn*) is on his cards
I am guessing that is the sprint option at GH.
We all know what happens to him when he tries 100 miles. :diablo:

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 11:45 AM

View Postdjbleakman, on Jun 30 2010, 02:24 PM, said:

Bump... so who's in for this? Keen to get a list of starters going:

DJBleakman - Yes
Buzz? Beaver? ERB? Innes? Horrie and BB? Terry? Ourimbah? The runner formerly known as Slowmaniac?
The Ridler?
Brick - I'm assuming :yahoo:

I'm in and the Ridler siut is coming out of mothballs for the C2S if I survive the return up Nellies Glen.

Ridler :diablo:

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 12:41 PM

View PostBrick, on Jul 1 2010, 09:21 AM, said:

I am guessing that is the sprint option at GH.
We all know what happens to him when he tries 100 miles. :diablo:

All we need now is Series to come online and finish me off :yahoo:

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 12:49 PM

View Postdjbleakman, on Jul 1 2010, 12:41 PM, said:

All we need now is Series to come online and finish me off :diablo:
She will for getting her name wrong. :yahoo:

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:47 PM

The Rubicox will have to wait another year.  

'High Hamstring Tendinopathy' is long enough to stretch from one side of the river to the other.  And it sucks.

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:22 PM

Pending recovery from current US shenanigans count me in. :diablo:

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 03:06 AM

A chance I'll be in for this again. Managed to twist the ankle going down nellies last year. Hobbled all day, finshed at 11pm, ate a pack of mint slices, drove to sydney, hobbled in the city to surf and spent the rest of the year injured until boxing day. Tostesterone is an evil chemical.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 07:58 AM

Virtual you are hilarious that almost one year later the packet of mint slices still stand out.

I bet they were the best mint slices ever.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 11:15 PM

I'm in for 12 foot for certain! Loved it last year.
I'll likely do the Hermann Double again.

View PostVirtual, on Jul 1 2010, 01:06 PM, said:

Tostesterone is an evil chemical.
Yes, I believe it causes dyslexia :diablo:
...not as evil as Toblerone.