Posted 17 July 2002 - 09:00 AM
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Posted 17 July 2002 - 01:53 PM
I also used to get blisters with Kayano's. The VII was fine but the VIII was terrible. I bought these at Athlete's Foot.
I then went to the Runners Shop in Randwick. I was told that the Kayano's gave far too much support for mild pronators and that I should try the Gel 1070's - half the price of Kayano. Have done this and no problems (apart from the tongue coming out which was fixed by a new pair without any hassles).
The moral of the story to me is to forget about Rebel/Athletes foot etc. These guys are more interested in selling expensive but inappropriate shooes than getting shoes to fit feet and meet equirements.
Find a good shop specifically for runners.
Posted 17 July 2002 - 02:08 PM
Sauconys are excellent fitting and often
overlooked running shoes.
I recommend them with double insoles
for Mararathons, they still fit well and are stable.
After ten Mararathons in Sauconys I'm reluctant to use my ASICS.
I think with some ASICS you may have to buy them 1/2 a size bigger which should not
be the case. Kayanos are also an excellent shoe, if the fit is right, but quite dear (compared with ASICS 2070s & the like.)
Posted 17 July 2002 - 02:36 PM
Posted 17 July 2002 - 02:50 PM
Any advice on helping blisters heal and taping techniques to stop re-occurrence? This is my first major blister that has actually stopped me running.
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Posted 17 July 2002 - 03:59 PM
I like Ascis and feel confident when I recommend them to friends, but I'll always push people towards the 2070's. I think the Kayano's a little flashy and a lot expensive. I now run in Saucony and Muzuno and have had very few problems.
Posted 19 July 2002 - 12:01 AM
I haven't bought them yet, but should I consider another brand if everyone seems to have trouble with Kayanos?? My biggest problem is that I roll in A LOT. Also I don't plan to be doing long runs..up to 10km will probably be longest...
Thanks for any advice...
Posted 18 July 2002 - 01:42 PM
Posted 18 July 2002 - 04:42 PM
I thought nothing of it until reading all your comments. Maybe I should be daring and try a different and cheaper brand.
Posted 18 July 2002 - 07:17 PM
Posted 18 July 2002 - 07:18 PM
As Mark said, put some flats on after some long k's in the Beasts and you're flying.
Posted 19 July 2002 - 09:02 AM
I have been running 4 years, including 9 marathons in the last 2 1/4 years, and I have NEVER had a blackened or lost toenail, and I have only had blisters very rarely. I have run in a number of shoes from New Balance, Brooks, and now Asics. I attribute my lack of foot problems to always buying a shoe with plenty of toe room, but not loose enough to allow heel movement. I agree with previous comments that you should buy running shoes in a larger size than your normal walking shoes. I always buy from the Runner's Shop in Canberra, and benefit from their specific knowledge of running requirements.
Posted 20 July 2002 - 12:40 AM
An easy solution is to use methylated spirits. Just put a bit on a pad of tissues and then hold against the blister. This will help dry the blisters up.
However if you are unfortunate enough to have a blister that has lost its top then just get some Quick-heal bandaids. They do the trick.
Hope this helps.
Posted 20 July 2002 - 01:29 PM
I bought a pair of Kayano's this year for the first time, and ran the gold coast marathon in them. No blisters, loss of toenails, gangrene, etc.
However, they did not feel significantly better than 2070's, so I don't plan on buying any more Kayano's. In fact, didn't feel as good as 2070's, in the opinion of my feet.
No-one should pay $249 for Kayano's - shop around and you will find them for less if you have the urge to buy them.
Athlete's Foot had them for $199 during half yearly sale.
Posted 20 July 2002 - 03:08 PM
I over pronate, and use prescribed orthotics - very much well worth the $400 investment - have had 5 years out of them so far, and still going strong.
This reduces the need to have to most expensive shoe on the market.
That said, I use Asics MC Plus for motion control, but the last lot have just crept over $200 ($180 is my limit), and don't seem to offer the stability of the previous.
So I'm probably going to go back to the 2070's.
By the way, try www.justasics.com.au - I haven't used them, but the shoes are cheap.
I think over pronators are tougher on their shoes (you should see how my old ones lean over, and the wear on the sole), so don't go too light or cheap - a good mid-range shoe.
I have not had a single blister since I started using petroleum jelly on my toes - even in 2 Melb marathons.
Keep on running
Posted 20 July 2002 - 07:20 PM
If you don't do 40+ k's per week, try Puma.
I would like Asics to have a wider fit on Kayanos and Nimbus - I think we Aussies have fat feet.
