Sydney Marathon: Blue Line Runners
#1
Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:08 AM
Since then we have had a Sydney marathon held in September. Before 2000 a marathon held in Sydney but if my memeory is correct it was not held in some years.
The Canberra Marathon has their 'Griffins' and Melbourne Marathon has their 'Spartons' but Sydney .....
I have for a while considered the Sydney Marathon should have a similar way of recognising those who have run 10 or more marathons since and including the Host City marathon. A name that reflects or incorporates the words BLUE LINE that was laid on the road to show the course might be considered as the name. The blue line can still be seen in parts of Sydney.
If you have run 10 plus or know of any runner who has then could you or they please post or PM. Perhaps the list should start at 8 finishes so the almost there group can be recognised. I did raise this with Wayne Larden the RD last year but noting officially has ocurred. On that basis I thought I would start something on this forum.
I was wondering if a club should be formed etc.
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#2
Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:13 AM
I have done two Sydney marathons so I am not trying to get my number up to the 10 to get in the club.
The last one I did finished in the Olympic warm up track (the one still used as the main athletics track) as the main stadium had been yet to be built.
Frank Bates was the person who was in charge when the Sydney Marathon ran over the Sydney Harbour Bridge in the mid 90's.
The other Sydney marathon I completed finished at the Opera House in the mid 80's, Wang was the sponsor of the Sydney Marathon I think then and the National Championship.
So both those Sydney Marathons had what the current Sydney Marathon has, Harbour crossing & Opera House finish.
What should the 10 year + vets be called?
The winner is SYDNEY
#3
Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:41 AM
#4
Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:41 AM
#5
Posted 11 July 2012 - 11:52 AM
Sydney Marathon number four for me on Sept 16.
#6
Posted 11 July 2012 - 12:14 PM
Kind regards,
AV
#7
Posted 11 July 2012 - 02:28 PM
I still have memories of running the blue line in the Host City Marathon whenever I run across it in Sydney. The night before the event some jokers painted in a deviation into the pub at Kensington, a very tempting idea on a warm Sydney morning.
#8
Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:03 PM
There is a thread here http://www.coolrunni...pic=14020 that discusses the various races from that period.
Hope that helps.
#9
Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:33 PM
The main Marathon in Sydney in the early 80's was the Australian Championship Marathon - it was then called the Wang Australian Marathon held in1983,1984,1985, changed in 1986 to Budget Australian Marathon and 1987 to Australian Marathon. At the same time 1984 to 1988 the Anzac Day Marathon was held, but this was not the main "Sydney" Marathon.
In 1994, 1995 and 1996 the Sydney Marathon was run, next came the Sunday Telegraph Sydney Marathon in 1998. After the Host City Marathon in 2000 was the Flora Sydney Marathon in 2001, 2002 and 2003, Blackmores Sydney Marathon then took over and has been running since.
So The "Sydney" Marathon since the early eighties has had about 8 name changes.
#10
Posted 11 July 2012 - 06:42 PM
I have only run 5 so still 5 to go until I could join the Blue Line Club.
Edited by Horrie, 11 July 2012 - 06:44 PM.
#11
Posted 12 July 2012 - 10:40 AM
Eagle, on 11 July 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:
Good initiative, Eagle.
This list is perhaps 95% accurate. One runner may have run under different names. Two runners may have the same name. 6 have run all. 22 have run 10+. 55 have run 8+. http://ausrunning.net/tmp/sydney.html
It's relatively easy to take the start year back to 1994. Any frequency tally before 1994 would plainly be silly as there were too many different Sydney marathons. Half a dozen each year not including club, vets and womens marathons. More than one was branded as Sydney.
Worth noting that without the Melbourne Spartans, the Melbourne Marathon would have certainly folded in the early 2000s.
Also that there are Melbourne Spartans, Perth Spartans, Adelaide Warriors. Gold Coast, Cities and Pichi Richi have also counted frequency.
Best of luck.
#12
Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:07 PM
I'm on 5 (1996, 2000, 2002, 2008, 2011) - so would perhaps qualify for the light-blue-dotted-line-not-quite-there-yet club.
