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[Jogger]

Note - I have updated 6ft website to link to the location for live results:
http://www.sixfoot.com/results.php

Note - will not give live updates for cox's or pluvi only finishers.
They will be wave-adjusted times.

[EverReadyBunny]

That is very cool Kevin.

I was most intrigued when I saw the post saying results before the race was even run

[Unlikelyrunner]

EverReadyBunny, on 11 March 2011 - 01:13 PM, said:

That is very cool Kevin.

I was most intrigued when I saw the post saying results before the race was even run

Had a quick peek at the site that has the results.  It says the race is 46km   who through that extra km in to the equation???  

[chops]

EverReadyBunny, on 11 March 2011 - 01:13 PM, said:

That is very cool Kevin.

I was most intrigued when I saw the post saying results before the race was even run

I've done that before,usually when I have got the day wrong.

[Action]

Unlikelyrunner, on 11 March 2011 - 02:02 PM, said:

Had a quick peek at the site that has the results.  It says the race is 46km   who through that extra km in to the equation???  

It was notionally 46k until Kev and some of him mates decided to actually get it measured properly a few years ago - 45k was the answer.  If you look carefully on the left hand side of the track there are were green stakes with each km written on them - I spotted about half of them last year - they have been slowly disappearing.  Perhaps another trip through is needed to refresh the markers?

Anyway, if you do the statistics on the times over the course, it is roughly the equivalent of a 60k road race... not to be sneezed at!

[Crew]

Is someone being tongue-in-cheek about the "pulvometer"? I mean, excellent name and all...

[Uncle Dave]

Looks like a winning time of 3:35 by Andrew Lee? No Alex Matthews in the top 5. ?

Interesting:


1 Andrew LEE 102 40-49 Finish 03:35:22 00:00:00
2 Brendan DAVIES 104 30-39 Finish 03:37:27 00:02:05
3 Rob WALTER 123 30-39 Finish 03:38:35 00:03:12
4 Anthony SCOTT 106 40-49 Finish 03:40:46 00:05:24
5 Andrew TUCKEY 108 30-39 Finish 03:41:10 00:05:47

[Uncle Dave]

...good run by Dave Byrnes to nab 10th place. Record for the 60-69 age category?



1 Andrew LEE 102 40-49 Finish 03:35:22 00:00:00
2 Brendan DAVIES 104 30-39 Finish 03:37:27 00:02:05
3 Rob WALTER 123 30-39 Finish 03:38:35 00:03:12
4 Anthony SCOTT 106 40-49 Finish 03:40:46 00:05:24
5 Andrew TUCKEY 108 30-39 Finish 03:41:10 00:05:47
6 Alexander MATTHEWS 101 20-29 Finish 03:41:49 00:06:27
7 David HOSKING 110 40-49 Finish 03:44:34 00:09:12
8 Quentin REEVE 195 20-29 Finish 03:44:51 00:09:28
9 Tom HIGHNAM 115 30-39 Finish 03:49:57 00:14:34
10 David BYRNES 1108 60-69 Finish 04:48:49 01:13:26

edited to say yep I'm a dumbass...just realised he was an early starter and hence not top 10....still a good run!

Edited by Uncle Dave, 12 March 2011 - 10:54 AM.

[WallyGator]

Good run by MrD for 2nd

[thomo]

Thanks Uncle dave for the updates.

Mr D so close.

[Uncle Dave]

...another good run by 'oldie' Warwick Selby to nab 2nd in his age group in 4:55!

[Sportsman]

Uncle Dave, on 12 March 2011 - 10:52 AM, said:

...good run by Dave Byrnes to nab 10th place. Record for the 60-69 age category?

to say yep I'm a dumbass...just realised he was an early starter and hence not top 10....still a good run!

You should have edited to say ..over the line.

Yes great run, a resord I think.
Also Warick Selby 4:55 60+ is a top time.

