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#1 Paul Every

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 03:03 PM

I thought I would kick this off following on from Stacey Toby's 750km in 75 days thread. I admired her spunk and intent to choose a goal somewhere near the edge of her ability, put it out there on a public forum, and have a crack.

So in the same spirit, starting New Years Day and continuing throughout 2011, can you average 10km of running per day?

I know there are plenty of ultra nuts who could knock this out in the year, but it isn't intended for those of us who frequent the darkside. We have more than enough goals to motivate us to keep up our mileages, and it wouldn't be too much of a challenge for any ultra runner competing regularly.

Actually, I reckon if you run more than one event of 100km or longer in 2011, you are inelligible. Go find a bigger sandpit in which to play. This is more for the marathoners, half enthusiasts and fun runners.

So who is in?

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 03:46 PM

I am in. I cracked 70k in a week for the first time a few weeks ago. I have 1900k YTD, on the back of 1880k last year. So this will be a big step up (and dependant on staying healthy) - but if you don't try, you don't get. And what better way to prepare for a decent marathon (Sydney - September) than by punching out a huge volume of miles  :D

I am currently working on 500k in 50 days (based on a late start to Stacey Toby's challenge) - and am tracking OK so far. So why not extend it for a year :D ! I just have to get used to those new orthotics, and keep on running.

Thanks for the challenge Paul. Who else is in?

Edited by CountryMuzz, 28 November 2010 - 04:31 PM.


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Posted 28 November 2010 - 04:34 PM

I'll give it a go.  10km per day doesn't sound like much, but over a year its quite challenging.  If you take in to account days off due to injuries, tapering, work/family commitments there will have to be some catch up days.  

Good idea Paul.

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 05:02 PM

Disclaimer: I'm intending to be ineligible by running too many ultras next year.

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 05:14 PM

I'm in.

I have a 100km run on the calendar for next year, just the one, so I take it that means I qualify.

Bring it on! :D

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 05:34 PM

It's tempting.....



:D

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 06:58 AM

Tempting indeed, given that my 500 in 50 is failing badly

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 07:13 AM

Yep I'm on board for this, just passed 2000km this calendar year on the weekend, after nearly 2 yrs running, think i need a nice distance goal like that for next year

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:26 AM

Lat year i ran 2401km. I'm at 2160km YTD this year, so will be close to 2400km again. Next year, with a few 100k events on the program, I was thinking I'd try to increase to 3000km. So either way, I'm out! But I like the idea :D

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:34 AM

Just checked my YTD I'm at 3308km, so another 342km in December and I will hit 3650km for 2010.  I will definitely target 3650km again next year.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:54 AM

I am SO out

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:42 AM

Definitely in! I've been looking for a long term challenge and this is perfect. Averaging 60ks per week at the moment, so this is just the stretch I need. Great idea.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:43 AM

View Postminers, on Nov 29 2010, 10:54 AM, said:

I am SO out

Miners, I reckon you could just about swim, ride, run and paddle that far next year  :D

I'll end up with about 2,400 this year.  3,650 is probably too much of a jump, but we'll see what happens.  Something like 3xxx should see the running continue to improve.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:50 AM

im hoping to get 365km for a year :D

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 11:19 AM

For those of us who are stupid enough to do ultras but don't put in enough milage...this goal looks right up my alley.  :D

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 11:56 AM

Seeing as I've done 168180 km over the last 11454 days I reckon I'm in with a chance.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 12:04 PM

Paul - a great idea for a challenge.

The last few years I have been trying to get over 2000k, and will fail again this year - I figured 5km a day would be dead easy, turns out to be far from it.

So I will likely be a non-starter, but a great goal.

I suspect anyone who does it, is not so average at all, but significantly above it. YAMV (your average may vary).

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 12:31 PM

I know I am ineligible to join in on the fun of this challenge.
Would just like to say good luck with who ever attempts it, it will take good consistency to manage to keep up 70km per week average for 12 months.
And hopefully no injuries.
Low KM weeks because of little injuries make it really hard to get your average back up.

Again good luck all.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 03:06 PM

This challenge sounds deceptively simple. However I just checked my ks for the year and I need to run 20 ks a day for the month of December to reach the magic number of 3,650. Good luck to all those who have a go. :D

Quote from Brick:
"I know I am ineligible to join in on the fun of this challenge.
Would just like to say good luck with who ever attempts it, it will take good consistency to manage to keep up 70km per week average for 12 months.
And hopefully no injuries.
Low KM weeks because of little injuries make it really hard to get your average back up.

Again good luck all."