Something to aim for.
#13
Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:08 PM
Horrie, on 11 July 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:
I have only run 5 so still 5 to go until I could join the Blue Line Club.
Horrie
Thank you for the support and the suggestion. After some thought overnight I think it should commence from the Host City Marathon. I have also taken into account what Rossignol and other have said about the various names etc before then.
I would be delighted if Striders could be approached to help.
Rossignol:
Thank you for the list. I am sure if a Club gets under way it will be the foundation information used.
Edited by Eagle, 12 July 2012 - 02:10 PM.
#14
Posted 12 July 2012 - 08:13 PM
My thoughts were that this system (or something like what has been proposed above) is great and would add incentive to people to come back time and again to earn that coveted number. Flow on effect - numbers remain strong in theory.
#15
Posted 12 July 2012 - 08:52 PM
#16
Posted 12 July 2012 - 10:36 PM
We could have the following to identify yourself as part of the club:
Identifiable singlet.
Designated Permanent Race Number.
Polo shirt or t-shirt.
Does anybody have further ideas? All are welcome.
#17
Posted 13 July 2012 - 05:52 AM
Just what is needed. Some clear thoughts and positive steps. I agree with the club name and maybe the runner being known as a 'Blueliner' like Spartan or Griffin. I agree with the other suggestions. Lets see where Striders take it.
Off topic - I see you are running Melbourne. See you there.
#18
Posted 13 July 2012 - 10:58 AM
Eagle, on 12 July 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:
Supersam1979, on 12 July 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:
This is the approach rather than a club that isn't involved in the race admin.
In fact in my opinion the permanent number at 6Ft (24 finishes) is too hard to achieve, but I only became involved when Max already had over 24. It was almost a default , like "ok we have the buckle (6), belt (12) , jacket (18)...what next?"
For most ultras at least it should be 10- make it a uniform number that can be compared across board, but because of ad hoc race organisation there is no system.
Although it is not something I strive for, I think it is 'nice'.
#20
#21
Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:06 PM
Colin, on 13 July 2012 - 10:58 AM, said:
Eagle, on 12 July 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:
Supersam1979, on 12 July 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:
This is the approach rather than a club that isn't involved in the race admin.
In fact in my opinion the permanent number at 6Ft (24 finishes) is too hard to achieve, but I only became involved when Max already had over 24. It was almost a default , like "ok we have the buckle (6), belt (12) , jacket (18)...what next?"
For most ultras at least it should be 10- make it a uniform number that can be compared across board, but because of ad hoc race organisation there is no system.
Although it is not something I strive for, I think it is 'nice'.
I contacted Wayne over 9 months ago and raised the matter. I was told it would be put on the agenda and he would get back to me. He hasn't been back to me. He is either too busy or it does not have any priority or maybe something else. I decided to raise the matter on CR as I thought it was something that should be done.
I would have been nice to have it done by Wayne but I see no reason why it being done independently is a problem. My understaning is that the 'Griifins' at Canberra is not under the control of the RD but is admisinstered separately.
Edited by Eagle, 13 July 2012 - 02:07 PM.
#22
Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:23 PM
Eagle, on 13 July 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:
Didn't know that. Seems pointless to me if it can't be tied in with a pernmanent number like elsewhere in world.
They say that they listen to the runners' feedback, but seldom are changes like this made when runners ask for it. The water supply issue a few years back and sachets come to mind- they have a stated objection to it despite runners feedback.
Edited by Colin, 13 July 2012 - 04:23 PM.
#23
Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:29 PM
Horrie, on 12 July 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:
Identifiable singlet.
Designated Permanent Race Number.
Polo shirt or t-shirt.
Does anybody have further ideas? All are welcome.
I thought a permanent number was on the list. We don't need to know why it won't work. We need ideas that will get this project off the ground. So please stick to the topic at hand and try not to tell us why it can't be done.
