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#1 Firstimer17

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 07:54 AM

First marathon coming up on June long weekend. 10 weeks to go and training has been difficult in all this rain! Tracking ok though for a 4-41/2 hour race.

Any advice for a 43yo female first timer (have run 2 x half a few years back). Has anyone run this track before (formerly Macleay River Marathon, also called Trial Bay marathon/running festival)

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 09:16 AM

I am not sure what advice you want for a first time.

The course has not changed since I started running the event in 2001. This will be my 13th. A classic out an back course with the repeating itself on the return to the start/finish. Essentially flat all the way with the river on the right on the way out and left on the way back.

A few minor rises in South West Rocks BUT after short sharp hill out of the start area there a long down hill in the first k or so and off course that hill to run at the end. About 800m in length and quite a battle on the way back and off course not notices at the start.

My son and his partner will be running their first marathon and we expect about 6 hours.

Best wishes for the day.

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 10:22 AM

^ is SWR considered a 'fast' course?

I have a friend heading up for this and she wasn't sure what to expect.

Cheers.

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 11:39 AM

I would call it fast. I bit like Gold Coast. A flat course that requires you to get into a good rhythm and just maintain it when the course has little variation for a change in that rhythm. Sadly my days of running with rhythm are gone it is not a shuffle. This marathon has a very good memory as I did run one of my 3 sub 3's there.

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 03:13 PM

I ran my marathon PB here, but I had practised on the course as I was living in SWR for 6 weeks earlier in the year, plus drove the course every day. I am  slow runner but I am very happy to report that I beat my PB at that time by 20 minutes. 4.35 for me

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 06:14 PM

View Postriffraff, on 30 March 2017 - 10:22 AM, said:

^ is SWR considered a 'fast' course?

I have a friend heading up for this and she wasn't sure what to expect.

Cheers.

I'd say it's one of the quicker courses around (provided wind isn't an issue). I had been targeting this year's event for a tilt at 2:40-ish. Eagle's description is spot on.

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 06:25 PM

Yep a fast course - evidenced by my comparisons with other marathon events that I ran during that same year of 2010

South West Rocks 3:16.23
Traralgon ............. 3:17.00
Gold Coast ........... 3:20.37
Townsville ............ 3:22.19
Sydney ................. 3:25.18
City 2 Surf Perth ... 3:26.05
Canberra .............. 3:28.17
Westlink M7 Cities .3:31.00
Penrith Lap the Lake 3:33.02
Mudgee .................... 3:35.39
Portland .................... 3:38.10
Hunter Valley ........... 3:39.15
Wagga Wagga .......... 3:48.40
ACT Bush Capital ..... 3:48.44
Fitzroy Falls .............. 4:03.56
Glenbrook ................ 4:43.26

Edited by DESTINATION_43, 30 March 2017 - 08:01 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2017 - 10:47 AM

This is the next one for me. Weather is warm - dam hot at the start compared to Traralgon on Sunday at 3 degrees with the max only about 15.

Rain might be an issue.

Sun 11 Jun Forecast Icon Posted Image Min 16 °C Max 22 °C Precis Possible rainfall: 0 to 6 mm Chance of any rain: 60% Posted Image

Edited by Eagle, 05 June 2017 - 10:48 AM.


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Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:37 AM

Did this run in 2006 and found it lonely and mind numbing.

The first few kms and the last few have a good feel but the middle 35 kms lack atmosphere.

Still, the dip in the Pacific was nice at the end.

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:49 AM

Bushpig

I agree the out and back after leaving town is lonely but I enjoy the solitude and the peace of that section. Flat, next to the river and quiet - a wonderful opportunity to get into a rhythm and enjoy the simplicity of running.

Each to their own.

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 10:20 AM

You're right Eagle - I was probably being a little negative.

I suspect you have acquired more experience at handling the solitude during those fair few runs over the years.

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 11:02 AM

I like to run alone and prefer not to run and chat. That is just the way I like to run. Others I know prefer to run in a group and chat most of the time. I sometimes appear unsociable when I do not participate and remove myself from such a group or even from another runner. I like to take the time to reflect and in particular remove myself for the run from the pressures of the world.

So a course like this suits me. As I said it does not suit others. That's life we are all different.

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 12:16 AM

As you well know Eagle, I like the solitude too but somehow people just start chatting to me > and then I can't stop for a while! :Tounge:

In all seriousness though, I also love the rhythm out in no mans land as a solo runner where you get a good feel on how fast your second half will be.

The final climb is always a fun challenge where you try and pick one or two runners off, knowing you've got a speedy 400m downhill slope to the finish.

This will be my 10th finish at SWR and along with next months 10th finish at Hunter Valley will bring my +10 venues to six.

Sydney ...................... 16
Canberra ................... 16
Wagga Wagga .......... 15
Fitzroy Falls ............... 12
South West Rocks .... *10
Hunter Valley ............ *10

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:17 AM

Sorry D43 but snap
  • Canberra 18
  • Gold Coast 17
  • Sydney 17
  • Melbourne 14
  • Cities/M7 11
  • Kemsey/South West Rocks 12
  • Mudgee 12
  • Fitzroy Falls 11
  • Brisbane 10
That makes 125 marathons out of 254. The 125 marathons have been run at just 9 events. Sad in a way that so many run in just a few events. But some are small country marathons that I love to support and it seems year after year. I will be continuing to support then all this year except of course Fitzroy Falls that is no longer held.

Edited by Eagle, 08 June 2017 - 10:18 AM.


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:45 AM

Very nice Eagle > more encouragement for me to lift my game! :Cry:

I think Gold Coast will be '9' this year and places like ACT Bush Capital are building up so I'll have to start working on them! :Tounge:  (CU Sunday)

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:13 AM

D43
Yes looking forward to seeing you Sunday. Sad that at the moment I am not quick enough to have looking over your shoulder from 25k to the finish. Maybe that might happen again ..... maybe.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:02 PM

Eagle, D43, what did your Garmin say?

Friend of mine only got 39.6k on her watch.

Yes, heard there was a last minute change of course but......

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:50 PM

Yes there was a very last minute change to the course. The out and back was a few steps short of 10k. I ran some extra at the turn around  to make the 42.2. If that was not done. It would have been short.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:51 PM

I saw the times for the half which looked fast, I wondered if it was short too.
I did the 10km my first south west rocks race for three years.

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Posted 02 June 2019 - 06:34 AM

BUMP for 2019

Not any activity for almost 2 years when in the past it was very active with a large group of CR's travelling from both Sydney and Brisbane. As they say the only certainty in life is constant change. I have fond memories if this event asI ran one of my sub 3's here. I missed it a few occasions when work sent me overseas on this weekend. That does not happen now.

Unfortunately they have significantly changed the course that was a fast out and back along the river. It is now a multiple loop course that changed the whole feel of the race but in any event I will be running it for the 14th time next Sunday.