To put this into perspective, Brick, how many k's have you run this year ?

ps. Sorry about the clumsy quote insert. :D

Edited by Sarge, 29 November 2010 - 03:10 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2010 - 03:25 PM

View PostSarge, on Nov 29 2010, 04:06 PM, said:

This challenge sounds deceptively simple.

100% agree - this would be a big big challenge.

If I were eligible this is how I would approach it

Month 1 - 700km
Month 2 - 107.5km
Month 3 - 107.5km

Repeat for 12 months.

Good luck to all who go for this challenge.  There'll be some good hurting going on to achieve it!

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 03:35 PM

Paul Every said:

So in the same spirit, starting New Years Day and continuing throughout 2011, can you average 10km of running per day?
I always run the same 11km run on New Year's Day, so that will get me off to a flying start. Next day is a Sunday so that's good for another 11km. After that it's all downhill. All I can say is "thank God you didn't choose a Leap Year for this"! I'm afraid I'll have to be included out of the challenge as some anticipated overseas travel just will not work with this, but I donate my 3521 km in 354 days in 2008 to the cause!

Good luck to those who participate.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 03:35 PM

View PostPaul Every, on Nov 28 2010, 03:03 PM, said:

Actually, I reckon if you run more than one event of 100km or longer in 2011, you are inelligible. Go find a bigger sandpit in which to play.
pishposh.
any half decently crazy ultrarunner spends enough time injured that they could struggle with this.
not that i would know of course  :D

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 03:44 PM

View PostDolly, on Nov 29 2010, 12:19 PM, said:

For those of us who are stupid enough to do ultras but don't put in enough milage...this goal looks right up my alley.  :D
That would be me.  Sadly I have 2 100km runs planned for next year-and I'll probably only run about 2000km for the year if I'm motivated!

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 03:52 PM

I agree - 10k/day sounds too simple - you have a couple of weeks off and the average goes up quickly.
My plan (easy to sound confident at this stage  :p )  is to be getting up around 90k/wk consistently, with lighter weeks once a month - to get about 350-360/month.
If you do that for 8 months of the year, you "only" have 800 left for the other four months - 45-50k/wk - how hard can that be  :D ?
And I almost forgot - don't get injured! And don't do too many races - they are too disruptive to your training :D

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 04:03 PM

View PostPaul Every, on Nov 28 2010, 04:03 PM, said:

Actually, I reckon if you run more than one event of 100km or longer in 2011, you are inelligible. Go find a bigger sandpit in which to play. This is more for the marathoners, half enthusiasts and fun runners.
Can I join?  I 'technically' qualify, having only gone over 100km once this year - and then a DNF. But I've also run 5350 so far this year and consider myself one of those from the 'dark side'.

Regardless, a great initiative Paul and will be good to see how people go.  My advice would be to get into it early, never have a day off unless you really need it, and where possible run twice a day at least twice per week.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 04:26 PM

Managed it earlier this year with 3874 ks up until 13 February. Longest run in that time was Christchurch Marathon '09.

Needless to say, injury struck, taking the edge off the next 2 months leading into Boston.

Since then been steadily building again and now up to 3545 in last 365 days.

I reckon those who haven't been close to it and try to ramp things too quickly might succumb along the way.

Great idea, would be interesting to know how to spread those 3650 ks out over the 12 mths if your goal was to run 1 fast marathon per year...... any ideas??

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 06:19 PM

As someone that will complete the challenge distance in this calendar year barring something catastrophic (3495.4km so far, planning to hit 4000km before 1 Jan), its been an immensely enjoyable journey.  After taking to running seriously in 2009 and competing a marathon and half-marathon, getting in some good runs and events this year has been awesome.  

The only advice I'd offer is to keep some balance in the training with non-running exercise, find a physio you can trust and treat niggles before they become an issue, and never miss a training session unless you're injured - you'll *always* feel better after the run.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 07:21 AM

View PostSarge, on Nov 29 2010, 04:06 PM, said:

This challenge sounds deceptively simple. However I just checked my ks for the year and I need to run 20 ks a day for the month of December to reach the magic number of 3,650. Good luck to all those who have a go. :D

Quote from Brick:
"I know I am ineligible to join in on the fun of this challenge.
Would just like to say good luck with who ever attempts it, it will take good consistency to manage to keep up 70km per week average for 12 months.
And hopefully no injuries.
Low KM weeks because of little injuries make it really hard to get your average back up.

Again good luck all."

To put this into perspective, Brick, how many k's have you run this year ?

ps. Sorry about the clumsy quote insert. :D
To date this year I am up to 3986.7kms.
Will most likely do about another 400km in December.

Have also done a little cross training riding my bike 1860.6km to date for 2010.

