G'Day,
Its that time of the year to get some new trainers again - and I'm having a dilemna:
I've always been an asics person, so I'm not sure whether to get a pair of DS trainers or 2090s.
Can someone whos tried them both out, or who knows something about them please provide some feedback about the relative pros/cons of each shoe.
I'm quite light (around 60kg) and use my joggers every day for long runs and would prefer a shoe thats durable and provides adequate cushioning. THe DS seem lighter, but do they provide adequate support?
Thanks in advance
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DS Trainers vs. 2090s
Started by squigee, Jun 19 2004 02:22 AM
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Posted 19 June 2004 - 05:37 AM
Squigee,
As a wearer of both of these shoes and being significantly heavier than you (around 92kg) I must say I like both of these shoes. However beware the latest DS trainers, as I didn't like these as much as their older bright orange model. I bought a pair of their blue version (can't recall the exact model) and didn't like these anywhere near as much as my bright fluro orange DS shoes. These were much less bulky and far lighter. I managed to get a pair of these recently from Pauls Warehouse and was very relieved to get a pair of my "old favourite" shoes. The newer versions (past the funky blue) also received a fair bit of criticism in their review in Runners World recently. So I personally wouldn't buy the most recent model over a pair of 2090's but if I could get hold of a pair of the orange fluro models (about 2 yrs old now) I would not hesitate in buying them.
I guess if these are not available it will be up to you. They (the latest model DS) will be lighter than than the 2090's but are a tad bulky compared to prior versions to my liking. I wouldn't be too concerned about any lack of support in the DS or 2090 shoes, they both have been fine for me.
Good luck with the shoes.
Fish
As a wearer of both of these shoes and being significantly heavier than you (around 92kg) I must say I like both of these shoes. However beware the latest DS trainers, as I didn't like these as much as their older bright orange model. I bought a pair of their blue version (can't recall the exact model) and didn't like these anywhere near as much as my bright fluro orange DS shoes. These were much less bulky and far lighter. I managed to get a pair of these recently from Pauls Warehouse and was very relieved to get a pair of my "old favourite" shoes. The newer versions (past the funky blue) also received a fair bit of criticism in their review in Runners World recently. So I personally wouldn't buy the most recent model over a pair of 2090's but if I could get hold of a pair of the orange fluro models (about 2 yrs old now) I would not hesitate in buying them.
I guess if these are not available it will be up to you. They (the latest model DS) will be lighter than than the 2090's but are a tad bulky compared to prior versions to my liking. I wouldn't be too concerned about any lack of support in the DS or 2090 shoes, they both have been fine for me.
Good luck with the shoes.
Fish
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Posted 19 June 2004 - 05:02 PM
squigee, I recommend you also look at the 1090s. I've been a 20xx person for a while, but could not get the 2090 in my size last time so tried the 1090, and was pleasantly surprised to find it was a better fit for me than the 2090 and it's been an excellent running shoe for the past 6 weeks - no blisters or any other problems in training (up to 30k), track, or 1/2 marathon. I had been through one pair of 2090s, but did not like them as much as the 2080s (not as roomy or comfy under the laces and tongue), so was glad to get something that seems to suit me better at a cheaper price.
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Posted 19 June 2004 - 06:35 PM
I think the current DS Trainer is not as duarble as the 2090. If durability is an important factor than you should try something else. I endorse what Pbig said. The 1090 is an excellent shoe durability wise and is slightly less bulky than the 2090. The DS trainer is closer to a racer in its current transformation.
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 12:45 PM
Hi Squigee
I have used the 2070/80/90's all my running life (so I haven't been running long) and they've been great. I started to look for something a bit closer to a racer but still would provide support as I'm quite heavy for a runner.
I recently purchased some DS-Trainers looking to use them for GCM. I used them for a couple of 10k races and they seemed fine but when I went longer I got sore feet....maybe I'm just too heavy <_<
Being just 60kg yourself I'd give them a go as I've heard lots of good feedback regarding DS-Trainers from other runners.
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I have used the 2070/80/90's all my running life (so I haven't been running long) and they've been great. I started to look for something a bit closer to a racer but still would provide support as I'm quite heavy for a runner.
I recently purchased some DS-Trainers looking to use them for GCM. I used them for a couple of 10k races and they seemed fine but when I went longer I got sore feet....maybe I'm just too heavy <_<
Being just 60kg yourself I'd give them a go as I've heard lots of good feedback regarding DS-Trainers from other runners.
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Posted 21 June 2004 - 01:29 AM
I have used the 20XX series since its inception, but in the last few years have dropped back to the 10XX series, with no ill effects. I weigh 63 kilos. Not sure what the extra 50 bucks buys you.
I also discovered today, as a result of this thread, that I use a pair of DS Trainers (I bought them on the salesman's recommendation, and didn't pay much attention to the model number). I use these as racing shoes, and have found them great. I wouldn't use them as a day to day training shoe, but I have very flat feet, and they don't go well with orthotics. I have done the occasional longer run in them (16-20km), and a few half marathons, and find them comfortable, but would question how much support they provide.
