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[Gasher]

Replaced my Brooks Beasts with a newer pair of the same about 6 weeks ago.The old pair had about 1200kms on them & I had no problems with them whatsoever.

I now find that I have some pain 12 - 24 hours after running, just below the knees where the fibula meets the tibia on both legs. Whilst this development is yet to interfere with my training I think it is wise to recify things before they get worse.

Has anyone else experienced problems with new shoes of same brand & model where none existed before?

At this point I'm only assuming this to be the problem because the shoes are the only thing I have changed with my running. In the mean time I think I might revert to using the old shoes & see if the problem rectifies itself.

Any comments/advice would be appreciated.

Thanks
Gasher

[MarkO]

Gasher,

Are they exactly the same?

I used to always run in Asics 2000 series shoes (2020, 2030, 2040 et al) - most where fine but at some point (I think it was 2080) they changed the way they made the shoe and added extra support somewhere and the next pair killed my feet - 15km into a long run I would have cronic pins and needles, the old shoes were fine. I haven't used the 2000 series shoes since.

Hope it helps
MarkO

[Gasher]

Hi MarkO

Well they look the same.

All the design, stitch work & tread pattern/sole is identical. Looks like they changed the colours slightly to give the appearance of a later model.

As for the construction I don't know.... I hear Brooks start with 2 standard house bricks in making each pair of Beasts & then try to make them a little lighter ;)

Good to hear your problem solved itself by changing shoes/model...going to do that myself.

Gasher

[James M]

Gasher
I had been running Beasts for a number of years, however Brooks changed their model some time last year and I started having all sorts of foot problems with the new model (PF). Have since changed to Asic Koji's that have a different support structure and when my knees etc eventually settled down the PF seemed to subside.
However the new model looks somewhat different to previous.
Jim

[Rooster]

Hi Gasher,

Nothing more annoying than manufacturers making changes to a great shoe. I had a similar problem a couple of years ago. I purchased a new pair of Asics Keyano's and did not stop blistering for a couple of months. Even while wearing them I did not feel the comfort from the previous pair. In protest I changed to Mizuno Wave Legend and was really impressed. I then waited for the new model of Keyano and purchased them. Asics seem to have got the construction of the new model perfect. Lets just hope they do not make do many changes for the next model. Good luck.

[Steve 'The Footman']

Shoe companies make changes to their shoes all the time while maintaining the same name. This means a shoe that used to fit/work well can be a problem when you buy it again. However if all the stitching was the same than this is not likely to be the case. They do colour changes mid year but design changes at the beginning of each year only. What 'might' have changed is the old shoe may have worn out on the outside heel and created a wedge. This wedge would over time have become greater and stretched the hamstring muscle that attaches to the head of the fibula (Biceps Femoris). When you went to the new shoes the wedge was eliminated and the new position would have been a shortened muscle. Muscles that are shortened excessively can spasm which will become irritated at their insertion. You need to give it time to adjust and treat the symptoms with ice and anti-inflammatory gel. Hamstring massage could also help. Also make sure that you replace the shoes before they wear through to the midsole.

[Gasher]

Thank for the replies

Steve I spoke to my podiatrist today & his thoughts were very similar to yours. He feels that by staying in the old shoes too long that I got used to their failing dynamics & that on wearing a new pair, that are actually correct for me, I'm suffering from a readjustment of sorts.

The soreness I originally experienced is slowly going away so that's always a good sign :)

A lesson learnt that some of us with gammy feet shouldn't run too far before renewing shoes.

G4