The top times are slow this year

Edited by Sportsman, 12 March 2011 - 11:03 AM.

[Uncle Dave]

Anna Frost also did well to win the womens' race in just under 3:53...can't be bothered looking up stats at the moment and may well be wrong, but I can only think of Emma Murray as faster woman at 6FT?

D

[vat]

Crew, on 12 March 2011 - 08:17 AM, said:

Is someone being tongue-in-cheek about the "pulvometer"? I mean, excellent name and all...

Heh - except it's 'pluviometer', a reference to the rain gauge that sits atop the end of the massive climb (at the 26km mark) where you start the Black Ranges section.  As you come up and crest the hill, the meter's off to the left a bit, surrounded by a wire mesh fence.

[superflake]

1. Andrew Lee 3:35:22
2. Brendan Davies 3:37:27
3. Rob Walter 3:38:35
4. Anthony Scott 3:40:46
5. Andrew Tuckey 3:41:10
6. Alex Matthews 3:41:49(defending champ)

1. Anna Frost 3:52:48
2. Vanessa Haverd 4:03:57
3. Beth Cardelli 4:10:06
4. Lucy Blaber 4:10:23
5. Angela Bateup 4:21:44
6. Colleen Middleton 4:28:29(defending champ)

Congratulations to the winners today. Plus everyone else who slogged it out in the bush for 45 ks.

And Uncle Dave the time is the 3rd fastest ever.
Emma Murray 3:37(2006)
Emma Murray 3:44(2005)
Vaness Haverd 3:58(2009)

[MountainMan]

I was slower than last year by 6mins and placed higher!    I did half the run training in preparation this year compared to last (averaged less than 40kms per week for 8 weeks leading up!). What was everyone else's excuse? Maybe everyone trained twice as much, got injured and didn't turn up?  

4:38, last 10kms was pretty tough and I will not prepare for a Marathon like that again, too much cross training.

Once again, brilliantly run event well done and thanks to all involved in this race.

[Unlikelyrunner]

I did 5:37 and went 8 mins faster than my target time and finished in the top half by the looks of it.....would have been a bit faster if I hadnt of taken a massive fall in the teaming rain with about 9km to go.

Rather stoked, fantastic race, organised well, volunteers along the course great, fellow comeptitors just so gracious!!!

I'll be back!!

[Jogger]

I have updated the results page now - including how many started, finished, dnfs etc
http://www.sixfoot.com/results.php

How did everyone go ?

For myself I LOVED the mud, but I did run a much slower time than expected - I think this is the case with many runners.
Potentially lack of training in my case.
Awesome run by Anna Frost.

[Hamburglar]

Nice tight race in the male teams event with striders beating Gramps army by a total of 28 secs.

I am a little surprised by all the poor times, I didn't think the conditions were too bad. A little humid, but nothing to slow us all down too much.

[Spud]

Another great day on the track. Didn't find conditions too bad in fact I thought they were quite good.
I have added a couple of columns to the results sheet with 'KOM' and 'Pluvi to finish' splits.

 2011results-6FT.xls   316K   157 downloads

[Yoyos]

First of all, a massive thanks to Colin and all the team involved in organising the race.  Also, thanks to the RFS guys and girls - what legends!

This was my first 6FT and I did a 5.17.  I was hoping to be a little faster, but given where I ended up overall, I'm pretty chuffed.  I was adamant yesterday that I'd never, ever do it again, but now I'm not so sure... If I do do it again, I'll definitely carry water with me.

[Toffy]

Yoyos, on 13 March 2011 - 12:03 PM, said:

First of all, a massive thanks to Colin and all the team involved in organising the race.  Also, thanks to the RFS guys and girls - what legends!

Hear, hear - couldn't agree more!!

Simply remarkable, and how lucky are we to have so many people who are willing to support our running endeavours in the way that they do?! No need or request for fanfare, just a passion to give as many others who are also passionate about running this amazing event, the opportunity to do so.....