Saying all that I am far from a high volume runner and my cycling is only a commute to and from work as rest days.

Edited by Brick, 30 November 2010 - 07:28 AM.


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Posted 30 November 2010 - 07:45 AM

It's a good challenge, I may be a half chance but everything will have to go right.
Best year was 2008 with 3538kms. This year I'm just shy of 2900 at the moment, so should pass 3000 mid December.
It's the missed days that will take their toll, and I already know I am going to miss a few but with no marathon planned, it could be the motivation to get the long runs done.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 08:12 PM

In the spirit of this thread I aim to run 5km a day for 365 days making a total of 1825 kms a year.  This is double what I have done this year but is within my capabilities with a bit of dedication and commitment.  I really needed something to give me a kick along and I think this is it!

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 08:40 PM

Good on you crazycatwoman! The actual target does not matter so much as coming out with a bold target that will push you to bigger and better things - then giving it a red hot go.

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 10:50 AM

View PostPaul Every, on Nov 28 2010, 03:03 PM, said:

So who is in?

This is a novel concept, and  I'll do some math and get back to you. This is definitely a worthwhile goal for me for 2011.

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 03:37 PM

I'm interested in doing something along these lines as an overall goal for next year, but am not quite sure what numerical value to put on it. I don't think I could commit to the 10km per day of the thread title, but I'm currently ahead of 5km per day (or 1825km for the year).

I started logging my kms in the second week of February this year, and am currently at 1900, and will round out 2000 by the end of the month.

So next year I should be aiming at...?? 7km per day = 2555? Would that be an achievable increase on my 2000 for this year? Or make it 2650, 1000 less than the thread goal?

Ninjette.

Edited by ninjette, 06 December 2010 - 03:38 PM.


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Posted 06 December 2010 - 03:40 PM

View Postninjette, on Dec 6 2010, 04:37 PM, said:

I'm interested in doing something along these lines as an overall goal for next year, but am not quite sure what numerical value to put on it. I don't think I could commit to the 10km per day of the thread title, but I'm currently ahead of 5km per day (or 1825km for the year).

I started logging my kms in the second week of February this year, and am currently at 1900, and will round out 2000 by the end of the month.

So next year I should be aiming at...?? 7km per day = 2555? Would that be an achievable increase on my 2000 for this year? Or make it 2650, 1000 less than the thread goal?

Ninjette.

How about 50km per week, to give you 2600km for the year.  50km seems like a nice round number to target.

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 04:16 PM

View PostTony123, on Dec 6 2010, 04:40 PM, said:

How about 50km per week, to give you 2600km for the year.  50km seems like a nice round number to target.

Thanks for the quick reply, Tony!

Yes, you're right: 50km per week is a nice round number and, I think, should be doable.

So I'll set 2600km as my goal for 2011.

Thanks again,

Ninjette.  :D

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 06:39 PM

My approach is slightly less demanding - I set myself a goal of running no less than my age in a given week - and I can't carry forward amounts from one week to the next.

I'm 37 now, so therefore I must run 37 kms a week.  Equates to about 1900km a year (assuming minimum ks each week).  I have had a few good weeks though this year so am on track for about 2400km this year.

Of course, as I get older, the ks required mount, as does the time required to complete each one...  :D

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 07:38 AM

Clocked 3650km for 2010 this morning :D.  Still time to get to 4000.

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 09:05 AM

max speed 502050.8 km/h????

you should be in the olympics man.

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 11:57 AM

View PostZorba, on Dec 8 2010, 10:05 AM, said:

max speed 502050.8 km/h????

you should be in the olympics man.

Lunch-time CBD runs tend to get some crazy speeds at the start of the run - I checked the raw data once out of interest and it was something like a 500m jump in 1s followed by a couple of minutes of 'stand-still' readings.  Circular Quay seems to be the worst.  I'm a slow trail guy who rarely exceeds a 4 min/km pace :D

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 12:34 PM

Hey, this is a great concept.
I'll put my hand up for 2600km (50km per week - don't want to commit to anything too crazy).
Am building up my times to do my first full marathon next March and at present am over 50km some weeks and under others.
Being a morning runner (am brain dead in the evenings after work and don't feel like doing much). this challenge will give me the extra motivation to get out of bed in the mornings!

Was wondering what comes next after March but this will keep me going for the rest of 2011.

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 02:44 PM

View PostKiwiShazza, on Dec 8 2010, 01:34 PM, said:

Was wondering what comes next after March but this will keep me going for the rest of 2011.
In my experience what comes next is the sudden realisation that whatever you did for your first one was not enough - and you start training for your next one :D .