#24
Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:19 PM
#25
Posted 25 July 2012 - 06:01 PM
Eagle, on 11 July 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:
Since then we have had a Sydney marathon held in September. Before 2000 a marathon held in Sydney but if my memeory is correct it was not held in some years.
The Canberra Marathon has their 'Griffins' and Melbourne Marathon has their 'Spartons' but Sydney .....
I have for a while considered the Sydney Marathon should have a similar way of recognising those who have run 10 or more marathons since and including the Host City marathon. A name that reflects or incorporates the words BLUE LINE that was laid on the road to show the course might be considered as the name. The blue line can still be seen in parts of Sydney.
If you have run 10 plus or know of any runner who has then could you or they please post or PM. Perhaps the list should start at 8 finishes so the almost there group can be recognised. I did raise this with Wayne Larden the RD last year but noting officially has ocurred. On that basis I thought I would start something on this forum.
I was wondering if a club should be formed etc.
Hi Eagle and others,
Actually one of our staff members you are probably familiar with, Jenny Barker (former Event Director of City to Surf) is very passionate and vocal about this. She has done some research on who has run in every marathon and 10 years. However some of our data is not complete from prior to when my company, Pont3, took over in 2005. So we are a bit worried about having unreliable stats.
What I would ask though is if you have done all marathons since and including 2001 (because 2000 wasn't really this event, it was the test event and the current Sydney Marathon began in 2001), and / or 10 marathons, can you please email Jenny@pontn3.com providing your particulars so we can compile a list because we do actually want to recognise you guys!
I look forward to your information.
Cheers
Wayne
Eagle, on 11 July 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:
Since then we have had a Sydney marathon held in September. Before 2000 a marathon held in Sydney but if my memeory is correct it was not held in some years.
The Canberra Marathon has their 'Griffins' and Melbourne Marathon has their 'Spartons' but Sydney .....
I have for a while considered the Sydney Marathon should have a similar way of recognising those who have run 10 or more marathons since and including the Host City marathon. A name that reflects or incorporates the words BLUE LINE that was laid on the road to show the course might be considered as the name. The blue line can still be seen in parts of Sydney.
If you have run 10 plus or know of any runner who has then could you or they please post or PM. Perhaps the list should start at 8 finishes so the almost there group can be recognised. I did raise this with Wayne Larden the RD last year but noting officially has ocurred. On that basis I thought I would start something on this forum.
I was wondering if a club should be formed etc.
Funny enough, the name Jenny came up with was "Blue Line Legends"!
Cheers
Wayne
thomo, on 11 July 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:
I have done two Sydney marathons so I am not trying to get my number up to the 10 to get in the club.
The last one I did finished in the Olympic warm up track (the one still used as the main athletics track) as the main stadium had been yet to be built.
Frank Bates was the person who was in charge when the Sydney Marathon ran over the Sydney Harbour Bridge in the mid 90's.
The other Sydney marathon I completed finished at the Opera House in the mid 80's, Wang was the sponsor of the Sydney Marathon I think then and the National Championship.
So both those Sydney Marathons had what the current Sydney Marathon has, Harbour crossing & Opera House finish.
What should the 10 year + vets be called?
The winner is SYDNEY
Hi there
Not sure about this because dont have access to any of these records. And if we took this approach where do we draw the line because there have been many different marathons called Sydney Marathon or with that in the name over many different courses run by different people.
The current Blackmores Sydney Marathon started in 2001 as a legacy of the Olympic Games so we will only recognise finishers in one of these events. Sorry.
Cheers
Wayne
Barefoot, on 11 July 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:
The main Marathon in Sydney in the early 80's was the Australian Championship Marathon - it was then called the Wang Australian Marathon held in1983,1984,1985, changed in 1986 to Budget Australian Marathon and 1987 to Australian Marathon. At the same time 1984 to 1988 the Anzac Day Marathon was held, but this was not the main "Sydney" Marathon.
In 1994, 1995 and 1996 the Sydney Marathon was run, next came the Sunday Telegraph Sydney Marathon in 1998. After the Host City Marathon in 2000 was the Flora Sydney Marathon in 2001, 2002 and 2003, Blackmores Sydney Marathon then took over and has been running since.
