Australian Running Guide
Posted 06 September 2002 - 09:39 AM
The "Australian Running Guide" Project, is currently an idea that goes like this... Lots of people travel to Australia for holidays. Lots of people in Australia go on holiday, or move from place to place. Lots of people start running from scratch and don't know where to start.
Many of the questions on this message board are of the flavour : where are the tracks in Sydney .. where are the best places to buy shoes .. best places to run .. best races etc.
The "Australian Running Guide" is like a never-ending project that will pick various towns and cities and will cover this basic information. Runners can add to it (hey you missed the xyz running shop/ track etc). I imagine that a big component of it would be the best places to run section, where runners would contribute articles on their favourite runs, maybe include photos, maps, where to get water on the run etc.
The beauty of it is that the info is contributed by runners who live there, or maybe go on holiday (every time I go away I have to scout out the best sites from scratch). Also as it is a website, we are not restricted to quanitity of data, and of course can link to maps/info etc that already exist elsewhere.
I had planned to start with Sydney and encourage others to do the same for their hometown, or holiday location. (Obviously big places like Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane etc) will grow over time. There is no reason why it can't get down to the level of smaller places .. like Noosa, Bateman's Bay, Albury etc.
How about I draft a template and start filling in the dat for Sydney and then have a call for volunteers to help out with other places ? For the time being I would probably have a nominated volunteer for each place to coordinate the data. CoolRunning will provide each volunteer with an account so that they can post their own data duirectly to the CoolRunning site. We have ooodles of disk space available so that we are not under any restrictions.
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Posted 06 September 2002 - 01:24 PM
toilets, safety, running clubs to link up with, local sports injury people etc. You should look for federal or state funding or at least their help in putting this project together as most maps are produced by these
organisations anyway. Good Luck.
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Posted 09 September 2002 - 08:06 AM
I'll happily contribute to Melbourne info. Maps, routes, that sort of thing.
Posted 09 September 2002 - 08:38 AM
(Hmm, and as I write this I can see a large, ugly snow cloud covering my favorite running spot, Mt Wellington. Snow down to 500m!!when was the first day of spring agin ?)
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Posted 28 October 2003 - 12:35 AM
Hi, just noted your post and address. Daveb is Brisbane based - he says he'll come up for a run one day. Given I'm just down the road I thought I drop you a line.
I'm actually at Mt Coolum and train between here and Coolum/Perigean and down to Mooloolaba for a long run.
If you are interested in a getting together for a long run, about 2 hours at the moment, on the weekends please drop me a line.
All the best,
Posted 28 October 2003 - 01:43 AM
Race details is good TGM - I suggest having a link to the official site for details but certainly a CR rating from regulars.
Will be an excellent resource:
- local runs (UBD would be good here)
- race details
- good shops
- quality medicos for sports injuries
In my Melb Marathon showbag there was a magazine for Distance Runners - had dozens of international AIMS marathons - must be big business. I'm sure this site would be a big hitter too.
Posted 28 October 2003 - 02:18 AM
As a regular holiday traveller I, for one, will be looking for info from it. Agree with the amount of info that can be added into each area, water spots, races, toilets etc.
Already booked to go to Launceston next year so will be after running areas around there.
Whale Boy - will be in touch at some stage as once again we head to Qld in July for the GC marathon or half and then onto Noosa and Mooloolaba
Ian C :)
Posted 07 October 2004 - 08:00 AM
I think its really neat, and has a lot of potential, but we are a bit light on for content at the moment - we are looking for people to help flesh it out a bit more.
www . australianrunningguide . com . au
Obviously keen to get as much feedback as possible...
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Posted 07 October 2004 - 04:21 PM
You described a probable arrangement being for a nominated volunteer to coordinate the data with each local area, does that mean that all postings flow through the volunteer? If so, how? Or would the volunteer do his/her control/editing after posts are made?
I have real limitations in knowledge of computer proceedures, syntax, etc.,but if it is within my low level of capability, I'd be happy to help in regard to Townsville.
Posted 07 October 2004 - 05:34 PM
there is no central authority to go thru to approve changes.
i am hoping that people "adopt" their hometown and write about the runs etc. no need to worry about formatting or headlines or even links - JUST STICK THE CONTENT ON THE SITE - as other more geekier people (!) will come along and fix it up and put in links etc.
if you think you have screwed up, just leave a note to that effect as ALL PREVIOUS EDITS can be retrieved. Its like training wheels AND a safety net.