Thank you so much to all involved "behind the scenes" and to all those who offered [or well-received] encouragement along the way........

Cheers
Toffy

[Sir Runalot]

Another very successful running of this iconic event, well done Colin & team. Will post a report letter when I have had time to write it.

For now I am looking for an angel, a runner who came to my aid in a time of need.

I hit the 'wall' rather badly with about a km to go yesterday and was in desperate need of assistance. As I lay by the side of the track a few people helped me out including one girl who gave me her drink bottle before running off.

Based on the results I can make an educated guess as to the identity of this Florence Nightingale of the running world, but can' be sure.

If this is you, please contact me (PM) so I can get the bottle back to you. (If she's not a CR reader and you know who she is please let her know that I want to get in touch)

I did make it to the finish line having taken almost 19 minutes to cover the 44th km.  What a disaster. All my own fault for choosing to miss the final aid station because I told myself "not far to go, you won't need a drink now" - sometimes we learn form our mistakes and sometimes we need to be beaten about the head with a great lump of wood before the message sinks in.

SR

[caleb]

Well a PW for me of 4.38 yesterday. Mind you pleased with the result as doubtful i was a starter let alone finisher after some injury and cold last week.
A relief not to be overtaken by some, (you know who you are)..and an enjoyable run. I love running in the heat, hate the cold and usually freeze to death on the black range..that i didnt this year possibly a testament to it being warmer? / more humid than usual.
Sorry to hear it rained on tropic thunder's parade.
Claeb

[ScamBullant]

Great day out as per normal. I may volunteer for taking broom to sweep the course next year. Can't have those loose rocks lying around on a trail run again .

Congratulations to striders on teams victories in both male and female. The bmmc-RW dream lives on for another year.

Great to see one of the friendliest runners going round, Andy Lee claim a 6 foot title to go with his 2 north face wins.

[TropicThunder]

Sir Runalot, on 13 March 2011 - 12:58 PM, said:

I did make it to the finish line having taken almost 19 minutes to cover the 44th km.  What a disaster.

SR

SR there is no disaster, you had the guts to finish, but some consolation - after my first dry retch half way up mini i slowly but surely deteriorated until it took me approx 45mins for the last 3  

I too experienced plenty of "angels", a special note to one darling who stopped. After I mumbled I was suffering badly - she thought I was cramping and gave me special anti cramp spray under my tongue - lucky she ran off before the spray's effect took hold - on my stomach!!

& Caleb, you'll keep

[Espie]

This was my first 6ft experience and a huge thank you to the organisers for a terrific day out.  I couldn't fault the organisation from start to finish.  The only feedback I offer is that I'd be happy to pay more to do this race, with the increase going as a donation to the fire service who did a great job.  When you are travelling to the race (in my case from Brisbane) the race entry fee is a minor part of the overall expense anyway.

In terms of the outcome I surprised myself by finishing in 5:35, well below my target of 6:00.  In particular I found out I'm a better power walker up hills than I realised!  I fought cramps in various muscles from pluvio to the finish, but I guess that's what 6ft is all about.

I'll definitely be back.

Cheers, Simon.

[Lotsahare]

Mr.D. congrats  on 2nd watching u run up those hills is simply awsome ! SMC42K you r SIMPLY THE BEST! Congrats on finishing 18 gruelling 6ft races .Mega congrats to our 'Lightning' Lynda  also on your massive p.b along with our other mates..R.Angel &F.Emu  who also did  sub sub 6hr.! Also special congrats to Greg Norman sub 5hrs unbelievable stuff the skies the limit..hope u celebrated big time.. Good job  Sailaway who  along with Rags doubted himself?? Good run my mate Cazzy1  especially pulling up after doing the 50k at CC. Graham Wye.what a great time u did the black eye was worth it!Looks like those 300k's u put in Martin D. certainly paid off.. Papa Luigi do i need a prescription for what you're on ?  Runhard judging by your result i think you've been faking your injuries...Trailpuddin this was just a warm up for you..saving the best for last eh..   Missed you out there Gra Gra hope all is on the mend.. Even though my legs didn't want to come to the party this year it was still a great race &  I will be back for my 4th year. Thanks to all the super cool runners for their encouragement you are  all sooo nice.  As much as i like u Dutchie i was very happy not to experience your broom up my  tail!  Thanks  Colin for putting on another great race & to all the wonderful Firies & to the vollies giving up their time to keep us  safe & alive.