Edited by CountryMuzz, 08 December 2010 - 02:54 PM.


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Posted 08 December 2010 - 03:36 PM

View PostKiwiShazza, on Dec 8 2010, 01:34 PM, said:

Was wondering what comes next after March ......

April

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 12:00 PM

View PostCountryMuzz, on Dec 8 2010, 03:44 PM, said:

In my experience what comes next is the sudden realisation that whatever you did for your first one was not enough - and you start training for your next one :D .


SOoooooo encouraging!

View PostBoneyChic, on Dec 8 2010, 04:36 PM, said:

April

So funny!

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 12:30 PM

Being one of 'those' ultra nuts I guess I am out ... but fully agree with UCB.
After a big Sept & Oct (in terms of kms) in Nov I managed 64kms in total (although I did do 750+ on the bike)

So I set myself a goal of beating my run and ride totals from last year - but I will not make those because of 7 weeks 'lost' training with a broken arm. Next aim is to better 2000kms run and 6000kms on the bike - so as of last Monday I have to do 56 run and 285 bike each week until Dec 31 ...   :D (think I have the run kms covered but the bike ... not so sure).

3650 will be harder than some of you think - good luck.

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 01:22 PM

Ran my first marathon this year - but only solidly trained for 4 months for it. Few inconsistent months early in the year has given me about 1200km for the year to date.

Training more consistently over the summer period now, and will aim to continue doing so. At least one longish holiday (around a month) being planned overseas for next year - will impact the running capability.

But have the goal in my mind of running 2 marathons and clocking up at least 2400km in 2011 - that will double what i have logged since i started noting my training in March 2008.

Gives me an average of 46km per week for the year to aim for - that should be achievable and keep me motivated to train consistently throughout the quiet periods without dramatically increasing my risk of injury.

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 01:56 PM

View PostEatEm, on Dec 9 2010, 12:30 PM, said:

3650 will be harder than some of you think - good luck.

Agreed, I give myself a fairly high chance of not making this goal, but I might as well have some hard goal to reach for rather than just giving myself a task that I know that I can achieve. I'm sure I will be happy with what I achieve regardless, as long as I give myself every opportunity to do the best i can.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 05:40 PM

View PostNickW, on Dec 7 2010, 03:38 PM, said:

Clocked 3650km for 2010 this morning :D.  Still time to get to 4000.

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I did 4,013 km last year - the last 3 months really took its toll on me.  This year I am looking at a more standard 3,150 (or so).  Good luck to all those looking at doing 3,650 kms next year.  It can be a hard grind.

Cheers, David

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 07:52 PM

View Postcrazycatwoman, on Dec 3 2010, 09:12 PM, said:

In the spirit of this thread I aim to run 5km a day for 365 days making a total of 1825 kms a year.  This is double what I have done this year but is within my capabilities with a bit of dedication and commitment.  I really needed something to give me a kick along and I think this is it!

How about pushing it a bit further and going for 2011km in 2011?!
Thats 5.5km per day.

Considering it myself now - needs a new thread.

And Mr Every needs to tell us what his goals are instead of revving up everyone else!!!!........

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 10:04 AM

ok, im in but i am only going to attempt 1000km. doesnt sound like a lot but at the moment i am only doing 6km a week and just about to increase to 10 as i am only a novice. getting to 1000km in a year will be a massive effort for me.

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 08:43 AM

View Postundercover brother, on Nov 29 2010, 03:35 PM, said:

pishposh.
any half decently crazy ultrarunner spends enough time injured that they could struggle with this.
not that i would know of course  :D
i LOVE this idea paul ...

in agreeance with ucb, not sure just cos someone is an ultra runner they necessarily cover this distance in training ...!!
i tend though, to do running in cycles - im full on, then i do more gym work than anything else before i realise my running for the week has been pushed to the side ..
yes, i will be doing a couple of ultras this year, but my running is far from uniform, i think this is an AWESOME challenge, and goal, even for myself, that creates that steady approach based on regularity ... it sounds easy, and yes, i do some long runs now and again which may boost the total on the occasion :D but it ISNT an easy target at all!!!
this works on 'consistency', creating a 'streak' ...  that would be a good focus for me...

there would be no way i did 3650kms this year ... even with a handful of ultras thrown in - not even close! i keep a rough guide but, like my running, though i like to keep it up to date, i forget a day or two which turns into a week, and im struggling to remember everything i did (called old age too though! buggar!)

so, hopefully im allowed to join in :p
and my goal - 3650kms in 365 days - with a consistent approach - and of course, having to keep an accurate record of all running

peace
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Edited by anelike, 16 December 2010 - 08:46 AM.