Posted 22 July 2002 - 02:34 PM
I always ran in puma's with alittle help of padding from the podiatrist & never had a problem ever!!! I now have a $250 pair of shoes I don't wear & my husband is furious as I don't think we can take these back, there a little dirty from wearing them in the beginning to see if they would come good, I live in the country so alot of dirt roads. BOY THIS TOPIC SHOULD BE SENT TO ASIC, ATHLETES FOOT, ETC.... NIK!!
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Posted 23 July 2002 - 08:44 PM
Having ripped the kayano off completly i will say some find it does suit there foot better, however as a customer don't spend anymore than you really have too, know shops that stock the kayano will sell it first because there's more profit for them & asics then selling a 2070 or 1070.
Posted 24 July 2002 - 01:11 PM
I've run in about the last 6 models and have always been extremely happy with them. I need to note though, that I always use custom orthotics, being an overpronator. Also, I have a fairly narrow foot, which the Kayano provides a very good fit for.
Posted 24 July 2002 - 01:50 PM
Posted 24 July 2002 - 02:17 PM
In the interim, I used the 1050. which solved the blister problem but didn't have forefoot cushioning. To correct Chris' comment - the 1070 now does have forefoot cushioning, and if you don't need the support of the 2070 or the Kayano, it's a great (and much cheaper) option - it's working for me anyway.
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As for the issue of correct fit, the best we can hope for is for Asics to withdraw from selling via Athletes Foot!
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Posted 11 August 2002 - 08:33 PM
Something to keep in mind however... the Asics Kayano is a shoe designed for longer distances of running. The cushioning is therefore FIRMER than the 2070 which CAN cause problems such as those discussed.
Also discussed - a softer cushioned innersole can help, as can a change of socks - I recommend any brand containing the 'Coolmax' material.
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Posted 16 August 2002 - 08:25 PM
It's really sad to think that you can't go into a shop anymore and get the correct advise on shoes.
I use to work for a major sports shoe store which im not going to mention but i am so happy with everything that i learnt whilst working there...
One major thing i need to disclose though was if your not happy with your fit return it and get another shoe....
**Also a comment i need to make is that the Kayano is not a shoe for people who pronate.
it is a shoe for a fairly normal foot.
***And heres a bit of inside info for you
Is that if you ever open a kayano up it doesn't actually contain "GEL".. more like foam and soft rubber !!!! the size of a 1/4 of a $5 dollar note...
Brooks Trance for that matter has hydroflow which is like a gel but thinner and you can
even remove your inner sole and see right through the other side so you know what your paying for...
Brooks Trance is compared with the Kayano so maybe you could go try it on very comfortable shoe..
Wide toe box so No Blisters... :)
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Cheers and thanks,
Posted 21 November 2002 - 07:43 AM
Been awhile since someone has put something in here. My saga with the Kayano's ended about 2 months ago when I bought some generic inserts from my local A-Mart. I havent had any problems since then. I have looked through my address book etc and I cant find the phone number or email for ASICS Australia but I got the number through my local running store and I am sure that you could do the same. From all that I have read and heard from people it is the inserts that are the problem. When I need a new pair of shoes I certainly wont be buying the Kayano's. Good luck.
Posted 21 November 2002 - 07:52 AM
Posted 21 November 2002 - 08:52 AM
Mark yer email Attn Stuart and send it to email@example.com. I know it looks like a general email address, but he personally gave it to me so its a good one.
I have been visiting podiatrists and throwing money at shoes for a while now, and have tried both the kayanos VIII and the new trance. They are both crap for my needs. Your best hope would be i reckon, if Stewy gives you some new replacement kayanos, would be to trade them at athletes foot for something else.
Brooks vapor bends in all the right places for me (so did trance 2 models ago - new ones too soft), and only costs $115 at rebel sports this week apparently. It feels great to have sorted out my shoe problem for $115 after the money I have spent in the past.
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Posted 22 November 2002 - 07:55 AM
The Trance of old you mentioned, the Adrenaline and Vapor are 3 very different shoes, different ammounts of stability, cushioning, durability and fit. To say what is good for one wont necessarily be good for another. Unfortunately it can be expensive experimentation thats why seeking advice from many different sources, ones that might have some actuall scientific backing to them not just peoples opinions which fly around in here quite often! An understanding onf not only foot type but foot concerns and shoe properties relevant to needs. After this message i would go and do some research for yourself and stop listening to some of the rubbish people publish in here. Sure OPINIONS can be helpful and to pick up a shoe at $115 is awesome but how do you know that its the right one for you? Will you skimp on $$$ and sacrafice your body? I am not saying however that the most xpensive shoe is the best one and when you are saying the Trance is over priced then what is the Kayano with 1/3rd the technology the trance has?
Posted 22 November 2002 - 09:54 AM