Edited by Lotsahare, 13 March 2011 - 08:00 PM.

[SixFootTrackMarathon]

Posted on 'Update' thread as well.

What a blast. Another year over and already thinking about next year. Hopefully I will be able to run myself as I may have an experienced runner/RD as a manager on the day. Holding thumbs on that.

Got home safely this afternoon, after dropping Rodthehornet and his eskies full of exotic beer. That guy is on a winner taking all that unfinished beer with him every year. He made sure he took both eskies but forgot his smelly race gear in my ute.

Congrats to Andrew and Anna and of course happy to see a CR favourite MrD in 2nd and my mate John (SMC42K) get an emotional 18th.

I will send out a detailed feedback email to the entrants, but let me just make a few comments here.

Firstly I must pass on my appreciation to all the entrants and supporters for their thanks yesterday.
By and large the race went without a hitch and is almost anti climactic on the day as you constantly think you are overlooking doing something. The organisation is done and most of it is up to the runners and the volunteers. You just have to 'fight the fires' that may flare up.

To all the volunteers and the RFS,thanks ...we can't do it without you.

At the risk of omitting some I am going to mention a few names.

Firstly my better half Yoli for putting up with it and working extra hard while I was neglecting the 'day job'.
The RFS led by Rod Walker for their logistics.
Kevin Tiller for looking after the website and still a few other things and being a source of advice.
Dave Bray and Striders-support and advice.
The volunteers led by Pauline and Steve ( CR 'Barefoot').
Ben (CR hatless) for the wave guru work. The results at first glance indicate that your calculations with my discretions are getting it better and better.
Tom Silk for all his 'supply' work. If I hadn't met him briefly after last year's race I would have thought that such effeciency must be due to some auto computer. The stuff just get ordered and turn up at the right places, without much ado.
Martin (Plu) for his race pack work and and Keith (Buzz) for never spitting the dummy about not getting on and instead bringing his experience to help out.
Steve 'Action' Jackson for the sweepers who ensure that all stragglers are helped out.
Our sponsors esp the electrolyte -Fastgear/High5- and our paid service providers, Multisport Timing, Event Services International (approvals), Dr King and party (medical), St Johns and Ambulance, Ablaze Printing (bibs), Get Shirty (apparel), Activenetwork (online entry)
Supersport Images for photos.
The 'beer bettors' for bringing their great enthusiasm to the race.

Issues and ideas.
Car travel to Jenolan Caves: Seemed to be a mix between the short route and the preferred Duckmalloi route, still not enough, but noticeable in the reduced traffic around the finish area. Going in right direction.
The second bus to JC had only 10 people in it and the car parks were full with about 40 cars of disappointed people turned away. More reason to use the buses if they are provided. Do not vent your anger on the parking attendants for missing out.
The JC road out through arch gets closed for up to 60 min (around presentation time). Cars were asked to go via Duckmalloi Rd, but most refused with many irate drivers 'taking it out' on RFS. Guys, I know the rain made things worse, but I made the call to RFS not to announce when the road will be closed - because of the obvious rush that would have happenned. The road gets closed, there is an alternate route--use it.
The rain made things different for spectators and I was concerned about the clothing bags in the rain. The volunteers made their best effort to cover and close the bags. My apologies if any had damp clothes after a shower, but it would be no different at C2S. I have
had no complaints thankfully.
Race pack preparation and distribution is still a pain in the proverbial. I am leaning towards merchandise distribution direct from supplier with only handing out bibs/chips on Friday/Sat.
Attritrion rate was high yesterday- will have to analyse, but entry criteria will be tightened anyway.
Full field started...will make a submission for additional 150, and qualification will be trimmed to last 12 months pre race only (all finishers safe of course), more qualifier events benchmarked and a more streamlined entry process between guarrantee, vets and novices.