So The "Sydney" Marathon since the early eighties has had about 8 name changes.
Hi there, correct, this event has had two different naming rights sponsors, but it is the same event.
Cheers
W
Eagle, on 12 July 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:
Horrie, on 11 July 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:
I have only run 5 so still 5 to go until I could join the Blue Line Club.
Horrie
Thank you for the support and the suggestion. After some thought overnight I think it should commence from the Host City Marathon. I have also taken into account what Rossignol and other have said about the various names etc before then.
I would be delighted if Striders could be approached to help.
Rossignol:
Thank you for the list. I am sure if a Club gets under way it will be the foundation information used.
Hi guys
I can only really vouch for this event, which is from 2001.
I would really like to support, promote and recognise this achievement but I can only do so from 2001 (this event).
Thanks
Wayne
#26
Posted 25 July 2012 - 06:08 PM
Horrie, on 12 July 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:
We could have the following to identify yourself as part of the club:
Identifiable singlet.
Designated Permanent Race Number.
Polo shirt or t-shirt.
Does anybody have further ideas? All are welcome.
Hi
I like a couple of these like dedicated permanent number, maybe with a special laurel wreath or something, singlet maybe that would be good. Keep coming with the ideas guys / girls.
Thanks
Wayne
Eagle, on 13 July 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:
Eagle - I don't even recall your email or call, maybe it was too late, I don't know - sorry! But I'm keen to get this goinng. If you don't want me involved and you guys recognise yourselves that's fine. However, I'm here, open to feedback (as you all know) and supportive of this concept. If you want my support and input just email me your collective ideas and I'll get something up and running.
Wayne
#27
Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:01 PM
#28
Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:27 PM
Horrie, on 25 July 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:
Hi Horrie, send me an email so I can reply with the list of who we have records for, maybe you (or us both? I'm easy) can then add to that list from CR members and their friends. Then we can get it started. For this year, it's too late for special bibs, but we can probably do a number range (if it isn't already taken). The problem with allocating a permanent number is that they are divided by the start groups, which may not suit everyone - but let me think about that some more.
First things first, lets get the names and number of runs since 2001 (including).
By the way, I love Striders... awesome club who do a fantastic job within the running / fitness community. Happy for their involvement where appropriate.
My email is - wayne@pont3.com
Cheers
Wayne
#29
Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:43 PM
#30
Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:48 PM
Horrie, on 25 July 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:
Got it. I'll check it out. Thanks for that feedback, it does mean a lot to me because I work hard to listen and engage in dialogue with the running community! It's not all about taking your money which seems to be the sole objective of some other event organisations....not my style!
Cheers
Wayne
#31
Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:30 AM
Horrie, on 25 July 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:
Hi Horrie
I did take a look at that list, great site isn't it. Very comprehensive. From the list you sent me the following have hit key milestones;
Participated in all 11 Events;
Bob Fickel
Eric Schmierer
Grant Deitch
John Wilcocks
Jo Tebbutt
Paul Carmody
Ray James
Rick Patzold
Rod Saville.
The following have done 10 marathons;
David Vlotman
Dusan Hora
Graham Wye
Jim Bennington
John Waddell.
And there are a lot more who have done 9 so if they finish this year will join a very exclusive squad!
Cheers
Wayne
#32
Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:14 PM
#34
Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:24 PM
#35
Posted 26 July 2012 - 04:31 PM
#36
Posted 03 August 2012 - 05:47 PM
Just to let you know, I havent forgotten about this. Our trusted Ops Guru, Jenny Barker is just recovering from a shoulder reconstruction as a result of setting up the Men's Health Urbanathlon site and falling over (I can say, that she damaged her shoulder at 5am on event day and was till going at 7.30pm same day - without treatment. And after tearing off 2 ligaments. Now that's hard core). She will be back on deck next week when I will get together with her on this initiative to download all of your thoughts. She will then look into the practicality of what we can do this year and we'll then report back to you all on what we feel is the best course of action for this year.