Try it out!
it looks a bit light on for content now, but imagine how neat it will be in a few years time!
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Any chance of sticking in a section on "International Runs"? I travel a lot and consequently always on the lookout for places to run while overseas (especially Europe). I would be more than happy to add my experiences for some of the major cities I have run in overseas.
Posted 07 October 2004 - 08:07 PM
Originally posted by adw:
I'm a bit confused with the formatting though. It's not html is it?
It's not html, it's wiki. It is meant to be easy for anyone to add content. Like KevinT said - just put content up there and let geeks format it.
there is a link to a guide on how to do the formatting on the side near the edit button.
Posted 07 October 2004 - 09:42 PM
I did put the link on the right hand side of the runningguide pages to run the planet who do a reasonable job for worldwide runs. i have been in contact with them since 1996 (!!) and they are decent people, so would encourage you to go there.
adw - the small downside is that the formatting is not html, but a wiki format. however if you see a page with say a link on, hit edit page and investigate how its done - its pretty simple.
the upside is anyone can edit any page.
i encourage the spellcheckers and grammar nazis to go forth and fix up !
Posted 08 October 2004 - 03:33 PM
I've made some of your info more up to date and will continue to add.
Keep up the good work.
Posted 08 October 2004 - 04:36 PM
Originally posted by SoLucky:
Lady Jove, Wow! You were quick off the mark and put up a good base for the Townsville page. Looks like you've lived here in the past(?) and must have enjoyed your time in the Tropics.
I've made some of your info more up to date and will continue to add.
Keep up the good work.
wow how cool is that - i didn't know there was cold water bubbler on castle hill! yeah i used to live in Townsville. That content i put up was something i already had jotted down in my note book so wasn't much effort.
Fantastic idea. You can even learn more about an area you are already familiar with - who knows - there might be a really cool place to run nearby that you might not have considered before.
great for planning runs while away from your usual 'hood'... fantastic fantastic fantastic.... :D
Posted 09 October 2004 - 04:10 PM
It might generate more activity and locality information. Stoke it up, all that information is out there in people's heads, this would be a good way to share it with other runners.
Posted 09 October 2004 - 11:19 PM
However, I wanted a limited release this week or so, just to confirm that people can access, can update etc.
I have some ideas to promote far & wide as I reckon it is just a great idea. But am keen to get feedback and fix any obvious issues.
Posted 12 October 2004 - 04:03 PM
Outstanding idea. I love it. I will be onto everyone I know to fill in as many gaps as possible.
One problem that I might envisage is for people like myself who tend to make accidental mistakes. I was just trying to add a race in Canberra and wiped all of the information for Canberra by mistake. Lucky I hit undo and it came back. However it might be good to have some method of backing things up so that they cannot be deleted, by accident or on purpose. You have probably thought of this already, but just thought I would point it out.
I really like this idea and great that you have had the time to formulate a way of making it happen.
Posted 12 October 2004 - 04:08 PM
I know a large number of people that would pay $200-$400 a year for this type of advertising for the local area page. If you have 60 local areas in NSW alone, that is some good potential income for the site??
Posted 12 October 2004 - 05:08 PM
The ads-per-local area. yes a definite possibility. That's why I have called it a "beta release" as the software is not that sophisticated yet, or rather my use of it is simplified. Maybe done the line.
I am definitely keen for the canberra dudes to start filling it up!
Posted 14 October 2004 - 04:35 AM
Yes this is an excellent project.
One question though is it right for a shop or doctor etc not at all in your region to list themselves on your regions page? Myself I don't see the logic if they are not actually in your region (apart from free advertising for them)? That's unless of course Brisbane's The Run Inn or Dr Foote are actually planning to open a shop/practice here in Toowoomba?
Posted 14 October 2004 - 03:28 PM
Whoops - in the early days we put in places and used a template that was based on Brisbane - looks like Toowoomba was one of them. That's my mistake, I will remove them now.
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Posted 27 October 2004 - 07:05 PM
I have included a couple of my favorite runs within the Melbourne & Victorian section and I'm sadden to see that no-one has included some info about the Warburton Trail or the Dandenong area (ie. Ferny Creek), I have only run the Dandenongs a handful of times, so I do not feel appropriately qualified to post. Therefore I challenge someone from the othe side of the city to include some info about their fav runs. Go on, you know you want to, ten minutes top........