All for now...thanks for being part of the action and making it worthwhile...keep donating people.

Edited by SixFootTrackMarathon, 13 March 2011 - 09:10 PM.

[JustinL]

A massive thank you to Colin and the amazing team who organised this great race. Also to all the people running the drink stations, thanks for all you did for the runners out there yesterday.

As a first time runner in this race, my experience lived up to all that I had heard about this race. For me, crossed the line in a time that I am happy with in the bucketing rain at 5.15. My run from Caves Road to the finish was a high point, had left a bit in reserve and was able to pick up the pace even in the heavy rain. Many memories throughout the whole 45kms, but how do you top the approach to the finish line with the crowd cheering you in!!

The name on the bib is a good idea particularly for people at drinkstations and spectators. I saw a few runners who had written their names on their tops/singlets aswell, which is I thought was good for runners encouraging other runners during the race.

One last thing, congratulations to all the runners. Hope to see you next year at this iconic event.

[hatless]

SixFootTrackMarathon, on 13 March 2011 - 08:42 PM, said:

Another year over and already thinking about next year.

Hey Colin - awesome day as always.

One quick (admittedly selfish) idea for next year. Could we reserve some spots in the bottom car-park for people with prams / wheelchairs etc? It's pretty tough getting the pram up all those stairs and taking it down the road is a tad dangerous.

Hope you manage to organise a run for yourself next year,

h.

[Sportsman]

Great job, SFTM and crew.
I hope next year is not my 3rd withdrawal in a row.

[Kanimbla]

Great race this year !

Pity about the rain at the end - it dampened my beer somewhat - but loved it on the run !

Colin - higher attrition rate and toughen up criteria - I hope not !

2011 95 %

2010 97 %
2008 96 %
2007 96 %
1988 97 %
1984 100 %

2011 looked pretty good to me !
With only 5 years better with minimal margin.

Its difficult enough to get in already

I have a friend who came in 4.55 who hasnt run it in 10 years

Just because they havnt qualified in the last year doesnt make them a bad risk.

Anyway - thanks for the veterans reserved spots - please look after the people who have supported this for many years.

Thanks to the RFS
Thanks to the photographers - hope your equipment didnt get wrecked in the rain

cant wait for next year !
cheers

[SixFootTrackMarathon]

hatless, on 13 March 2011 - 09:21 PM, said:

One quick (admittedly selfish) idea for next year. Could we reserve some spots in the bottom car-park for people with prams / wheelchairs etc? It's pretty tough getting the pram up all those stairs and taking it down the road is a tad dangerous.

Good point, but...there is a lot of things that I would like JC people to do for us, but they don't want to make allowances specifically to race spectators that do not normally apply to tourists. I will try.

Kanimbla, on 13 March 2011 - 09:42 PM, said:

Colin - higher attrition rate and toughen up criteria - I hope not !

2011 95 %

2010 97 %

SixFootTrackMarathon, on 13 March 2011 - 08:42 PM, said:

Attritrion rate was high yesterday- will have to analyse, but entry criteria will be tightened anyway.

i.e. irrespective of what the attrition rate was. There is/will be 9 months warning that this will happen, finishers have already qualfied and everyone else has 9 more months to do so.
Anyway...the stats are actually 2010 98.2%, 2011 96.3%

Kanimbla, on 13 March 2011 - 09:42 PM, said:

I have a friend who came in 4.55 who hasnt run it in 10 years

Just because they havnt qualified in the last year doesnt make them a bad risk.