But rest assured this will be implemented this year.
If there are any other thoughts for this from you guys, please post them here so I can get Jenn across all of the options.
Many thanks
Wayne
#37
Posted 04 August 2012 - 05:51 AM
Wayne Larden, on 03 August 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:
Just to let you know, I havent forgotten about this. Our trusted Ops Guru, Jenny Barker is just recovering from a shoulder reconstruction as a result of setting up the Men's Health Urbanathlon site and falling over (I can say, that she damaged her shoulder at 5am on event day and was till going at 7.30pm same day - without treatment. And after tearing off 2 ligaments. Now that's hard core). She will be back on deck next week when I will get together with her on this initiative to download all of your thoughts. She will then look into the practicality of what we can do this year and we'll then report back to you all on what we feel is the best course of action for this year.
But rest assured this will be implemented this year.
If there are any other thoughts for this from you guys, please post them here so I can get Jenn across all of the options.
Many thanks
Wayne
Wayne, just wanted to add, that as a newbie I find this idea very exciting. I have a long way to go until I reach that magic 10, but this idea has me excited, and determined to run the event every year now.
#38
Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:40 PM
How about a T-Shirt for Blue line runners when they complete 10 (a group which will grow each year), and free entry for "Immortals" (which will decrease over time)?
#39
Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:58 PM
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if you are immortal, you won't die, so the numbers would only drop off due to lack of interest ;-)
#40
Posted 09 August 2012 - 01:44 PM
Well I am pleased to announce that we will be doing the following to launch the Blue Line Legends (those who have completed all marathons) in 2012. For this year and to launch we will only recognise those Legends who have done all Sydney Marathons since (and including) 2001. All those who have currently, or will have next year, completed 10 years will be recognised formally in 2013.
1. Dedicated Chest Bib - you will be honoured by having a permanent race number in the Blackmores Sydney Marathon. The range will start at 101 and will be in preferred start group. You can choose to start in A, B, C or preferred depending on your current fitness level. Your chest bib will be specially designed to recognise your Blue Line Legend status - so you can run proudly in your legend kit!
2. Blue Line Legend race singlet - Pont3 will be presenting you with a special Blue Line Legend asics performance singlet to race in. This presentation will be done at the Asics Event Registration Centre at a day to be notified
3. Blue Line Legend recognition - we will be dedicating a section on the event website recognising the Blue Line Legends and those who have completed 10 years, and those approaching.
The following are the people who we have information on that have completed all marathons, we are hoping that if you know anyone else you can put them in touch with us;
Bob Fickel
Eric Schmierer
Grant Deitch
John Wilcocks
Jo Tebbutt
Paul Carmody
Ray James
Rick Patzold
Rod Saville.
Graeme Wye
We will be sending you all an email next week to ascertain singlet sizes so we can get the your gear printed to fit.
If you have any questions please email me at wayne@pont3.com
Many thanks
Wayne
Edited by buzzlightyear, 17 August 2012 - 06:28 PM.
Added Graeme Wye into list
#41
Posted 09 August 2012 - 02:12 PM
Thanks
Wayne
#42
Posted 09 August 2012 - 02:56 PM
Well done Wayne.
#43
Posted 09 August 2012 - 04:22 PM
Great news and thank you for your prompt action after the issue was raised. It is a great addition to the Sydney Runnig Festival and for the marthon in particular. In time and as the numbers in the Club increase and the general awarness increases I am sure it will create significant interest.
A fantastic addition to a wonderful running festival.
From me, a thank you. Not for me personally but on behalf of the runners for additioning this apect to the event.
Edited by Eagle, 09 August 2012 - 04:23 PM.
#44
Posted 09 August 2012 - 07:35 PM
#45
Posted 10 August 2012 - 11:49 AM
#46
Posted 13 August 2012 - 06:24 PM
Many Thanks
Wayne
#47
Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:44 AM
http://www.sydneyrun...ue-line-legends
Great to see some of our legends recognised. Great work Wayne.
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:20 PM
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