I also discovered today, as a result of this thread, that I use a pair of DS Trainers (I bought them on the salesman's recommendation, and didn't pay much attention to the model number). I use these as racing shoes, and have found them great. I wouldn't use them as a day to day training shoe, but I have very flat feet, and they don't go well with orthotics. I have done the occasional longer run in them (16-20km), and a few half marathons, and find them comfortable, but would question how much support they provide.
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Posted 21 June 2004 - 08:27 PM
Thanks all for your advice!
I found the DS trainers a bit too light - it seems they are indeed built more like a big people's marathon flat.
I used a pair of 2090s for my day-to-day long runs over the last year. But unfortuately there were none left on sale in my size! So I got a pair of Kayanos.
Now's the time to do your yearly shoe shopping, because the new stock is coming in,and all this years stock are on sale! Insport in Birkenhead and North Sydney are selling DS trainers for $120, 2090s for $120, 1090s for $100, and Kayanos for $150! Rebel have similar prices but stock is confined to larger sizes. Hope the helps.
Thanks again
squigee
I found the DS trainers a bit too light - it seems they are indeed built more like a big people's marathon flat.
I used a pair of 2090s for my day-to-day long runs over the last year. But unfortuately there were none left on sale in my size! So I got a pair of Kayanos.
Now's the time to do your yearly shoe shopping, because the new stock is coming in,and all this years stock are on sale! Insport in Birkenhead and North Sydney are selling DS trainers for $120, 2090s for $120, 1090s for $100, and Kayanos for $150! Rebel have similar prices but stock is confined to larger sizes. Hope the helps.
Thanks again
squigee
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Posted 21 June 2004 - 11:58 PM
Haven't tried the 2090's cause I've always opted for Kayano's but I do have a pair of DS trainers which I mainly use for shorter runs like my 10km races or speedwork because they are a lighter shoe. I don't think they would be good for everyday use because there will ear quicker than the 2090. Thinkning for 2090 for my next shoe as I hear its good for overpronators/flat-footers like myself. Will let u know the verdict.
Good luck with whateva u choose!
Good luck with whateva u choose!
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Posted 22 June 2004 - 02:43 PM
I am 65kgs and run approx 50-60 klms per week, for some years I have had the 2070s and found them to be a great shoe with no problems.
I recently purchased the 2090s and found that they hurt my left foot in the arch. The pain was so bad that I couldn't run and was present after I stopped using the shoe.
I exchanged the 2090s for another pair and the next pair hurt my foot in the same manner. Finally I upgraded to the Kayano and to date have had no problems.
I recently purchased the 2090s and found that they hurt my left foot in the arch. The pain was so bad that I couldn't run and was present after I stopped using the shoe.
I exchanged the 2090s for another pair and the next pair hurt my foot in the same manner. Finally I upgraded to the Kayano and to date have had no problems.
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Posted 23 June 2004 - 01:40 AM
Fish
My latest pair of Racers are the orange ones, but the ones before them were the blue ones. I'm not sure whether there has been another blue model out since the orange ones. If there hasnt the blue racers were the model before the orange ones.
I found the orange ones much better than the blue ones I had before.
Great shoe for me though!
Ian C :)
My latest pair of Racers are the orange ones, but the ones before them were the blue ones. I'm not sure whether there has been another blue model out since the orange ones. If there hasnt the blue racers were the model before the orange ones.
I found the orange ones much better than the blue ones I had before.
Great shoe for me though!
Ian C :)
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Posted 23 June 2004 - 03:40 PM
White and orange are the current model, probably be replaced again sometime soon!
I also had a problem with the arch of my left foot but with the Kayanos. Wonder what Asics have done to their shoes that would cause this? Never had that problem with any other shoe before.
Anyway Kayanos now abandoned and back with the DS Trainers. I have no real problem using these for any run (including rough bush runs) but then I'm on the light side.
I also had a problem with the arch of my left foot but with the Kayanos. Wonder what Asics have done to their shoes that would cause this? Never had that problem with any other shoe before.
Anyway Kayanos now abandoned and back with the DS Trainers. I have no real problem using these for any run (including rough bush runs) but then I'm on the light side.
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Posted 23 June 2004 - 03:47 PM
Hazbeen,
hopw long did you DS trainers last you compared to the Kayanos before they went dead?
I think the trainers are probably a great shoe for the longer road races, but I question their value for long run training...they are not much heavier than the DS racers!!
squigee
hopw long did you DS trainers last you compared to the Kayanos before they went dead?
I think the trainers are probably a great shoe for the longer road races, but I question their value for long run training...they are not much heavier than the DS racers!!
squigee
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Posted 23 June 2004 - 05:11 PM
squigee, I'd agree with you there, it's just I can generally get away with a lighter shoe. I bought the Kayanos for a bit more cushioning but found they gave me problems with my left arch. Otherwise I found them a really good shoe and would still be using them.
On the wear on the DS Trainers, they seem to be going ok at the moment. I think the tread will last until the shoe is "run out".
Definitely wouldn't recommend them to everybody for long run training, particularly on a hard surface. I usually do my long runs off road so the lack of cushioning is to some extent compensated by the softer surface.
On the wear on the DS Trainers, they seem to be going ok at the moment. I think the tread will last until the shoe is "run out".
Definitely wouldn't recommend them to everybody for long run training, particularly on a hard surface. I usually do my long runs off road so the lack of cushioning is to some extent compensated by the softer surface.