Again..irrelevant to the reason I am doing it, but your friend would then have done another qualifier in last 3 yrs wouldn't he?

Anyone who is half serious about the race would be training for months for it and surely capable and willing to run a qualifier.

The reason for doing it has more to do with the fact that in past the growth in demand was accomodated by increasing the limit. This is no longer happenning so we do have to do other things. 20,000 people qualify for Comrades in 12 months prior...they can do same for 6ft.

Kanimbla, on 13 March 2011 - 09:42 PM, said:

Anyway - thanks for the veterans reserved spots - please look after the people who have supported this for many years.

Cake and eating it?

[trailpuddin]

Thanks to the organisers and vollies - another brilliant day in the mountains.  I had a superb time out there.  Loved Wave 4 - "The Social Set" as we now call it - friendly, easy going, lots of encouragement.  I don't think things could have run smoother or more professional.  

Thanks again!! I will be back - I have unfinished business with that Sub 6hr barrier!  

Kirrily

[paddorunner]

Another 6 Foot in the bag! Thanks to CJ and the organising committee/volunteers/RFS who make it such an amazing event. I was lucky to finish 2 minutes before the rain pelted down in a PB of 4:57, as coming down those stone steps would have been much trickier in the rain. I agree that mechandise distribution is difficult to co-ordinate, especially when the sizing is so uncertain. I ordered a medium top and had to swap with a mate who had a large and I'm normally a small! It puts too much strain on the volunteers I think to try and sort out problems after the race when everyone is tired, hungry and cramped. I know there are probably very good reasons why there wasn't a city pick up point as initially proposed (and I'm certainly not criticising anyone), but having a chance for Sydney based people who arent staying over the night before to pick up their race packs and merchandise beforehand may take a lot of the pressure off. Once again though, fantastic job to everyone and I'm now halfway to getting that buckle!

[hatless]

Hi guys,

I put this on the Update thread, but I'll put it here as well.

The wave allocations seemed to work well this year. There was good separation between W1 and W2. Harder to separate W2 - 4 because there are always people like me who have a good qualifier and then have a shocker on the day...  

Cheers,

h.

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Edited by hatless, 14 March 2011 - 06:57 AM.

[Hallac]

Feedback on the route to JC and back

My back up team drove straight to JC after being bussed back to the park and ride. No issues en route and parked in top car park as bottom one already full. After race I wanted to leave rather than stay for presentations as was feeling ill. The road through JC was about to be closed so we went via Duckmaloi - no issues at all - good road once you get to the top of the hill, so don't know why people would have issues doing this apart from selfishness

Last year with my family supporting including younger kids we bussed in and out. Worked very well and easy to get on bus as in bottom car park if you have young kids. The walk up to the top car park nearly finished me off post race this year. Highly recommend bus

Edited by Hallac, 14 March 2011 - 07:42 AM.

[LTE]

The rain was such a welcome relief on the track. Great run!

[Unlikelyrunner]

Having had a good think about things there are only 2 things that I can even come close to being critical of.

1. Salt - read in the guide that salt would be provided so didnt carry my own.  Started to cramp a bit with 10km to go, then asked for salt at one of the stations and was told no, not allowed this year.  This could have been avoided.

2. A bloke who was in the race (and did get in my way once) but wasnt a competitor.  He seemed to know a lot of the older folk who had done 6foot many many times.  He was very solid/stocky, wore glases, maybe in his 50's? He would have gone through Cox's at about 1:40 if he started in Wave 3. Each time he went past a checkpoint he was asked to show his number by the vollies and he said something like "nope - just out for a Sunday run". Laughed when one of them at one station piped back "well its Saturday so get off the course".

Anyway, people like this should p*ss off.  If you know who this person is then tell him I said as such.   

[SixFootTrackMarathon]

Unlikelyrunner, on 14 March 2011 - 09:30 AM, said:

1. Salt - read in the guide that salt would be provided so didnt carry my own.  Started to cramp a bit with 10km to go, then asked for salt at one of the stations and was told no, not allowed this year.  This could have been avoided.

More reason to read my emails. Wednesday 9th email had the following:

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Aid Stations and Medical:

Please see website for aid station locations. The aid stations will stock water, High5 electrolyte, coke (from about midway), gels (limited), energy bars (limited), fruit, snakes, vaseline, sunscreen, first aid and last but not least friendly helpful volunteers.

There will be no salt tabs/rocks etc at the aid stations. If you are dependent on that to prevent/stop cramping please ensure that you carry your own.

The race medical team will have a ‘roving doctor’ on the Black Range; an ambulance will be stationed at the Caves Road crossing, St Johns and the medical team at the finish (behind hotel) and 15min massages on first come first served at $25 ea.

A young female runner appeared out of the darkness at the start at about 6:15am and asked "when does Wave 1 start again"? I said "same as every year, and on website and in the countless emails, 8am". She replied; "oh,I don't read that because I have run it before"

Back to the salt, perhaps the vollie should have said "not provided" instead of "not allowed". The reason was that our sponsor did not supply the salt and because it is a personal preference, i.e. not a medical necessity I suggested that runners take care of their own

Unlikelyrunner, on 14 March 2011 - 09:30 AM, said:

2. A bloke who was in the race (and did get in my way once) but wasnt a competitor.....:

Nothing much we can do about that and unless it was a waitlister and I know who it is there cannot be any action. The track is open to casual hikers/runners and if he didn't use the provisions then what right do I have to tell him to p**s off?

[Kanimbla]

Hi there

Just out of interest - am I right in assuming the finish times are gun times.
Will we get the net times when you get a chance ?

cheers

[Unlikelyrunner]

SixFootTrackMarathon, on 14 March 2011 - 09:49 AM, said:

More reason to read my emails. Wednesday 9th email had the following:


A young female runner appeared out of the darkness at the start at about 6:15am and asked "when does Wave 1 start again"? I said "same as every year, and on website and in the countless emails, 8am". She replied; "oh,I don't read that because I have run it before"

Back to the salt, perhaps the vollie should have said "not provided" instead of "not allowed". The reason was that our sponsor did not supply the salt and because it is a personal preference, i.e. not a medical necessity I suggested that runners take care of their own



Nothing much we can do about that and unless it was a waitlister and I know who it is there cannot be any action. The track is open to casual hikers/runners and if he didn't use the provisions then what right do I have to tell him to p**s off?

Only because it was proving difficult for the spotters at each station.  People were streaming through fairly fast and they were struggling to keep up.  To have a non-competitor in the middle making things difficult isnt what they needed. And as I said, I couldnt pass him at one stage going down to cox's and I got a little frustrated.  No reflection of the organisers whatsoever, just the selfish individual.  It wasnt as if he didnt know the race was on.

[buzzlightyear]

Disappointed to see 35 DNS - While I know injuries and other commitments do come up, sometimes unexpectedly, it is sad to see 35 other runners on the wait list have missed out.

Come on interstaters, I am sure if you have not booked your flights 2 weeks out, you would know you are not running right?

Ok, had my month's worth of whinging.

Good run everyone..great Race Committee and fantastic work by RD Colin.

Edited by buzzlightyear, 14 March 2011 - 10:13 AM.

[SixFootTrackMarathon]

Buzz,

The race was overbooked to allow for those. If I replaced them then we would have been over the limit, so they didn't deny anyone a spot- instead they added to the coffers. About 15 of those that informed me prior to race.

Kanimbla, on 14 March 2011 - 09:53 AM, said:

Just out of interest - am I right in assuming the finish times are gun times.
Will we get the net times when you get a chance ?

Yes, they are gun times. Races started exactly on official global time to the second (just check the garmin), waves are small i.e. everyone is basically on start line and start mat is located 50m after start in order to get everyone over it and not used as a nett time located. So gun times = nett time in this instance.

[Jogger]

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Disappointed to see 35 DNS - While I know injuries and other commitments do come up, sometimes unexpectedly, it is sad to see 35 other runners on the wait list have missed out.

Buzz - I well appreciated your good grace in not getting a place and still coming up to help out.
It showed a great attitude and you were a great help - many thanks indeed

Looking at the bigger picture, it shows that Colin ran a tight but fair ship, given the constraint of "850 runners".
You could say it was re-interpreted from "850 runners starting" to "850 runners finishing" and the numbers speak for themselves - we had 56 more starters than last year and 37 more finishers, and if we didn't have a higher dnf rate we would have exceeded our limit as it was. He effectively had already factored int he last minute DNS.

It was a tough call that we should have let anyone else into the run and run foul of Dept Lands.

2011: 877 starters, 844 finished
2010: 821 starters, 807 finished

Its a low ball effort by the 2 bandits refered to above - NO EXCUSE.

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Will we get the net times

I will chase this up. We normally get them. Although as Colin said they are not the official times and most people went over the mats pretty quickly.

[Louie de Fly]

Hi
One of two things you can do with cramps is get off your fatass and train to the conditions and during a race keep up the fluids
I started in wave 4 there was plenty of water sport drinks,coke, fruit and lollies
I had cramps from pluvi but still run my best time from pluvi to the finish by regulating my running the cause was not training enough I only started in feb due to an ankle injury
there will never be a run faster feel better pill
the vollies are not expected to accommodate wingers sooks or wimps only to provide support in case of injury

spelt sooks wrong thinking of narks
All the best
Lou

Edited by Louie de Fly, 14 March 2011 - 10:37 AM.

[SixFootTrackMarathon]

Separate post on wave outcomes esp W1 vs W2 overlap.

Eight W2 came in under or on the W1 cut off (4:29), the first two had exactly the same previous time (4:31:16) and just missed W1, so a natural improvement to get into W1 next time and the third went from 4:38 to 4:22 but we all know now he is a sandbagger, in fact his splits of 1:28 river and 1:39 (pluvi finish)-13th fastest final split- indicate he could still go much faster.4th W2 was a 4:02 last year who asked for W2, 5th a 3:09 GCM qual (just missed cut), 6th big improver from 4:52, 7th a previous 4:31 and 8th previous 4:33.

First W3 to mix it in earlier waves was a previous 4:20 who asked for W3 and got 4:26 and one has to go back to 64th (4:31) to get someone where we incorrectly gave him a W3 from a hard to convert Canberra Bush Cap 60km.

The W1's who ran over 4:30 obviously either bad days or not in same shape as previous times (one year quals will tighten that) however still some like Sailaway who ran 4:27 last year  and this year 4:5+ was admittedly not in same condition and asked for downgrade too late.

Thanks again to hatless for the wave allocation work.

Based on this I would like to hear the anecdotal evidence of passing slower runners on single trail.

Edited by SixFootTrackMarathon, 14 March 2011 - 10:50 AM.

[Rico]

I see Wave 2 had the highest finish %.  Represent.

Starting in the middle of wave 2 got me down to the bottom of the steps 1 minute faster than the middle of wave 3 last year.

Not much to report on passing on single trail.  I got most of the way to Cox's without a single sighting of a conga line and was going to demand my money back if I didn't get this essential part of the 6ft experience.  But then I hit a monster one for the last 2kms to the river to it was all good.

[Tom31]

Great race and great organisation as ever.  

The only comment I'd make about waves is that there seemed to be a load more in the Early Wave this year than previous years.  Not sure whether that is right or just my perception, but if someone is running sub5 hours I'd have thought that they should be in the usual waves rather than using the early wave for a free run.  This is borne out through hatless's graph which shows that the top 25% of the Early Wave ran faster than the top 25% of Wave 4.